ITT we discuss interesting serial killers

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by devine, Jan 24, 2013.

  1. devine

    devine hi, i am user devine
    Donor
    West Virginia MountaineersChicago BullsPhoenix SunsPittsburgh PenguinsManchester CityPittsburgh PiratesSan Diego PadresBarAndGrillCoors Light

    to me serial killers are some of the most interesting people in the world. just fascinating.

    albert fish is one that has a crazy story that not everyone knows about

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish

    cliffs: claims to have killed 100 children and eats them. back from the late 1800's/early 1900's.
     
    oldberg, lyrprophet, cdaysker and 2 others like this.
  2. a.tramp

    a.tramp Insubordinate and churlish
    Donor
    Kansas State WildcatsTexas Rangers

    Thread topic does not suprise me...
     
    BayouMafia, CUpigpen12 and wtx like this.
  3. devine

    devine hi, i am user devine
    Donor
    West Virginia MountaineersChicago BullsPhoenix SunsPittsburgh PenguinsManchester CityPittsburgh PiratesSan Diego PadresBarAndGrillCoors Light

  4. Iron Mickey

    Iron Mickey a guy who posted here like five years ago hates me
    Donor TMB OG
    Arkansas RazorbacksSouth Carolina GamecocksLos Angeles DodgersDetroit LionsChelseaReal Salt Lake

    interesting topic about which I know next to nothing

    :popcorn:
     
  5. devine

    devine hi, i am user devine
    Donor
    West Virginia MountaineersChicago BullsPhoenix SunsPittsburgh PenguinsManchester CityPittsburgh PiratesSan Diego PadresBarAndGrillCoors Light

    i did a 15 page paper on them last semester. still a long ways away from knowing a lot about them but some things i found interesting that kind of surprised me

    -the majority of them have been found to have less grey matter in their brain
    -they are usually only of average intelligence (i always thought they were generally smarter in school)
    -most of them have weird relationships in childhood with their mothers. some had promiscuous moms, some actually had sexual relations with their mothers. a lot of them didn't have father figures either
     
  6. Phil Connors

    Donor TMB OG
    Alabama Crimson Tide

    Saw thread title & immediately thought of Albert Fish.
     
    cain and devine like this.
  7. wes tegg

    wes tegg I'm a Guy's guy, guys.
    Staff Donor
    Atlanta BravesDenver BroncosChicago BlackhawksBirmingham LegionMississippi Rebels

    Devine, I ask this in the nicest way possible: do you have many real life friends?
     
    pearl, Prospector, Taffy and 5 others like this.
  8. devine

    devine hi, i am user devine
    Donor
    West Virginia MountaineersChicago BullsPhoenix SunsPittsburgh PenguinsManchester CityPittsburgh PiratesSan Diego PadresBarAndGrillCoors Light

    that's interesting. when i think of serial killers i always think of ted bundy or jeffrey dahmer.

    where did you learn about albert fish from? when i watch tv shows/documentaries about these things (which i watch a lot of) i never see anything on him. i imagine its probably a combination of him being from so long ago and also such a fucked up story that a lot of people would probably have no interest in watching.
     
    Phil Connors likes this.
  9. devine

    devine hi, i am user devine
    Donor
    West Virginia MountaineersChicago BullsPhoenix SunsPittsburgh PenguinsManchester CityPittsburgh PiratesSan Diego PadresBarAndGrillCoors Light

    yes.

    out of all the stupid shit i have posted on here, why do you ask this in this thread?
     
    keacali and Coastal like this.
  10. slogan119

    slogan119 Her?
    Donor TMB OG
    Florida State SeminolesChicago CubsReal Madrid

    Richard Kuklinski
    Green River Killer
    BTK (I mean, what brought him out of retirement?)

    We had a family conversation about this the other day, but we fear that there won't be many more "great/well-known" serial killer incidents moving forward. With the amount of witnesses, surveillance cameras (in and out of buildings), and cell phones to track people, it will be tough for someone to escape detection early on before they can amount a large body count.
     
