Season 6 Book Readers Thread...It is Known (spoiler heavy)

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  1. jmuparrothead

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    Edd can't be Lord Commander just because Jon gave him a cloak, right? Wouldn't they have to do another vote (not that it would necessarily actually be shown in the show).
     
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  2. 34

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    Correct
     
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  3. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Just rewatched and yeah, Dayne with 3 swords was badass. It makes sense to me. He's that good that he doesn't need a shield and can just wreck shit with one in each hand twirling them the whole time.
     
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  4. Cherno Alpha

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    I like this spin http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/game-thrones-teases-book-readers-enough-one-day-236443

     
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  5. DirtBall

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    I was for sure Howland was going to do some crazy cannogman stuff instead of the stab through the neck. Figured he'd nail Dayne with some poisoned darts or something that would slow him enough for Ned to stand his ground.
     
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  6. BP

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    For us book readers it sucks when they change some of the iconic dialogues but its mainly for the showfags. These small details don't really figure into anything and don't mean shit to the majority of show watchers.

    Good to see the Queen of Thorns back.

    Sidenote: as much as I want the northern conspiracy to be true, I can't see Osha and Rickon agreeing to be captives of Ramsey given his reputation, unless his reputation really isn't that well known. And I don't think the Umbers would willingly turn over the last known male Stark heir no matter what the plan. :twocents:

    Edit: and god damn Tyrion and Dany's parts are boring AF at the moment.
     
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  7. Sir Phobos

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    I thought so too but slow it down to half speed and he clearly pulls it from the ground. it's just such a fast cut and he's already in the motion when they make the cut that your eyes trick you.

    made sense in context of what show watchers know. when we first met Meera and Jojen she snuck up and put a knife to Osha for threatening Jojen so Howland's actions made perfect sense.
     
  8. jkun

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    Didn't mind the 2 swords, made sense in context of a show.

    But man that scene with bored Tyrion talking about drinking games was the dumbest shit ever like wtf
     
  9. CF3234

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    For the people complaining about tyrion, what do you want them to do? His story is stuck in neutral because of GRRM, so he can't really do any strategizing and it just wouldn't make sense for him to fall back into banging whores on the regular, so the only option is to give him a scene where they try to make something out of nothing or just cut him out entirely (which is never happening because of how popular the character is)
     
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  10. zeberdee

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    I get what you're saying, but it's bullshit blaming GRRM at this point. the show writers have clearly shown a willingness to change character arcs. there's no reason they can't do something with Tyrion.
     
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  11. Nelson

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    Looks like next week some pressure comes his way
     
  12. CF3234

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    But do what? He can't solve the problems in mereen while Danny is still in the dothraki nunnery because then what? Tyrion has been painted into a corner. There's nothing he could realistically do unless the show writers decide to split him from Danny.

    I mean I guess his arc this season could be finding a way to get passage to westeros via some cunning negotiations with the iron bank or something.
     
  13. Nelson

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    I think Dany gets to westeros, or begins traveling, this season.
     
  14. TheGrifter

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    So the fact they completely downplayed Dawn pretty much tells us it isn't Lightbringer, right?
     
  15. Space

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    I don't know if I'm getting too sci fi, but I really didn't see it as Bran can just change the past and more as that he already has changed the past. Like what he is doing, he's already done, eternal recurrence type of thing. Maybe? Maybe not? It's 2 AM
     
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  16. Space

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    And to whoever asked-- Bran definitely "whispers" to a younger Ned in the books. It's when Ned is praying to a weirwood about catelyn accepting jon and hoping jon & robb grow up to be close.
     
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  17. Gtr

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    Definitely possible imo. GRRM writes science fiction too.
     
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  18. GBG_24

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    I think it could be something as simple as having Tyrion involved in the interrogating of the whore that Varys got his info from, instead of sitting in the other room bored af.
     
  19. GBG_24

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    Although, Varys did well on his own in that scene.
     
  20. Gtr

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    Everybody loves Tyrion, so they invent scenes for him just to be on every week? Instead of inserting him in events where he wasn't before?
     
