Let’s just say that a person wanted to get into buying Bordeaux futures. Where would be the best place to start.
I’ve bought so much Cain five this year their main guy called me a couple days before they made the 2016 available to go over it I got a 3 liter 2006 from them on the way soon :)
That’s a nice birthday spread. Haven’t had anything from Cain in a while but your post might motivate me. Had several bottles of the Cain Concept blend many years ago and just loved it. Got away from cabs for a bit.
Find a reputable store. I once got burned by a store going under (due to fraud). Do you know what you like within BDX?
That's a good chard. Had it many times. Haven't been active in this thread because I feel guilty drinking good wine lately. Having said that we opened a Napa salus cab last night with filets. I'm getting the guillotine right?
Consensus second favorite after the paul hobbs brckstoffer I decanted the opus for 90 minutes. Really good
Happy birthday Gallant Knight! Hell of a fucking lineup. Rusty Shackleford This was the first year I got a futures/pre-arrival offer from K&L that I jumped on. I know that I find a ton of joy in really good, well respected Chateaux in the likes of Moulis and Haut-Medoc, so I kinda loaded up there. Also grabbed a very small and likely too small order of Pontet-Canet '19s that will arrive in '21 or so. They were $80 and for what they trade for at current release, it was a no brainer for me.
Yes and no. I have been doing a fairly random sampling from different price points and regions. I am far from educated but tend to lean towards the cab heavy blends. Ideally I would like to buy a case from each of my kids birth years 17’ and 19’ to hold on to and drink over the years. I know you get some variation from vintages but I would like to narrow it down to a couple of producers to try some older vintages.
Guessing you're down south, but maybe worth checking if K&L in California or Morrell in NY can ship down to you? I don't know what the availability is like for you there. All the '19 are still EP/Futures but a lot of '17s are en route but Pre-Arrival, so plenty of deals to be had. https://www.klwines.com/Products?&f...rderBy=60 asc,search.score() desc&searchText=
Anyone recommend more Burgundy along the lines of Les Deux Terres? My favorite Pinot so far. So funky.
Been saving that one for a few years. Brought it to a nice restaurant out here on Shelter Island. Super tropical and round, still some good acidity left in it. Not as long of a finish as I expected but paired absurdly well with the scallop and halibut dishes we had at dinner.
Just grabbed my second case of de Negoce, No. 42 this time. I've got that and No. 1, so despite the fact that I don't drink much Cab at home, I'll at least be covered in that department for when I feel like switching things up.
That has been my general opinion on Pegau. Not bad by any means but the reputation exceeds my perception of the quality. Having said that, I think I’ve drank 2 and have 5 more so I’m hoping my opinion changes.
Their 2015s are lights out but in general, my go-to at similar or better prices are Mont Olivet and Brusquieres.
So i started getting into wine like 6 months ago. i live in Europe so i mainly fuck around with French wine, some italian and German too. Had some great bottles, but im still pretty new in the game. I wanna try some American stuff. Does anyone have some recs for something im likely to find over here?
It’d probably be better if you found a website of a local wine shop and posted it asking for recs on their in stock American wines.
Gouges young, brave man. Those wines are brilliant with bottle age. Also, where in Europe are you based?
Boys, its that time of the year: The Last Bottle Wines Marathon is back! I believe it starts Thursday 12pm EST. Throwing out the shameless plug for my referral code: https://www.lastbottlewines.com/invite/0ef87805e60e7b636626.html Be a hero, buy some bottles of wine. These are dark dark times we're living in. I'm sure I'll post some of my bounties. Cheers!
Signed up for a bunch of wine mailing lists last night. Maybe in 5-10 years when i get on them, i will be able to afford them
Have you had any of the wines before, or comparable ones in style? I ask only because I signed up for a bunch of mailing lists a while back and then, as my career progressed, I realized that I didn't even like the style of wines I had signed up for. All this is irrelevant if you're flipping the wines, though.
Most of them i have not had but figured might as well join the list. If in 5 years i have had it or dont like the style at that time i can always pass on it.
I think I’ve been waiting on SQN and Schrader for 6-7 years. You can get on to Andremily (former SQN winemaker using former SQN vineyard contracts that SQN dropped when thei estate vineyards came online) in 2 or less years. It isn’t really my preferred style but I did buy a 3-pack when I got my first offer this summer. I signed up for Bryant about the same time and after about 3 years I was offered a 3-pack for $1200. I passed and bought a single bottle of 2014 Haut Brion, 2014 Lafite and 3 2014 Figeacs and saved more than $200. I do really want to try Bryant but committing to 3 bottles at that price seemed steep.
