I'm fine with it on a one year deal. I'm just laughing that a dude who is as close to Medicare as he is the legal drinking age can score such a big professional contract.
I'm more than happy committing $20 mil a year to those two guys because when they retire/die, that money is still part of our payroll and can be spent on locking up young guys or signing younger FAs.
Ender Markakis Bautista Freddie Kemp Flowers Dansby Jace/Ozzie/Demeritte JT Bartolo Folty Dickey Wisler? With our pen the might be a playoff team.
Why? What we do the next two years really doesn't matter as long as we don't block prospects. What's the down side?
Chris Sale lhp 5 years/$32.5M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 options 5 years/$32.5M (2013-17), plus 2018-19 club options signed extension with Chicago White Sox 3/7/13 replaced 1 year/$0.6M deal signed 2/22/13 13:$0.85M, 14:$3.5M, 15:$6M, 16:$9.15M, 17:$12M, 18:$12.5M club option ($1M buyout), 19:$13.5M club option ($1M buyout) 2019 option increases 1) by $2.5M to $16M with a Cy Young in 2013-18 or 2) by $1.5M to $15M with a second- or third-place finish in Cy Young vote in 2013-18 award bonuses, including $15,000 for All-Star selection
Hope we are pulling the bait and switch here.. Go hard for Sale and then reluctantly agree to take Quintana and his extra year of control for a lesser package.
Sale excites me at first glance but the more I think about cost, the more hesitant I am. Coppy has been a trade maestro so I doubt he overpays (unless there is strong pressure from above to compete this year at all costs, which I really hope is not the case).
In a deal for a front of the rotation starter, who is really untouchable? Dansby Ozzie?? Id be OK with moving any or the pitching prospects. Would hope you don't trade more than a couple from the top group.
Talking Chopn mentioned taking back Shield's deal to lower the prospect cost. That would have been perfect prior to the Dickey signing. He only has two years left on his deal.
This is where you can really start to judge Coppy. Trading veterans is a lot easier than trading prospects and so far he hasn't had to trade any prospects that could come back to haunt him.
Supposedly they may want quantity over quality.. Give them a fuck ton of our second and third tier guys.
Saw that Gondee retweet. The deals that guy was throwing out are more than fine with me: Just some dude throwing stuff out. But if this is what we're looking at, I'm good with it.
Last year of arb. He made $7.5m last year. So he's looking at another pretty good pay increase this year.
If that's really what the Sox are looking for, great. But I have a hard time believing they give up Sale for a bunch of guys who round out a 25-man. This is where I think we move a couple of those "3rd starter" guys we talked about a few pages back. If we can really make Folty the centerpiece of a deal, that's an enormous win.
Getting an ace on essentially a 3 year, $36 million dollar contract will take a fortune. If we do get him, first thing I do is try to get him to restructure where he gets paid more those three years in exchange for more team control. Would be trade 3/36 for 5/75? It's pretty clear that if this rebuild is going to work, we need an ace. And I'm not sure we can just sit back and hope one of those kids in A ball becomes one.
I agree, it is interesting to see all this come out after Coppys comments just last week about how you don't acquire Aces, you grow them.
A sale deal would definitely hurt. I'm thinking at least a couple of the big time pitching prospects (Newcombe, Allard, Touki, Anderson, Soroka) and a couple of the next tier guys (Ellis, Gant, Simms, Sanchez whoever else) and probably more. Acuna, Demerrite, Dpete, We are going to have to trade a fuck ton for sale. Some of these guys we are super high on will have to move.
Sale's value is probably down a little bit due to the highly publicized dust ups with management and the feeling the "have to trade him" but he's still going to cost a fortune.
If we take Shields back it will lesson the prospect cost. We'd have a spot for him if Folty is in the deal. If he's ok in the first half trade him. If not eat the money. It's worth it if we get to hold on to one of our top prospects.