    Merica likes this.
  11. miles

    miles All I know is my gut says, maybe
    Donor

    Letter he wrote to Budd's parents made me queasy.
     
  12. racer

    racer Yuma, where I work in software.
    Donor
    Iowa HawkeyesKansas City ChiefsLas Vegas Golden KnightsWatfordOlympicsFormula 1

    in before :cerealkiller:
     
    devine likes this.
  13. pianoman

    pianoman my drinks are free
    Donor TMB OG
    Michigan WolverinesChicago CubsDetroit Red Wings

    I find them fascinating, love watching documentaries and reading books on them.

    Hope this doesn't mean I will become one some day
     
    devine likes this.
  14. Iron Mickey

    Iron Mickey a guy who posted here like five years ago hates me
    Donor TMB OG
    Arkansas RazorbacksSouth Carolina GamecocksLos Angeles DodgersDetroit LionsChelseaReal Salt Lake

    Fear? Uh, good.
     
  15. devine

    devine hi, i am user devine
    Donor
    West Virginia MountaineersChicago BullsPhoenix SunsPittsburgh PenguinsManchester CityPittsburgh PiratesSan Diego PadresBarAndGrillCoors Light

    to touch on your second point, the other reason it is hard is because of the media now and days people love attention. serial killers get attention but they are not known. also, with dna as advanced as it is makes it even harder.

    isn't that how the green river killer was found? IIRC he got away with it for like 17 years before advances in dna technology led to him being caught. he is another extremely interesting one. He took his like 12 year-old son with him one time to kill one of his hookers. he would also have yard sales where he sold his victims items, and sometimes he would take his victims items (like jewlery) and leave them around at work for people to take.
     
  16. wes tegg

    wes tegg I'm a Guy's guy, guys.
    Staff Donor
    Atlanta BravesDenver BroncosChicago BlackhawksBirmingham LegionMississippi Rebels

    It was just the first thing that came to my mind when I saw your avatar and the statement that you were interested in serial killers to the point that you wrote a paper about them. Just making sure. :respek:
     
    devine likes this.
  17. slogan119

    slogan119 Her?
    Donor TMB OG
    Florida State SeminolesChicago CubsReal Madrid

    From an entertainment perspective. Overpopulation is a different discussion.
     
    goose, tylerdolphin, devine and 2 others like this.
  18. Cornelius Suttree

    Cornelius Suttree the smallest crumb can devour us
    Donor TMB OG
    Indiana HoosiersArizona DiamondbacksWyoming CowboysNorthern Arizona Lumberjacks

    they just don't make serial killers like they used to
     
    pearl, tjsblue, LookslikeUofI and 8 others like this.
  19. dcon79

    dcon79 Nailed it
    Donor TMB OG

    Challenge Accepted
     
    devine and Iron Mickey like this.
  20. a.tramp

    a.tramp Insubordinate and churlish
    Donor
    Kansas State WildcatsTexas Rangers

    [​IMG]
     
  21. slogan119

    slogan119 Her?
    Donor TMB OG
    Florida State SeminolesChicago CubsReal Madrid

    A hooker got away and was able to call for help. From there it took a while to track him down. DNA assured them it was him, but the police officer (who essentially went crazy trying to catch him) was sure it was him when he was caught.
     
    pearl likes this.
  22. Phil Connors

    Donor TMB OG
    Alabama Crimson Tide

    Read about him online while doing research about serial killers. I discovered Fish while learning about Bundy, Dahmer & others. Richard Ramirez & David Berkowitz are good ones too.
     
    Merica and devine like this.
  23. devine

    devine hi, i am user devine
    Donor
    West Virginia MountaineersChicago BullsPhoenix SunsPittsburgh PenguinsManchester CityPittsburgh PiratesSan Diego PadresBarAndGrillCoors Light

    lol gotcha. it is something that people joke about sometimes but don't worry im not a weirdo that people would actually be concerned about having a fascination with serial killers.

    i'm in psychology and i plan on going into forensics in grad school so my paper was based on the childhood development of serial killers fwiw.
     