  21. TheGrifter

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    My cousin absolutely loves Stannis. Owns the "Stannis is the Mannis"
    Tshirt and everything. There are few things that bring me more joy than giving him shit about it.
     
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  22. LT8

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    Sorry for the length..

    ... a thousand eyes, a hundred skins, wisdom deep as the roots of ancient trees. a greenseer....


    Lord Eddard Stark sat upon a rock beside the deep black pool in the godswood, the pale roots of the heart tree twisting around him like an old man's gnarled arms. The greatsword Ice lay across Lord Eddard`s lap, and he was cleaning the blade with an oilcloth.

    "Winterfell", Bran whispered.

    His father looked up. "Who`s there?" he asked, turning...

    ... and Bran, frightened pulled away. His father and the black pool and the godswood faded...


    "Winterfell. I was back in Winterfell. I saw my father. He`s not dead. He`s not, I saw him, he`s back at Winterfell, he`s still alive." "No", said Leaf. "He is gone, boy. Do not seek to call him back from death".

    ...

    "But", said Bran, "he heard me."

    "He heard a whisper on the wind, a rustling amongst the leaves. You cannot speak to him, try as you might. I know. I have my own ghosts, Bran. A brother that I loved, a brother that I hated, a woman I desired. Through the trees, I see them still, but no word of mine has ever reached them. The past remains the past. We can learn from it, but we cannot change it."

    ...

    "The singers carved eyes into their heart trees to awaken them, and those are the first eyes a now greenseer learns to use.. but in time you will see well beyond the trees themselves."
    ...

    ... but then somehow he was back at Winterfell again, in the godswood looking down upon his father. Lord Eddard seemed much younger this time. His hair was brown, with no hint of grey in it, his head bowed. "... let them grow up close as brothers, with only love between them," he prayed, "and let my lady wife find it in her heart to forgive..." "Father." Bran`s voice was a whisper in the wind, a rustle in the leaves. "Father, it"s me. It`s Bran. Brandon." Eddard Stark lifted his head and looked long at the wirwood, frowning, but he did not speak. He cannot see me, Bran realized despairing.

    ...

    Eddard Stark resumed his prayer. Bran felt his eyes fill up with tears. But were they his own tears, or the weirwoods? If I cry, will the tree begin to weep?


    Now two children danced across the godswood, hooting at one another as they dueled with broken branches. The girl was the older and taller of the two. Arya! Bran thought eagerly, as he watched her leap up onto a rock and cut at the boy. But that couldn`t be right. If the girl was Arya, the boy was Bran himself, and he had never worn his hair so long. And Arya never beat me playing sowrds, the way that girl is beating him. She slashed the booy across his thigh, so hard that his leg went out from under him and he fell into the pool and began to splash and shout. "You be quiet, stupid," the girl said, tossing her own branch aside. "It"s just water. Do you want Old Nan to hear and run tell Father?"


    but a woman heavy with child emerged naked and dripping from the black pook, knelt before the tree and begged the old gods for a son who would avenge her. Then there came a brown-haired girl slender as a spear who stood on the tips of her toes to kiss the lips of a young knight as tall as Hodor. A dark - eyed youth, pale and fierce, sliced three branches of the weirwood and shaped them into arrows. The tree itself was shrinking, growing smaller with each vision, whilst the lesser trees dwindled into saplings and vanish in their turn. And now the lords Bran glimpsed were tall and hard, stern men in fur and chain mail. Some wore faces he remembered from the statues in the crypts, but they were gone before he could put a name to time.

    Then, as he watched, a bearded man forced a captive down onto his knees before the heart tree. A white - haired woman stepped toward them through a drift of dark red leaves, a bronze sickle in her hand. "No", said Bran, "no, don`t", but they could not hear him, no more than his father had. The woman grabbed the captive by the hair, hooked the sickle round his throat, and slashed. And through the mist of centuries the broken boy could only watch as the man`s feet drummed against the earth... but as his life flowed out of him in a red tide, Brandon Stark could taste the blood.
     
  23. jayhawkmpa

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    I have an idea. Maybe he could be figuring out how to defend against a siege, an insurgency, and a plague like this bad ass knight I heard about one time in some other story.
     
