Trumpocalypse: No hanky/lanky

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  1. Hoss Bonaventure

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    The midterms will be a trial run to see how far the Russians can push the 2020 election
     
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  2. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    Yup, if you live in a state with a GOP governor and SoS then theyret going to do everything in their power to not secure this election.
     
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  3. bertwing

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  4. BudKilmer

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    A former student of mine at West Canaan

     
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  5. lechnerd

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    They’re selling our debt because they need money for 2 reasons: 1. US sanctions have hit them hard and 2. They need money to pay for pensions.

    There are large protests across Russia currently going on because Putin is raising the pension age from 60 to 65 for men. The life expectancy for males in Russia is 66. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-44992376

    This would me a much bigger story if Japan or China were selling US debt but Russia owns(ed) so little relatively speaking.
     
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  6. Doc Louis

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    And yet Disney didn't want to do the right thing and buy Fox news and shut it down
     
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  7. Doc Louis

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    This is all Russia's fault for not having a better safety nyet for retirement.
     
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  8. chuckmasterflex

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  9. wes tegg

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    :golfclap:
     
  10. bertwing

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  11. afb

    afb Spoiler Alert: Pawnee, IN may not be on a map.
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    that's not a bad omen or anything
     
  12. Schadenfred

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    Hmm... I wonder which shoes are about to drop.



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  13. slogan119

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    Tough to do when it’s not part of the sale package
     
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  14. Schadenfred

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    By the way, Rudy is not wrong that collusion is not a crime, per se. He and his Fox cohorts are playing word games, though. "Collusion" is a political term. What Mueller would pin on Donnie and his team, however, is "conspiracy," among other charges.
     
  15. Truman

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    I dont know else to post this, but ...

    A few times a week I play basketball and a city park after work. Pretty good games. teenagers through guys in the 40s.

    It's about half Lincoln Park Yuppies, and half guys that grew up in the neighborhood. Some are pretty hard dudes, in gangs ect. Every once and a while I'll ask about someone and his friends are just like "he aint around no more"

    Been going for a few years now, everyone knows each other. You see kids hanging around the court last summer, this summer they're big enough to play. A couple weeks ago a couple of the kids had a pellet gun that looked like an uzi. All I could think about was a Tamir Rice situation.

    I pulled them aside and talked to them about being carefuk ect. They brushed me off like I would have if some older dude was giving me a 'be careful' lecture. Anyway - some other guy that goes to the park texted me last night they were out there last night and the cops came and they all got arrested. They were all be morons and shooting up trees and signs, but it's kind of sad that my first thought is 'well at least they didnt get shot'

    /csb.
     
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  16. Truman

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    Conservatives always base their arguments around semantics and skewed context. Instead of explaining what you did wrt collusion vs conspiracy - they're more than happen insinuating that it's virtually impossible for Trump to do anything wrong because collusion is not a crime.

    It's the same shit when they talk about Pelosi during the ACA when she said "We have to pass it to see what's in " That's been taken out of context to insinuate something shady. When it was 'we have to pass this to see (experience/benefit) what's in it" .
     
  17. jrmy

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    This is the new spin. They are trying to argue that the investigation was started into collusion with Russia but that isn't a crime so the whole thing is politically motivated. It's total bullshit.
     
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  18. dome foam

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    I’ve never doubted mueller, but I’m curious as to what the underlying crime mueller attaches to a conspiracy charge?
     
  19. jrmy

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    Treason.

    Really idk I'm not a lawyer I'm just here for the popcorn and show.
     
  20. enjj

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    When does it drop and what are the consequences? Charges, impeachment, handing over the mid terms to Dems?
     
  21. Schadenfred

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    Aiding and abetting to commit conspiracy, obstruction of justice, misprision of felony, computer fraud, wire fraud, contributions and donations by foreign nationals, violations of election and campaign finance laws, false statements, and perhaps even treason. And so on.
     
  22. Bruce Bowen

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    I love when Rudy is on cause he is so fucking stupid.
    "I don't know what the conflict is, I might know, and it would keep me out of the investigation"
    Oh okay, weird this conflict is coming up right now. Something so problematic that Mueller shouldn't be in charge is getting brought up 2 years into the investigation. Got it.
     
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  23. dome foam

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    that's...not a crime.
     
  24. three stacks

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    a center right leaning publication combed through Bernie’s Medicare for all plan and concluded that there would be a net savings to Americans. and lmao at that “worth noting”
     
  25. sflnole

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    Is that the student union, by the food court?
     
  26. sho nuff

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    yep
     
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  27. VaxRule

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    Did you miss the fact that there have already been a number of criminal charges filed against Russians for their actions in the 2016 election?
     
  28. NYGator

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  29. dome foam

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    this is tangential, but w/e. no one has been charged with activity related to the dissemination of the hacked info (collusion). which i assume is coming, and that is where the conspiracy lies...in whatever illegalities are related to the collusion.

    i don't think anyone believes that the trump campaign actually helped the russians steal the info.
     
  30. sflnole

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  31. Prospector

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    I need RICO to finish
     
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  32. NYGator

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  33. Sub-Zero

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    Let me guess. That's the excuse now to keep wages down. Just throw the tariffs word around no matter if it actually affects your business substantially.
     
