The Left: Robespierre did nothing wrong

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  1. Name P. Redacted

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    Textualism or literalism or whatever the fuck Gorsuch is is fucking dumb.
     
  2. CaneKnight

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    So many people are going to die because 60 million people are literally retarded
     
  3. GoodForAnother

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    End it already Lord be merciful
     
  4. chuckmasterflex

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    Originalism. The idea is a farce. The conservatives figured it out and sold it well amongst their voters.

    The idea being:

    Somehow, a small group of slaveholders in the 1700's knew all the secrets to democracy and gifted it on the masses. It was perfect and tweaking it was treason.
     
  5. Name P. Redacted

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    He's more of a textualist but it's very close to originalism. He believes in following the letter of the law, for better or worse.
     
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  6. chuckmasterflex

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    Originalist and textualist have a tendency to bend together when it suits them. It is all ideology.
     
  7. Hoss Bonaventure

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    They are speeding up 7 more executions to try and meet the deadline of the drug expiration date.
     
  8. Iron Mickey

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    Look what many of those sorts believe about a collated series of stories from the Bronze Age...
     
  9. Redav

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    The best is being held hostage by the 2nd which was written when weaponry could fire one inaccurate shot per minute. We have to apply that rule for eternity no matter how little modern firearms resemble ones of the 18th century.
     
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  10. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    God damn, that was a Terry Tate Office Linebacker tackle.
     
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  11. Merica

    Merica Devine pls stop pointing out my demise. :(
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    The trick to getting around this type of justice is to change the laws. That way the Supreme Court doesn't matter so much.
     
  12. afb

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    Bernie is a progressive and not a democrat. He thinks democrats can be too centrist.

    I don't disagree with him but my issue with this though is he goes out and criticizes Dem nominations from time, like Ossof. He doesn't understand the bigger picture of just taking away Republican control. For as someone who is the most popular politician, he needs to do better than that.
     
  13. timo

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    That and he finds it necessary to insert himself into fucking everything.

    on the other hand.... please go away:
    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/04/please-god-stop-chelsea-clinton-from-whatever-she-is-doing
     
  14. TrustyPatches

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    Bernie has been critical of both sides for a long time. He isn't just gonna stop
     
  15. Redav

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    Bernie and his followers have a hard time with the concept of the greater good.
     
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  16. cutig

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    He probably should since there's only one side he can hitch his wagon to
     
  17. TrustyPatches

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    Maybe he should just stay principled and hope that by the time he's dead he's made an impact
     
  18. Teflon Queen

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    I don't see how Bernie's comments were remotely controversial
     
  19. Name P. Redacted

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    Are we still talking about Bernie and Ossof
     
  20. Keef

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    Bernie needs to work on his strategery
     
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  21. LuPoor

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    Encouraging intractability and demanding ideological purity will definitely have an effect. A bad one.
     
  22. timo

    timo g'day, mate
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    I agree.... his unwillingness to criticize his choice for governor in the Commonwealth of Va on reproductive rights is more worrisome and perhaps worthy of discussion. He's "principled" when he wants to be.

    Have a bad feeling about that race, btw... and Virginia is a critical state. Neither Democratic candidate seems all that ideal.
     
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  23. Teflon Queen

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    That's reading a lot into the statement of 'I don't know'
     
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  24. Joe_Pesci

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    the guy who the democrats never cared about and never gave any important committee positions to should take one for the team
     
  25. TrustyPatches

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    Build that rhetoric
     
  26. Name P. Redacted

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    I'd rather the left just be focused on getting a majority in all levels of government before starting the infighting.

    Can't govern while getting kukt
     
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  28. Joe_Pesci

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    "come together for the greater good"
    "ok"

    *some time later*
    "sorry, your ideas just weren't realistic"
     
  29. Teflon Queen

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    Perhaps people shouldn't get melodramatic over a completely innocuous answer to a question
     
  30. Redav

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    My issue is the picking and choosing along with how much power the left gives him.
     