    NothingIsOT likes this.
  24. Ball Gag Giorgio

    Ball Gag Giorgio do you like being chief of police?
    Donor

    devine: serial joke killer
     
    Iron Mickey, pearl, tjsblue and 14 others like this.
  25. Clown Baby

    Clown Baby Daddy’s #1 Candy Baby
    Donor

    You know what Ed Gein said about women?
     
  26. Iron Mickey

    Iron Mickey a guy who posted here like five years ago hates me
    Donor TMB OG
    Arkansas RazorbacksSouth Carolina GamecocksLos Angeles DodgersDetroit LionsChelseaReal Salt Lake

    they make lovely lampshades?
     
    pearl, juice, Joe_Pesci and 4 others like this.
  27. dcon79

    dcon79 Nailed it
    Donor TMB OG

    Learned about Fish while browsing serial killers on wikipedia one day at work. Pretty sure I've read about him on tmb too at one point. Tmb always has good serial killer threads
     
    devine likes this.
  28. devine

    devine hi, i am user devine
    Donor
    West Virginia MountaineersChicago BullsPhoenix SunsPittsburgh PenguinsManchester CityPittsburgh PiratesSan Diego PadresBarAndGrillCoors Light

    that's right.

    one of the most interesting shows i saw on a serial killer was on him where they showed his court hearing. families of all of the confirmed victims got up at his hearing and spoke. all of them got up and basically yelled at him, called him names, screamed, cried etc. he sat there stone-faced the entire time showing no signs of any emotion at all. the last person got up (a father of a victim) got up and said he doesn't hate him, he forgives him because God says that's what to do, etc. ridgeway then cried while listening to him.

    (just after the 2:00 minute mark)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmOUAdLgN1A
     
  29. devine

    devine hi, i am user devine
    Donor
    West Virginia MountaineersChicago BullsPhoenix SunsPittsburgh PenguinsManchester CityPittsburgh PiratesSan Diego PadresBarAndGrillCoors Light

    probably saw it in Emma 's thread. i had never heard of him until then. emma's thread was related to interesting wiki pages iirc but i had no idea what to search for to find it and thought serial killers would have enough interesting discussion to have a separate thread about.
     
    Emma likes this.
  30. dcon79

    dcon79 Nailed it
    Donor TMB OG

    Wasn't the cop Elliot Ness? Or am I confusing him with a different serial killer he was chasing?
     
  31. Phil Connors

    Donor TMB OG
    Alabama Crimson Tide

    The Zodiac Killer is pretty crazy...never caught him.
     
  32. dcon79

    dcon79 Nailed it
    Donor TMB OG

    I aint calling you out, dawg. We cool. I agree these threads are always good.

    I also remember princess kit's "rank top 5 serial killers" or something like that, which might have even been on the rb.
     
    Iron Mickey and devine like this.
  33. devine

    devine hi, i am user devine
    Donor
    West Virginia MountaineersChicago BullsPhoenix SunsPittsburgh PenguinsManchester CityPittsburgh PiratesSan Diego PadresBarAndGrillCoors Light

    don't they think he's dead?

    i don't know a lot about him. but hasn't only like one of his letters been decoded by some couple that was obsessed with trying to decipher it?
     
  34. Phil Connors

    Donor TMB OG
    Alabama Crimson Tide

    & don't forget Gacy. Kept his corpses in his crawl space under his house.
     
    devine likes this.
  35. Phil Connors

    Donor TMB OG
    Alabama Crimson Tide

    They were pretty sure they knew who it was and when that guy died, the killings stopped.
     
    Craig Pettis and devine like this.
  36. TLAU

    TLAU Dog Crew
    Donor
    Auburn TigersAtlanta BravesAustin FC

    99.9% certain there is already a thread on this that is multiple pages. Remember clicking on that Albert Fish wiki page in that thread

    edit: nvm emma's thread was wiki pages in general. carry on
     
  37. devine

    devine hi, i am user devine
    Donor
    West Virginia MountaineersChicago BullsPhoenix SunsPittsburgh PenguinsManchester CityPittsburgh PiratesSan Diego PadresBarAndGrillCoors Light

    yep. he was nuts. again i have trouble remembering small details sometimes but i think he was so confident he would never get caught that he even had an fbi agent or cop (they already had suspicions he was the killer) over to his house when they noticed how fucking terrible it smelled in his house.
     