  34. joe-

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    why is he quoting a fake trump account
     
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  35. brolift

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    You really just don't understand how burdensome property taxes on a third home are for a lot of those on the earnings call.
     
  36. VaxRule

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    He’s worked really hard to conceal their involvement in the hacking from the beginning. He very publicly asked them to hack. Mueller pointed out that for the first time they tried to attack her campaign’s email (not DNC stuff) on the very same day he he gave that “Russia, if you’re listening ...” response at his press conference.
     
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  37. RSK

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    It's so absurd. The guy gets shit on for enjoying his life after serving his term or wearing a tan suit or using mustard. Can you imagine if he was I dunno Caught fucking a porn star? Fox isn't the only org to to blame for the shitshow we're in. NYT and CNN in their attempt to be "fair and balanced" think that it means you have to badmouth both parties equally instead of telling the full fucking truth like it actually is.

    "Centrists" like Jake Tapper can go fuck themselves.
     
  38. Truman

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    Because he's the fake Morgan Freeman, duh
     
  39. sflnole

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  40. NYGator

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    I think the narrative regarding Giuliani by the media shouldn't be that he is moving the goal post. It should be that Giuliani is no longer denying that Trump committed collusion.
     
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  41. Doc Louis

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    Conspiracy is a crime usually. Also wire fraud.
     
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  42. NYGator

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    Not a fake. Different. That's why he uses J.

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  43. dome foam

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    conspiracy to commit a crime is a crime, yes.
     
  44. Doc Louis

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    Good job, you solved your case.
     
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  45. Truman

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    :facepalm:
     
  46. Prospector

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    Corporations benefitting from tax cuts, wages flat and consumer spending affected by higher costs
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    by Roby Brock ([email protected]) 23 hours ago 158 views

    Economist Mervin Jebaraj says you can point to good and bad in the GOP tax cuts that have been in effect for a little over six months. The UA Walton College of Business analyst pointed to positive news on the corporate front, but says workers and consumers are still not seeing robust longer-term benefits.

    Appearing on this week’s edition of Talk Business & Politics, Jebaraj noted that corporate earnings have performed well from the tax cut windfall, but there is still hesitancy in how that money may be invested.

    “We have a pretty decent picture of what the first three months of corporate earnings were in 2018. We’re starting to get a better picture of what the second three months in 2018 were,” he said. “A significant chunk of corporate America’s earnings report, in the first quarter at least, came from those tax savings.”

    He noted that Home Depot saw about 95% of its income growth come from tax savings, while Apple was around 65% and Google was about 26%.

    “Now, obviously the stock market is not going to respond very positively if most of your income growth came from tax savings, as opposed to, you know, new business and selling more to customers, but it is important to show that a lot of corporate America has healthier balance sheets as a result of the tax savings that were passed through at the end of 2017,” he noted.

    Jebaraj said additional positive news for corporations lies in the early business investment figures presented. While growing, it has not reached the levels seen in 2014 and 2015, he said.

    It is both good and bad that many publicly traded companies have used a chunk of the tax savings to buy back about $700 billion in cumulative stock over the past six months, according to Jebaraj.

    “That tells me that businesses are largely not seeing great future investment opportunities for them to invest their money in, and so they’re returning it back to shareholders. I’m someone that doesn’t think that all share buyback programs are bad. Obviously, they do contribute to issues around inequality that we have in this country, but in general what share buybacks do is they take money from companies that don’t see future investment returns or have good business ideas, return them to shareholders so shareholders can then invest them in companies that they might see better business opportunities from,” Jebaraj said.

    On Friday, the government released the first report of second quarter gross domestic product (GDP) of 4.1%, stronger than first quarter revised GDP growth of 2.2%. Jebaraj said that it’s still wait-and-see on how robust the revised numbers and the remainder of the year will be for GDP, but he would be surprised if it was powerful enough to pay for the estimated $1 trillion in debt the tax cuts are on pace to produce.

    Workers’ wages have not rebounded as promised from the tax cuts and that situation has been compounded by inflation, a tick-up in interest rates, and higher energy prices. Jebaraj said the promise of wage gains has been the most “disappointing story” of the tax cuts.

    “We haven’t really seen any significant movement on the wage front, so right after the tax cuts passed you saw a lot of announcements of bonuses, but at the end of the day it doesn’t seem like there were any more announcements of bonuses than usual… and none of these bonuses really contributed to annual wage increases,” he said.

    “If you’re looking at the first quarter, the average worker’s wages, when adjusted for inflation, actually went down. On a year-over-year basis from June 2017 to June 2018 there has been absolutely no change in the wages received by the average worker,” Jebaraj said, who emphasized that workers’ wages have been stagnant for several years.

    “The tax cuts were supposed to change that, but we haven’t seen any evidence of that yet. What we have seen is that consumers have gotten some extra money in their pockets from tax savings, not from increased wages but just fewer taxes taken out by the federal government. In large part, unfortunately, those tax cuts are being eaten up by the gas price increase that also coincided during the same time. So, you’re not seeing a lot of extra consumer spending from all of this yet,” he said.

    You can watch Jebaraj’s full interview below.