Are you trying to act like Trump’s frothing dog and pony border show is somehow a legitimate immigration policy? I doubt anyone is an immigration expert here but I’m pretty sure we can all confidently say that screeching about a wall to keep marauding hordes of rapists and murderers out isn’t close to being any sort of legitimate policy. It’s a wrestling show for white trash.
And further, address the overstaying visa issue rather than a waste of money wall where border crossings have fallen. Other than that, let's enforce the current laws on the books and provide a pathway for illegal immigrants to citizenship and taxpaying bc it's rather expensive and doesn't make much sense to round them up and then deport. Go to bed, merica. It would be in your best interest since quitting while you're ahead isn't an option.
My body is ready for a Merica post about how black men are genetically predisposed to crime and poor economic outcomes. Lay it on me brother
i love how he dodges questions on anything that is somewhat difficult/problematic to answer or will reveal whatever is under all this show he puts on "you won't like what I say when I tell you why black males are inherently behind other minority groups" *disappears into the void never to explain*
Yes. I think over time that will have a huge effect. I think seeing black males succeeding and prospering is extremely important for young black men the same as it is for young white men. I think stopping a criminal system that creates broken homes is extremely important. I think helping high schools that foster more black male college graduates is important. Anything socially that we can do to foster an environment where black boys see themselves as being badass old men with proud legacies. I think we are definitely getting on that path, but we as a nation haven’t allowed that to happen historically with the way we’ve treated black men.
this border gotcha is super strange and the only people I've seen use it are advocating for the wall so lets see where this goes
One for one swap of anyone coming here looking to better themselves for anyone who currently follows Ben Shapiro on Twitter
Don't think anyone disagrees with any of this. But I think everyone would agree that none of this, especially the criminal justice bit, is a purely economic fix, which is what we've been saying all along.
Have you ever seen me do anything but mock the idea of a fucking wall? I’m down with giant public works projects that require a lot of natural resources. I’ve advocated a giant chupacabre statue in here before.
I think merica is stuck in a vicious cycle where in order to explain how there might be more depth to the run of the mill racist voter, he has to legitimize this clown car of an administration and congress’ policy/lawmaking when it’s painfully obvious that it’s absolutely nothing but wholesale corruption and whatever the whims of the idiotic man baby are that day after watching Fox
Then why do you keep acting like we’re dealing with legitimate policy on the side of the gop and open borders for the libs
I disagree with the ignorant refrain that we just need to find these poor black boys more/better role models and that will fix the legacy of institutional racism holding them back
You don't answer anyones questions but self flagellate to get your questions answered. It's an odd look.
We should do like Pablo Escobar and build soccer fields where all the blacks live...get them doing something constructive and get us back to the World Cup
Because all i see on the democrat side is outrage at how the republicans are handling it. I don’t see any actual policy on the democrat side. The dream act is a reaction to people who are already here. If the actual policy is “we’re gonna try to keep you out, but if you get here then we’ll let you stay” then say it. I’m sure everyone here wants the legal immigration policy to be easier to navigate, but I honestly have no clue about the democratic policy regarding illegal immigration. Obama was certainly fine with tossing their asses out, but there wasn’t article after article about it for some strange reason.
What question haven’t I answered from the twenty different people asking them? And you dodged the question completely. It’s insane how hard it is to answer this fucking question when asked five times now.
Wasn’t Lyrtch preaching earlier today about how the court system itself is completely biased to wealth? And how if you have enough money for a lawyer you can get away with anything? Why would this not apply to black males? Don’t give me some shit about juries because a good defense lawyer can make sure the jury works for his client.
This is a classic example of why you’re so frustrating. Your first sentence professes ignorance over the Democrats’ immigration policy. Your second sentence professes that you actually do know what the Democrats’ immigration policy is, and offers a conclusory statement as fact when, to the contrary, there is a hell of a lot of discussion about both the Morton Memo and Obama’s record on removals available for anyone who cared to look for it.