  38. Phil Connors

    Donor TMB OG
    Alabama Crimson Tide

    Something like that. He killed young men after he had buttsex with them.
     
    CUtigers likes this.
  39. Merica

    Merica Devine pls stop pointing out my demise. :(
    Donor
    Auburn TigersAtlanta BravesPittsburgh Steelers

    Scariest of all time. A fucking serial killer who spends his days dressed as a clown? :yaoface:
     
    Futureman, FAULK and CUtigers like this.
  40. Duval

    Duval On a gravy train with biscuit wheels
    Donor TMB OG

    Redav likes this.
  41. Bo Pelinis

    Donor TMB OG
    Nebraska CornhuskersKansas City RoyalsKansas City ChiefsBig 8 Conference

    Used to watch Cold Case Files (such a good fucking show) all the time in grad school because I didn't have cable and it was always on broadcast channels. Usually late at night while studying :ohnoes:. If you know the format of the show they would go over crimes and then discuss how the person was caught years later due to forensic evidence.

    Well one day I was watching one about this prolific serial rapist/murder and it just ends with him never being caught at all (not the zodiac either, someone else). He'd raped/killed like 60/70 people and left messages on their answering machines after to scare them. They played one on the show and it was sadistic as fuck.

    Me = [​IMG]
     
  42. slogan119

    slogan119 Her?
    Donor TMB OG
    Florida State SeminolesChicago CubsReal Madrid

    No, Ness caught Al Capone.

    Fun fact: the street where his house was had to be renamed in Chicago so that it wouldn't attract much attention. It was also torn down and a new structure built because no one would buy it (for good reason).
     
    devine and Phil Connors like this.
  43. inurfason

    inurfason Well-Known Member
    Donor

    Are you ready to see a bunch of disgusting stuff and the smell of dead bodies? Also which came first your love of Dexter or desire to get into forensics?
     
    devine likes this.
  44. Merica

    Merica Devine pls stop pointing out my demise. :(
    Donor
    Auburn TigersAtlanta BravesPittsburgh Steelers

    Can you imagine occupying that new structure? Jesus I would be shitting myself any time I was alone for more than five minutes. :ohshit:
     
    LookslikeUofI and devine like this.
  45. dcon79

    dcon79 Nailed it
    Donor TMB OG

    BuckeyeRiot and Merica like this.
  46. slogan119

    slogan119 Her?
    Donor TMB OG
    Florida State SeminolesChicago CubsReal Madrid

    Saw something like that where the cops knew the guy was guilty, but couldn't find the body. Because they were unable to tie records together electronically, they didn't know he owned a trailer park property in AZ (was from CA). He took the chick and her car to AZ, rented a backhoe, and buried the car and the girl's body behind the trailer.

    Cops found out about the trailer by accident (I think it was while interviewing a neighbor). Checked it out, found out from another neighbor that he had rented the backhoe under the auspices of gas or electric repair, then used sonar to find something was buried.

    He fucking buried a goddamn car. Amazing.
     
    pearl, NothingIsOT, CUtigers and 2 others like this.
  47. devine

    devine hi, i am user devine
    Donor
    West Virginia MountaineersChicago BullsPhoenix SunsPittsburgh PenguinsManchester CityPittsburgh PiratesSan Diego PadresBarAndGrillCoors Light

    never would have guessed this guy would be a murderer. [​IMG]

    one time while he was at dinner with cops that were surveillancing him, he said something like "you know clowns can get away with murder."
     
    Merica likes this.
  48. slogan119

    slogan119 Her?
    Donor TMB OG
    Florida State SeminolesChicago CubsReal Madrid

    I don't have time to read it, but for something called the "Cleveland Torso Murderer" I will make time.
     
    dcon79 likes this.