Yeah last season I expected him to stay, but 3 consecutive 7-9 seasons, in this day-and-age of the NFL never looks good for a head coach - especially one who signed a huge extension last year. I think it's real and it will happen with the Rams. But I think people are immediately forgetting the Rams do not have a 1st round pick since it was traded to Tennessee to draft Jared Goff with the 1st pick. So LA has 2nd and 4th we could possibly acquire.... But honestly at this point, if we're trading Payton, why not trade Brees and have a clean slate? You gotta figure Payton will want to bring along Pete Carmichael and other guys like Joe Vitt for example. If the Saints name with Doug Marrone or Dennis Allen head coach then that franchise is going to be screwed for several years.
I feel like we've said that for the past 6 or 7 years ad nausea. Can't wait to grab another WR early.
It was a nice little run while it lasted, and we got a Lombardi Trophy. But the future seems to be pretty damn bleak. Wonder if we'll go outside the box with a new HC or pick up some retread. We'll prolly hire Jeff Fisher
Brandin Cooks Michael Thomas Willie Snead Marques Colston Jimmy Graham Kenny Stills Ben Watson Lance Moore Robert Meachem Devery Henderson Guys who had a decent season(s) with the Saints. I argue much of their success is due to the coaching, quarterback play and offense. We've seen what happened to Meachem, Moore, Watson, Stills and Graham once they left the Saints. With Sean Payton leaving I wonder the play of these receivers will change.
Defensive/ST staff. Kinda surprised to see Vitt get the boot, but damn, something needs to change before Brees becomes a crippled.
I feel like if he was there it wouldn't be the worst idea, but I don't believe he will be. Fox Sports Mocks Clemson QB Deshaun Watson for Saints First Pick This a move friends of Stuart would likely approve. Many would say but...DEFENSE. Let’s take a closer look. by cajuncommando58@cajuncommando58 Jan 13, 2017, 1:00pm CST TWEET SHARE PIN REC Can Deshaun Watson do this with the Lombardi?!?! Photo by Streeter Lecka/Getty Images Fox Sports put out a three round mock. Follow the link for the full story. On the surface you might think this is the craziest thing you ever heard of but, not so fast. Let’s give this one the old eye test. It’s a three round mock so here are the picks. With the 1st pick they would take Deshaun Watson. With the 2nd pick they would take Alabama’s OLB Ryan Anderson. Not a bad pick at 2nd. Walter Football has him as a 2-3 round talent. Ryan Anderson, OLB, Alabama Height: 6-2. Weight: 255. Projected 40 Time: 4.78. Projected Round (2017): 2-3. 12/17/16: Anderson is up to a total of 51 tackles with 17 for a loss, eight sacks, two passes broken up and three forced fumbles on the season. He had impressive games with excellent pass-rushing contributions against USC, Ole Miss and many other games. There was an arrest for 3rd degree domestic violence and criminal mischief in 2015. Apparently only his girlfriend’s car was attacked and both were arrested. She attacked his vehicle first. For the 3rd pick Fox Sports has the Saints taking LSU’s ILB Kendell Beckwith. Now I’m liking these picks less and less. I have, as well as most draft pundits, pass rush for our top need followed by cornerback a close second. We do need help at linebacker so I would guess BPA would be the determining factor with the picks, but there is a ton of pass rush talent available this year, including a sleeper pick Deuce Windham and I found during a joint film study last week. No I’m not going to give that away here. May start tweeting it soon though Deuce. What we do in free agency will of course influence draft policy. We actually have money to pursue top talent this year. Let’s hope we do this wisely. Walter Football has Kendall as a 2-3 round talent. Kendell Beckwith*, ILB, LSU Height: 6-2. Weight: 252. Projected 40 Time: 4.75. Projected Round (2017): 2-3. 12/17/16: In 2016, Beckwith has 91 tackles with six for a loss, one sack and four passes broken up. He turned in a solid regular season for the Tigers and was really missed when he was out with injuries. 8/13/16: Beckwith played well in 2015 for LSU as a physical in-the-box presence. On the year, the junior totaled 84 tackles with 10 tackles for a loss, two forced fumbles and a pass batted. He had 77 tackles with three break ups, two sacks and an interception as a sophomore. Beckwith has been a strong tackler and good at taking on blocks while a Tiger. He needs to show more pass-coverage skills for the NFL. Now for the meat of the article. A QB with the first pick?!?! First let’s look at Drew Brees. He signed a contract extension that basically has him with the Saints through 2017. Contract voids in 2018, carrying 18 mil in dead money for 2018. Has no tag and no trade clauses in it as well. This means the Saints should start preparing for LAB (life after Brees). This is possibly also Sean Payton’s last hooray as well. Watson is a dual threat QB along the lines of Cam Newton. This could well appeal to GM Mickey Loomis as a post Payton/Brees solution. If things go well then Deshaun would be able to sit and learn from one of the NFL’s best and if things don’t, be the hoped for answer in 2018 . Taking the Clemson Tigers to and winning a national championship, the real question is if he will still be there at number 11. This is possible. I actually have Notre Dame’s QB DeShone Kizer, as the best of a weak class, and most NFL ready. Watson is more a spread type QB, and the NFL defenses have had time to adjust to this method of attack. Still Deshaun Watson has proven he can produce as a passing QB. In 15 games during 2016 he threw for 4593 yards, averaging 306.2 per game and 7.9 per attempt. Much like Drew Brees he did this with many attempts, 579 with 388 completions for 67 percent. Has the arm, his long was for 65 yards, threw 17 INTs, and 41 TDs. Not quite a midget, Watson stands at 6’2” and weighs 210. He also rushed for 629 yards, long of 33, while scoring 9 TDs, in 165 attempts. This would also be a great pick going forward because it would open up the running game and could well signal a change in offensive philosophy. Watson is reported to be training with a Chicago Bears former QB to become NFL ready. Da Bears have the 3rd pick. So what do you think fans. Like the pick or hate it. It is time to look to the future with LAB on the horizon, so discuss in the comments.
