Not sure what you guys are using, but I get more high using a Volcano vaporizer. I'm able to inhale a lot more vapor than I can smoke.
First floor of my new apartment shares a block with a dispensary. Very excited. Usually just smoke and use a high-end vaporizer, think I'm going to spring for a volcano and maybe something else. Can someone differentiate between: -Concentrates (in cartridges, correct?); -wax -concentrates in syringes?? -dabs -oil cartridges (same as concentrates?) I'm literally just going through the shop's website and trying to understand everything other than "flower"
I'll let someone else take the floor with explaining the differences, but I've got live resin, shatter, wax, and good ole flower. I use an ATMOS Greedy with a SnowWolf 90w box mod and its fantastic with all the concentrates. Cost me like $160 for everything + extra batteries. It's cheaper online but I wanted the vape store dudes to show me a bunch of stuff so I paid the premium for it.
After some brief research it seems that oils are exactly what I'm looking for. Now just need the right device. I want some sort of knowledge when I go into the store.
I got an o.pen when I went to Colorado. It's a good way to get into oils, they make it really easy and the flavors are good. The battery eventually failed on me, but I got my money's worth.
Use a Vape store like (smart) folks use Best Buy. Go have them show you the best stuff then, if you wanted, buy it cheaper online. Since recreational is legal there, you don't have to be transparent with your questions about how it all works and what wattage to use for certain products. Those dudes will know their shit and save you some reading. I'd take down a few brands and check their ratings online
do you notice much of a difference between the shatter and wax? That can be smoked through traditional pipes, right? What about vaporizers?
They can both be smoked. With dabs you'll need a dab rig that has a nail on it. They can go in vapes, but some vapes are concentrates only, flower only, or both, so do some research on what you want to use it for. I'd probably just walk into a dispensary and have a conversation with the budtender. Every one I've talked with has been extremely helpful.
Me personally? No. I just grip it and rip it. Sometimes I'll smoke flower then an hour later hit some shatter. And no, wax and shatter need a much hotter heating element than a lighter flame. My device heats from 221F-665F. You just put a "crumb" on the coil and hit the "fire" button and breathe in for a few seconds. That's all it takes.
This is probably an elementary question, but the oils/waxes/etc are made from different strains, correct? So a heavy indica concentrate will be much different from a heavy sativa concentrate, as in the same difference between smoking flower of both? Or are the concentrates more restricted in their diversity?
No restrictions. The different types: shatter, oil, live resin, etc, just has to do with the way they extract the THC from the bud. It's above my paygrade to tell you how each is done, but you can def get sativa, indica, and hybrids in about any form.
Really? I've never heard anyone say that about vaping concentrates. I only usually buy Heavy Hitters, but I've had lower grade Green Caps and Space Apes also and they were still way better than any bud that I have ever smoked.
He wasn't doing it properly. If he was using a shitty vape, it can be tough to get anything. If you use a good vape, it will put you on the floor with a single breath if you aren't careful
Is there any actual evidence or data suggesting that vaping is definitively healthier than smoking, or is it just word-of-mouth? I've always heard that but have never actually seen anything to back that up.
Yes, concentrates are made from all types of indica, sativa, and hybrids. The differences are the same as smoking different types of flower. I think there is a better market and selection with the concentrates, but that's really only what I see in DC where its practically legal. I'm sure its different in other places.
Wax is crazy. I only dabble in it every so often because I've got a high enough tolerance already; I don't want regular weed to not get the job done. Plus, for some reason I always feel sheisty lighting up a propane torch to heat up the nail.
Look at a glass piece after smoking flower for a while. All the black shit in there also goes in your lungs...
Concentrates kinda encompass the rest of those. everything listed under concentrates in your post IS a concentrate... there are several types, some you listed and more. Oil - can be THC oil, cannabis oil, hash oil. ***pretty sure cannabis oil by itself is THC free and used solely for "medication" and not getting high bc it doesn't give you the stoned euphoria at all. THC oil (CO2 oil) the standard oil carts you get to screw into your pen and vape. normally made from particular strains just. Hash oil, at least to my understanding is what Dabs are... and it's just a much more potent concentrate than thc oil. the THC extraction method is different from the THC/CO2 oil and simply gives you a really thick "sap" instead of the more runny oil. Syringes (again just in my experience) are "Rick Simpson Oil"... the canadian guy that IIRC first started the whole campaign for medicating with cannabis oils. You can squirt that shit right into your mouth or use it to like rub on sore joints and shit. Some has THC in it and some is non-high. Other shit like Wax, shatter, honeycomb, crumble, etc is just THC extracted from the leaves via different sciency methods. ***I'm pretty sure "Shatter" is the cleanest type.