  24. Fuzzy Zoeller

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    Has anybody bitched about ToJ being 6 vs. 2 instead of 7 vs. 3? Because if not I would like to bitch about that.
     
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  25. LeonardWashington

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    I was wondering this exact same thing. Can you describe the system? The way the show portrays it, it's completely unrealistic. As a show-watcher, I was wondering how Varys got so much information from some street urchins who never interact with nobility and somehow he is able to discover information from conversations which, as it's depicted on the show anyway, almost always happen in private far away from the "peasants". I knew there had to be far more to it
     
  26. DirtBall

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    I believe we've bitched about every possible aspect of it.
     
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  27. GuyOnA_Buffalo

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    What are your thoughts on the number of swords used?
     
  28. Fuzzy Zoeller

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    I have no thoughts on that issue, I was too butthurt about it being 6 vs. 2.
     
  29. GBG_24

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    There are secret passage ways in the Red Keep (like the ones Tyrion used to confront/kill Tywin and Shay). The little kids hang out basically sitting in the walls throughout the keep listening for anything important to pass along to Varys.
     
  30. GuyOnA_Buffalo

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    I heard a couple of them called in sick that day; The show must go on (at least one of them didn't take his sword home).
     
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  31. three stacks

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    thinking out loud here: how could lord umber be part of a great northern conspiracy and just give up rickon stark to a known psychopath who will undoubtedly kill him?
     
  32. OHW

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    The show half assess stuff all the time.
     
  33. three stacks

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  34. Celemo

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    I'm curious which way The Vale is gonna roll
     
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  35. OHW

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    Especially with Ramsay
     
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  36. MORBO!

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    "But Lord Umber...Ramsay is a fucking psychopath who will probably kill me before your little ploy will work."

    "Naaaahhhhhh. Relax, Rickon. I'm sure this is going to work out just fine. Oh, by the way, I need to behead your fucking direwolf. That okay?"
     
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  37. theregionsitter

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    Pretty sure The Vale is gonna come down on the side of the Starks
     
  38. GuyOnA_Buffalo

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    Read a theory that Rickon would know the location of sansas dead direwolf and they used its head. Which it would still be intact considering it was frozen solid and would explain the small size (much younger when it was killed). Obviously very far fetched, but... Yeah, really grasping at straws here.
     
  39. Codename Duchess

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    I'm cool with grasping at any straw that keeps Shaggydog alive.
     
  40. Fargin'

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    Lady was white(ish) on the show and also wasn't full grown when Ned did the deed. Shaggy would've been much bigger.
     
  41. lastsonofkrypton

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    I've gone from hope to acceptance; they really made the umbers betray the last stark.
     
  42. three stacks

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    this is moronic at best
     
  43. NinjaRXA

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    There was a interview with Rickon's actor where he said it was Shaggydog. Don't know how well I trust it because it's not like he's gonna spoil the reveal before its aired and Kit fed everyone lies last year.
     
  44. coffee

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    I don't think Ramsey is a "known psychopath."
     
  45. Keef

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    Maybe, he did get called for for murdering his dad. And then when Ramsey gave him the "poison" story, the response was essentially "yeah, ok"
     
  46. Sir Phobos

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    Episode names for the next month. put your hype brakes on for a week, folks.

    604 - Book of the Stranger
    605 - The Door*
    606 - Blood of my Blood
    607 - The Broken Man

    Thoughts are that next week is a non-Bran week, 605 will give us either Night's King or ToJ part 2. Bran's actor more or less confirmed that Bran learns something very important in 605. Next week is probably Stark family reunion.

    Oh and 607 is Meribald and probably Gravedigger so Cleganebowl get fucking hype.
     
  47. NCHusker

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    "But Littlefinger, you just went through all this trouble to free me from the Lannisters. Why would you leave me with a psychopath who will undoubtedly rape me several times a day?"
     
  48. Space

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    Maybe I'm being retarded... Are we not talking about the same thing??
     
  49. OTM

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    Blood of my blood is a reference to a Kahl's bloodriders. Maybe Dany gets a true Khalasar or something.
     
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  50. Sir Phobos

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    guessing Jorah fights for her freedoma and succumbs from his wounds or in some way dies