I'm 100% in favor of drafting the guy you intend to be the next franchise QB in the 1st round and giving him 2 years to learn. Really like those 2nd and 3rd round picks as well.
given how important rookie deals are for the cap i hate sitting a qb for more than 1 year. cant have that great cap years go to waste if you actually hit on a pick
Next year is probably our last shot at making a run for the foreseeable future. The guys on the Saints Happy Hour podcast seem to think its a "YOLO year" and we need to trade up and make a run at some big free agents.
I mean if Deshaun Watson was there at #11? That's tough to pass up. I think you would have to select him.
Agree. Teams always go QB crazy early. It's honestly baffling at this point, but it happens almost every year.
It's a growing epidemic. But maybe not? I'll play devil's advocate and say that maybe with all the bullshit penalty rules where it's near impossible to cover anymore with a flag being called, plus quarterbacks so protected, that it's far easier for quarterbacks to succeed in the league now.
i honestly think watson could fall to our second pick easily. think he is at best the #3 qb in this class. but he has some wildly varying grades
1. Cleveland Browns 1-15 2. San Francisco 49ers 2-14 3. Chicago Bears 3-13 4. Jacksonville Jaguars 3-13 5. Tennessee Titans (from Rams, 4-12) 9-7 6. New York Jets 5-11 7. Los Angeles Chargers 5-11 8. Carolina Panthers 6-10 9. Cincinnati Bengals 6-9-1 10. Buffalo Bills 7-9 11. New Orleans Saints 7-9 There's the draft order. I've bolded each team who could use a quarterback. 1. Cleveland - Well they need a lot of things, but any pick (Myles Garrett) won't help them immediately IMO. 2. San Francisco - Kaepernick's contract is up (I think). 3. Chicago Bears - What will they do with Jay Cutler? They can't continue starting him. 6. New York Jets - Poor Geno Smith 7. Los Angeles Chargers - I know they Philip Rivers, but maybe new location means they want to install a new era of sorts. Draft a QB for the future. 10. Buffalo Bills - Tyrod Taylor sucks. EJ Manuel sucks. Mitch Trubisky QB Deshaun Watson QB DeShone Kizer QB Brad Kaaya QB That's a crappy list of quarterback prospects. Do all of those teams reach on them? I don't think, right? They're too many defensive players out there. So maybe Watson would reach 11?
I think Trubisky and Watson go top 10. I'd like to see how Kizer performs up to the draft. Kaaya sucks
The only law of averages at play currently is the Green Bay Packers streak. It's going to end soon. Maybe at Dallas.
A list of our top paid guys. I see a lot of people starting to age. And to think we have several more years of Jairus Byrd. Terron Armstead LT 25 4 5 yr$65,000,000 $13,000,000 $38,000,000 2022 Cameron Jordan DE 27 6 5 yr$55,000,000 $11,000,000 $33,469,000 2021 Jairus Byrd FS 30 8 6 yr$54,000,000 $9,000,000 $26,300,000 2020 Coby Fleener TE 28 5 5 yr$36,000,000 $7,200,000 $18,000,000 2021 Drew Brees QB 38 16 1 yr$24,250,000 $24,250,000 $24,250,000 2018 Max Unger C 30 8 3 yr$22,200,000 $7,400,000 $14,300,000 2020 Thomas Morstead P 30 8 6 yr$21,885,000 $3,647,500 $6,925,000 2019 Zach Strief RT 33 11 5 yr$20,000,000 $4,000,000 $8,400,000 2019 Mark Ingram RB 27 6 4 yr$16,000,000 $4,000,000 $7,600,000 2019 Sheldon Rankins DT 22 4 yr$12,801,648 $3,200,412 $12,801,648 2021
I mean I love Thomas Morstead and he's a great rah rah team and city guy on social media but he's still a punter. You can get those guys for way less than a million a year why are we paying him $3.6m?
Yeah good question. Honestly I don't know the range for punters in terms of salary. If any of our fellow Who Dat's have an idea let us know because I wonder if we're overpaying him. But the Saints have plenty of questionable contracts currently. To just reminisce, the crap our salary cap was in last offseason and Mickey Loomis was trying to swindle some sketch deal to sign Josh Norman. I remember seeing that news break on Twitter and just wondering how backloaded that contract was going to payout Norman.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...fl-draft?campaign=tw-cf-sf51362710-sf51362710 Daniel Jeremiah draft top-50 prospects.
Anyone ever been to London/UK? It's fucking cool. Kinda bummer weather - 10 minutes it's sprinkling rain with dark overcast, the subsequent 10 minutes are bright sunshine. I wanna go back for the Saints game. Who Dat!
Mike Triplett of espn.com predicts Saints will spend money on a premier defensive end. Honestly I would use the money to go after Stephon Gilmore.
Been to London a few times and agree it's a cool city. Thinking of going to the game and getting in a soccer game or two the same weekend if possible.
The best pass defense is a good pass rush, I'm ok with it. Right now QBs have 5+ seconds back there, no CB can hold coverage that long....especially out shitty LBers covering their WRs