Sounds like I have a little bit of a learning curve. Just excited to branch out, have really only smoke flower regularly, and only try concentrates/oils/waxes/etc. when friends have them.
I just moved to Alabama for a few months from Los Angeles. I luckily sent supplies out ahead of me, but there is no way I would fuck with getting wax in this state; I'll get railroaded with felony possession of a controlled substance most like.
I think I got stoned one night and read a pretty long Leafly article on dabs. I think the term BHO - butane hash oil is kinda of a catch all phrase for wax, shatter, etc. I know that it uses butane (hydrocarbon) instead of CO2 (carbon dioxide) which gives you a much thicker stickier substance. but also more pure. most CO2 oils for vape pens only get up to like ~82% when they're the good good. Dabs/BHO are practically pure and don't have any "filler" shit in it like the vape carts do. Also not sure how that ties to dab pens.... maybe dab pen just heats up a lot hotter
second Open Carry on the o.penvape as a great starter. if you buy two of them for ~$15ea I think they have a lifetime warranty. good temp and battery life between charges.
Team flower. Only time I smoke oil is when it's offered. Truthfully, I really try to stay away from bho. I've seen how dirty the butane can be on arrival and doubt every manufacturer is diligent in their refining processes. I've seen paint chips and mystery oils in butane that was supposedly 99.999999% pure. Took 6 distillations to finally make it pure through a closed loop system. Now rosin and bubble and heat pressed hash I'll smoke all day. Solvent free is the way to be. Imo.
Shit, they just recently demoted simple possession from a felony to misdemeanor. Now you don't go to jail for possession. No idea about wax or everything else. Like most everything else, the rest of the country has to drag Alabama kicking and screaming into the 21st century. What part of AL?
Point taken, but I just hate smoke entering my lungs and would like to "soften the blow" any way I can. Granted, some oils and vape may be just as bad, but smoke is unquestionably terrible for your lungs.
I've still never fucked with dabs bc of that video that was posted on here a couple years ago of a high school kid hitting one then freaking out while his friends laughed
You have to be careful with dabs. I thought I could rip it real hard the third time I partook since I was a pro after doing it a couple times in the past; shit sent me back to the 9th grade. Not enjoyable.
you ever hit a standard gbong with the whole 2L bottle and pitcher full of water? hitting a dab won't get you much higher than hitting some stanky nugs in a gbong. hell the times I've hit dabs I've never got real nervous or whig out-ish. can't say the same for gbongs
Yes it will. From someone who has a 32 oz Gatorade bottle G right in front of me (and have for the past 15 years) and also has a vape with shatter loaded right beside me. Shatter will fuck you up wayyyy more than nugs in a g. One is 15% thc, the other is close to 60%.
much higher than 60%. have seen tests for high quality oil carts (not-dab) that are 82%. dab is supposed to be higher % than standard oil the amount of smoke consumed in 1 milky ass 2L gbong rip >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the amount of smoke I get from vape. maybe I just have never thought to attempt to cheef a vape/dab pen like that, if it's even possible. the whole "slow and steady inhale" doesn't allow it for me. I've done stank in a gbong and good quality vapes/dabs, both via pen and pipes. Dabs never got more intense than just super high but still enjoyable as shit. I've seen a fuck load of gbong panic attacks and had plenty myself
Hmm. IDK. Always works for me . You're right about the g making people sick or flip out. It's definitely the most intense way to smoke flower. I think vaping is a cleaner high. Plus you don't smell like smoke , so way less paranoia.
I went through a couple cheap vapes and said Fuck it. I had a buddy text me the parts I needed to get an awesome one. Then I went into the vape store and handed the dude my phone to read the text. Vape guy - "yep. I've got all this but if you're using this for what I assume you are, you don't need this much power." Me - "yes, I do. I thought we were in America, Are we not?!" We had a laugh and I went on my way. Disclaimer: I had to grab the boxes this morning to post the brands
have these two friends, right? when they, or anyone else, come to my house they can smoke all they want until i am legitimately out of weed, i don't care. when i go to their house, i get passed a bong 3 times over a several hour span. don't be assholes, share appropriately