Big fan of Chip's E3. Might as well pencil ND into the 16 team most years. Finally, the auto bye we deserve for being the GOAT cfb program.
You are going to really regret this post when Clemson finishes adding the laser tag arena and slide to their football facilities.
because you're shopping college football. if fox loses out on the sec, they can do deals with the pac and big 12. if you lose out on the power 5 as a single entity, your network is effectively out of the college football game completely.
Another reason to hate this, there is nothing better than coming home from a game cracking a beer and watching some random cfb game on some channel in the 400's. I love the variety we are offered the way it is now.
Even the NFL sells their games across multiple networks. Fox has NFC, CBS has AFC, CBS partners with NFL net for Thursday games, NBC has game of the week and ESPN has Monday night.
nah, i'd be all for it. the conference money competition isn't a good thing for college football. from a fans perspective, these astronomical increases in tv revenue haven't lowered ticket costs or concessions costs. traditional rivalries have gone away because of realignment. and where has the money gone? into coaches' salaries and fancy new facilities designed to lure recruits. whats the real benefit there? the kids are gonna play football anyway and the coaches are coach football anyway.
yeah, it'd end up getting shopped out to multiple networks, but the power would still rest entirely with the power5 group because they would own the entire supply. if you want college football on your network you'd pay their price or be shit out of luck because you wouldn't have another conference to go to.
it wouldn't. but with everyone in the same pool, teams would quit looking to jump conferences for a better deal and we could just maybe have some moves in the opposite direction where geography, rivalries, and fit are more important than chasing dollars.
And what is the real benefit in homogenizing the product from an economic standpoint? Fan's will actually see increased ticket prices in my opinion (less "top tier" product). Fans will be blocked out from or forced to pay additional capital to follow their team if they are out of market (like the NFL). Sure every school would receive equal revenue from tv rights, but what assures it is distributed evenly on each campus? Do we institute an "athletic spending" cap to keep the field level? What happens when long time cross country rivalries are replaced by "regional rivals" who may have no history whatsoever? CFB will always have haves and have nots. Sacrifices have been made in the way of progress, but at least in this climate schools are able to make decisions that they feel benefit them on and off the field. In a Power5 scenario schools would be shoehorned into "divisions" which may or may not behoove them. Current conferences are built not just athletics, but academic and cultural similarities as well. Granted as an ND fan I take extreme interest in this, much of ND's lore has been built on travel, playing outside the region, forging rivalries from coast to coast. So, a system like this would harm ND astronomically, I have no interest in playing Kentucky every year because they are regional simply so Texas and A&M are assured their game. Spoiler I apologize, typing this in between calls at work so if it meanders and seems off point, my b
I'm not talking about the whole plan, just the collective tv deal. The point of doing so would be to stabilize the conferences, and maybe even rejigger them to the way the were when conferences were built on all of those non-athletics things you talk about instead of chasing tv markets and bigger dollars for the conference tv deal. If you want to talk about shoehorning teams, thats what has happened already. How is west virginia a "fit" in the big 12? How is rutgers a "fit" in the Big10? Is anyone excited about the new civil conflict between UCF and UCONN? Anyone miss seeing Nebraska and OU play? As far as harming ND goes, hasn't the current state of affairs already done that? You had to agree to 5 games a year to find a landing spot for your non-football sports, so the current climate has forced you to exchange Michigan on the schedule for Wake Forrest. I'm not sure what you mean by "top tier" product. College football is already televised regionally. Sure, some games are national games, but most of the noon and afternoon espn/abc games are regional. And an athletic spending cap is a ridiculous idea. Again, from my perspective, the entire point of a national deal would be to have conferences that were once again built on "academic and cultural similarities"
As to your overall point I can see that, but just to clarify things from and ND perspective. The current system has caused some changes but ND was in no way forced into the ACC deal, non football sports could have stayed in the Big East or moved to the AAC without the football deal. The football deal was made as a protection in case a scenario like the "Power5" occurs, ND now has safe haven in what should be a standing conference and can easily assimilate into full time participant if needed to keep access to whatever post season may occur. And this is where it gets a little odd. Everyone believes that ND and Michigan have played yearly since the dinosaurs roamed, that's not true. The true historical rivals regionally for ND are MSU and Purdue as nearly double the number of games have been played in those series. It seems high and mighty to say but ND views Michigan as an on again off again dance partner. In reality the protected series are with USC, Navy, and now Stanford ("Academic peer"). Michigan was traded out for Texas this year and Georgia to come. Wake actually replaces someone more akin to Purdue or Army who in the past would have been a yearly foe. The ACC deal is not something I am in love with, but I understand it's merit and honestly don't see much loss on ND's behalf because of it.
I realize that the perception of the historical importance of ND & Michigan is overstated, just going to the larger point of being forced by the deal into games like Wake Forrest that you never would have done in the past. Whether they replace Michigan or a longer standing rival like Purdue, the general point that the current climate has disrupted more traditional games even for a Notre Dame remains. Even though its cool that Clemson and Notre Dame will be playing, I'd gladly trade that for Oklahoma and Nebraska, the backyard brawl, Texas/A&M, hell, even Kansas and Mizzou coming back as yearly rivalries.
We literally taught that diploma mill you follow how to play. Don't undersell the extent of the rivalry just because we weren't playing every year.
It really is so nice having live football until damn near 2 o'clock in the morning. I feel like I catch more Pac-12 games than any other conference besides the SEC for that reason.
We just need an FCS conference to start a 9 AM game, so we can watch that in the mornings rather than the pregame shows.
I in no way deny that. I live in Michigan, I love Notre Dame, I understand the dynamic there. I also understand that after the initial thrust before 1900 neither school has done the other any favors. Navy kept ND alive during wwii by moving training there. MSU and ND have a similar history to our rivalry. USC and ND made each other "national" powers. I would love to play Michigan every year, I adore the day after when all the ugly flags get put in storage for another year if ND wins. That said, I get why that series dissolved before others in the name of progress.
i got notified that i was quoted, but it was actually FactsRule that got quoted. Am I FactsRule? Have I been tmb-ceptioned?
Sucks, don't it? I was watching GoldenEye last night and told my wife "I can't believe this movie is 21 years old, F me".
Brb going to browse through my prolific Penny Hardaway card collection. Was sure it was gonna make me a gazillionaire by now.
We were a founding member of the Southern Conference Which later broke off into the ACC Left ACC in 1971 because of beefs with UNC/Duke/Tobacco Road (Supposedly Clemson was originally coming with us but backed out last second) Went independent 20 years (Metro for basketball) Joined SEC in 1992 Cliffs: South Carolina likes to secede from things HTH
I thought the premise of the Metro Conference was all the schools were in bigger cities. How did Hattiesburg and Blacksburg get on that list