Well just observe the idiocy and cruelty of this ego stroking adventure if you want to see the source of the outrage. It’s an absolute abomination if you think about how sick this little quixotic voyage our president can’t let loose of is. Immigration is an extremely fucking complicated issue so you’re not going to get a one sentence answer on how to deal with it from anyone.
who are you he was literally nicknamed the deporter in chief in his first term, if you google it theres ENDLESS ARTICLES about it advocacy groups hit him for it constantly there is endleesssssssss research on how minorities are treated by the criminal justice system from excessive bail to outlier sentencing, etc sorry I didn't include that in a discussion about how our criminal justice systems are biased towards the wealthy and powerful (pssst, who makes up the majority of the wealthy and powerful), i'll do better to include racial critiques of systems at all times
I think the border should be tight but if you get here and are contributing to society then we should create policies to make you a citizen. MSM doesn’t give conservatives any sort of a platform. Hell just name one that is a major player on anything besides Fox News. Name one in Hollywood who hasn’t been shut up by now. Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell want illegals deported. We all know this shit. But yeah there’s nuance to it. Any more questions? And for the 6th time what do you think our border policy should be?
Why won’t you explain why you have completely bought in to white nationalist propaganda about immigration?
Liberals are for legalizing drugs and allowing any adult consensually fucking adult they want to fuck. How are they the fun police.
Where were you going with your "you wouldn't like the assumptions I'll make about why black males are disproportionately impacted"? and do I really need to spend the next twenty minutes writing up the dozens of conservative voices in mainstream outlets? just one conservative outlet singing the praises for the NYT. https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/02/new-york-times-opinions-conservatives-finally-welcome/ Bret Stephens and Douthat most notably. The biggest of the big dog papers! MSNBC literally gave Greta AND Hugh Hewitt shows in the last year while continuing to have Joe Scarborough as their morning anchor. Considered the most liberal cable channel! I can go on also woof at using "illegals", but again, you can't show me the congressional leaders stating their answer to your question so why should I, lonely peon do so
Nbc hired that despicable cunt Meghan Kelly(also had that absurd forum crucifying Clinton and refusing to attack Trump at all)...there are countless shitbags all over CNN...Rick Santorum is somewhere as are many other awful people. Newspapers everywhere are littered with conservative garbage. How do you seriously fall for Trump himself’s “MSM” rhetoric?
How many democrats have come out and said “well if you actually get over here then we’ll find a way to keep you?” I know that’s the democratic policy. I know why they can’t come out and say it since that might entice entirely too many people to come. I know that the second trump isn’t in power we’re gonna be tossing people out at almost exactly the same rate as the republicans. And I know the outrage over it will almost completely disappear. Obama was known as deported in chief amongst Mexicans but the American populous and democrats in general did not give a shit at all. So when conservatives see tweet after tweet of outrage over removals of illegal immigrants and shrug their shoulders, then democrats can’t even outwardly define what they want the immigration policy to be, forgive me if I don’t call them all racist heartless pieces of shit.
The ominous MSM collectively creamed themselves when that stupid fat fuck took some lithium and managed to not erupt into incoherent babbling for one single night and celebrated that he truly became president
Pay fucking attention and stop letting literal fucking Nazis define your views of what Democratic policy positions are. Democrats on the record supporting DACA, increased funding to INS to reduce backlogs, focusing deportations on criminals, protecting family immmigration, and the diversity lottery. These aren’t reflexive responses to Trump and Republicans but long standing policy positions. That doesn’t mean it’s wrong at all to point out Trump is being a racist with his policy proposals. Fucking Lindsey Graham pointed that out.
at joe Scarborough. I told you where I was going. I think it’s important for more successful black male role models to be looked up to. And I know that the statement itself could be twisted in a racist manner by anyone who disagrees. I praised the nyt earlier and criticized this thread for how you criticized them welcoming conservatives. And please for the love of god tell me your kinda brief overview of an immigration policy.
You realize Joe Scarborough was like literally the most conservative member of the House of Representatives when he was there?
Tell me a single conservative on this website that cites fucking Megan kelly or Rick Santorum when they try to spout a political point of view. Come on man. That’s really the biggest names you can think of? At least rant about Mel Gibson being welcomed back to Hollywood. I know you love his ass though.
first off, you said no MSM give any conservative any platform, then ignored most my examples to point out one former REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN JOE SCARBOROUGH right, the one who did as much as anyone to mainstream Trump by having him call in regularly that one? and we're talking immigration policy or border policy? those are different things
You know how you can respond to that? By actually stating how you think we should treat illegal immigration.
thats because republican point of view on this day in 2018 is literally only racial resentment white fragility reactionaries