  31. Joe_Pesci

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    when the choice is hillary clinton or donald trump, yeah i can support voting for clinton. but after she loses and there isn't a big election for 2 or 4 years, it's difficult for me to take "come together for the greater good" when we're talking about a set of ideas that just lost to donald trump.
     
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  32. Name P. Redacted

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    Lol breh you think Hillary lost because of her ideas?
     
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  33. Mister Me Too

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    The ideas did not lose to Donald Trump.
     
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  34. Joe_Pesci

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    lol!
     
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  35. cutig

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    Hillary lost because of emails, Mr Ghazi, and a horrible campaign strategy. Nothing to do with her ideals and policies.
     
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  36. Joe_Pesci

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    oh right "well what happened was... you see.. the russians... and like all of these dumb voters... and uhh the fbi"
     
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  38. Mister Me Too

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    So the ideas lost, ideas such as universal healthcare? Trump promised that, even if it was bs. He also made promises that align with the ideas you claiming lost the election, it's just that people fell for his lies.

    Hillary Clinton lost due to many factors but most people weren't even familiar with her position on the issues.
     
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  39. Joe_Pesci

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    :idk: it was the dumb voters' fault then?

    it's just hard for me to take seriously "come together for the greater good" from people who just lost the presidency to a reality tv star and his band of trust fund babies and corporate goons
     
  40. TrustyPatches

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    She lost because people saw her as more of the same.

    The biggest problem with democrats is that the voter base has been infiltrated by the old republican guard. The "I'm comfortable so why change things" voter. In the meantime, Bernie Sanders has become the most recognizable face of the left because his "wild" ideas of being a bit more of a social democracy make sense to people. Not to mention the fact that on the right, they elected a complete outsider to represent them who ends up winning the fucking presidency.

    I get it Chicago Seminole, I'm not the radical anymore. I'm just a guy on the left like so many others who recognizes there needs to be change. And that change at its core has to be removing the corporate power from our government. So I guess these views I have, have become mainstream.

    Too bad the money is aligned to the Clintons of the world. Mainstream as my ideas may be, they go nowhere without the DNC and it's corporate sponsors
     
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  41. cutig

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    This election wasn't based on any policy. Trump offered nothing but fear mongering and rhetoric about locking her up to gather his base. His 'policy' was shallow and based on nothing but his simple use of descriptors followed by whatever buzzword he was talking about.

    Maybe if Hillary just blamed everything on brown people she could have won? Worked for Trump.
     
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  42. Name P. Redacted

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    I saw far more (and still do see) Hillary For Prison signs than I saw Trump signs.

    Let's put a bullet between the ears of that take and bury next to Hillary's career.
     
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  43. Joe_Pesci

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    I guess Obama won in 2008 because of the housing crash

    This argument is just weak.
     
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  44. TrustyPatches

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    I fucking hate it. It's such a pussy ass cop out that won't go away
     
  45. cutig

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    Slap Joe Bidens face on Hillarys policy without the Clinton name or baggage, he wins.
     
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  46. J.R. Bob Dobbs

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    Hillary's loss had everything to do with

    1. fox news and the cult of (R)
    2. our absolute dumbshit electoral system
    3. ben ghazi's emails

    and basically nothing to do with the policies she put forth.
     
  47. Mister Me Too

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    That's not what I said, yes stupidly of voters was one of many factors, but a lot believed that Trump was going to provide universal healthcare, he's not. There are plenty other campaign promises that were from the Dems platform that were promised, but like I said majority of people did not know Hillary's position on many issues, that's on her and the campaign.

    Ok, don't come together and give the reality TV star a 2nd term. The progressive movement is not going to come from the federal level, it has to start at the local level and rise up to the federal level. What works in Oregon is not going to work in Georgia, so progressive states have to continue moving left and setting examples that will eventually spread to other areas.
     
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