Gallant Knight The New Boich Family Cellars released dropped today for their club members including the 2018 Georges III and 2017 To Kalon.
What are everyone's favorite lists that they're on? A few for me: Ceritas: Don't love that you have to buy your full allocation for each SKU to get any, but this is the pinnacle of New World Chardonnay for me, so I do it. Sandlands: I always put together at least a mixed six-pack as the wines are affordable as all get out. Turley: Really the only Zin that I consistently drink anymore but since I'm in the process of falling back in love with the grape, there are none better IMO. The Mascot: I don't know why I signed up for this honestly, but I've purchased two years in a row 2 btls each. Will probably stop with '16 as the '17 vintage in Napa sucks. Arnot-Roberts: Largely still value driven, outside of Pinot Noir. Ribolla and Watson Ranch Chardonnay are my favorites. Massican: More widely available, but god damn these wines are good.
Just on SQN myself. 2nd year and 4th release of getting an allocation. Big fan of big Cabs, but also like Grenache, Syrah and Zin. ETA clarify that I was on the waiting list for 9-10 years. 2nd year of getting an allocation.
I’m on: Kongsgaard- yet to have an allocation of The Judge, but this was an impulse splurge after having the 2013 The Judge on my honeymoon. (Maybe the best wine I’ve ever had). Really enjoy the “normal” Chardonnay and Syrah. I also thought the interview On the “I’ll drink to that” podcast was fascinating. Arnot-Roberts- found them after reading he used to work at Kongsgaard. Got an immediate allocation. As mentioned above, great value. I also really enjoy the Syrah, Gamay, and Trousseau. Kosta Browne- probably not the best QPR, but I and my wife enjoy them. somewhat related: did anyone see the Recent Hundred Acre letter?
I've tried scale back my lists and club memberships recently primarily to add more variety to my cellar (which started out very Pinot Noir and Syrah focused). Specifically, I want to incorporate more Loire and Italian reds into my cellar. That said, here are the lists I'm on from which I purchase annually (always have to shout out to Rabid for recommending a few of them to me): Goodfellow - this has quickly become my favorite Pinot Noir producer in Oregon. Though the wines can be somewhat austere in their youth, I love the way they start to develop with some bottle age. Also a terrific QPR in comparison to some of the heavy hitters in the area. Sandlands - You are spot on here, this one is a no brainer. I enjoy the Trousseau and Carignan especially, I've always found these wines to be interesting and made in a style that I enjoy. Have not tried their syrah, zinfandel, or red blend, but I will likely get around to it at some point. Don't love the whites. Patricia Green - the first club I joined. Love the variety of Pinot Noir, they have so many bottlings. Every time I think about dropping, I'll open one that changes my mind. Just last week I opened a 2015 Medici vineyard that I was not expecting to love...thought it might be in a dead phase, not my favorite vintage, not my favorite ava, but I'll be goddamned if it wasn't the most compelling bottle of Pinot I've had this year. I think the price has maybe crept up a bit too but I just can't pull myself away. Gramercy - like the above, this has been discussed a lot in this thread. I don't have much further to add other than their club is perhaps the best designed around. Just enough variety and unique wines to round out their lineup of excellent syrah that lives up to the hype. Savage Grace - this is my newest club. I've been a fan of their cab franc for some time, but they have the reputation for making very unique and interesting wines and I'm excited to dive further into their lineup. I just received a shipment of their côt/malbec pet Nat that I can't wait to open. Sleight of Hand - I am in their rocks club. I dropped Rotie and Proper when I joined. If you enjoy wines from the rocks, this club gets you 2x3 different bottlings in one easy shipment per year at quite attractive pricing. Wines are great if you're into that sorta thing. Other pinot - I usually pick up a few bottles of Cristom Jessie vineyard at retail every year and depending on vintage will also buy from Vincent (another great qpr), Kelley Fox, and others. Full Pull has been mentioned a lot here before but that's also really great to be on - I get a case or three a year through them I would not otherwise have access to (la rata, Force Majeure, saviah the funk, Reynvaan, etc). Their house label, block wines, also makes an affordable rocks syrah I've enjoyed. Kerloo and Latta are two others i really like and have been off and on lists, bought through Full Pull, etc.