HoF [REDACTED] v2.0: FUCK...We suck again!

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  1. SC

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    Pretty much a win for everyone. Keep Snit around after a great year, but they're not exactly committing to him long-term either. Can easily afford to make a move if things go south next year.
     
  2. Sterling A

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    Agree, get this out of the way and concentrate on more important offseason signings/trades for the next 3 1/2 months
     
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  3. Gin Buckets

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    Curious what happens with Hernandez and Seitzer.
     
  4. Sterling A

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    He gone

     
  5. Louis Holth

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  6. Sterling A

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  7. Festus McBadass

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    It’s a club option
     
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  8. Festus McBadass

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    Pass
     
  9. Sterling A

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  10. Gin Buckets

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    Some of the narrative seems to be backtracking from a year ago wrt spending for the 2019 season. Makes me nervous.

    If we trot out the same team in 2019, without any significant upgrades, I'll be pretty disappointed.
     
  11. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    I agree with AA, much rather trade for Trout than sign Harper.
     
  12. Sterling A

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    Atlanta Braves Top 10 Prospects Updated
    by Marc Hulet
    October 15, 2018


    The Braves have steadily fed their big league roster with talent from the minors but they continue to have the best prospect depth in the National League East.

    Click here for the pre-season Top 10

    1. Mike Soroka | RHP | AAA —> Although he’s not a flame-thrower, Soroka has everything you look for in a young pitcher — and future top-rotation arm. He still has a solid fastball in the 92-95 mph range, as well as two other above-average offerings. His control is above-average for his age and his command should be above-average in time. The biggest concern with the 6-5 hurler is his lack of durability and the shoulder issues that wiped out a good portion of his season. If healthy in 2019, he should be a solid contributor to the Braves’ rotation.

    2. Ian Anderson | RHP | AA —> Like Soroka, Anderson has a three-pitch mix that should be better-than-average and his fastball ranges between 92-95 mph. The 20-year-old doesn’t have the above-average control, but it didn’t keep him from striking out 142 batters in 119.1 innings. He allows an average number of fly balls but did an excellent job of keeping balls in the park with just two homers allowed. Anderson has a solid pitcher’s frame and could a solid innings-eater as a No. 2-3 starter.

    3. Kyle Wright | RHP | AAA —> Another starter with top-of-the-rotation potential, the fifth overall pick of the 2017 draft chewed through minor league hitters and reached The Show at the end of 2018. His fastball sits in the mid-90s and can work into the upper 90s. He has a potential for two above-average breaking balls and an average-or-better changeup. Like Anderson, Wright has a frame that hints at 200+ inning potential. His control and command still need polish.

    4. Touki Toussaint | RHP | AAA —> Toussaint, 22, continues to be a bit of an enigma, although he did reach the Majors and had some success. He has the ability to work in the mid-to-upper 90s but threw more in the lower 90s late in the year with more emphasis on sinking the ball. He also showed above-average potential with his curve and changeup/splitter. Like the pitchers above, he has a solid pitcher’s frame and should be able to hold up over a full season and provide lots of innings. On the down side, he fights his delivery more than the others and struggles with both his command and control. He has mid-rotation potential as a starter or high-leverage potential as a reliever.

    5. Austin Riley | 3B | AAA —> The first hitter to the make the list, Riley has a chance to be a plus hitter for both average and power, although he’ll need to trim the Ks to truly be effective as a hitter. In the upper minors, he’s benefitted from high BABIPs but he also hits a lot of line drives and has above-average raw power. His BB-K of 37-129 shows a need to tighten up his approach at the plate. He has the arm and enough athleticism to stick at third base. I see a future .250-.270 hitter with 25+ home run potential in his prime.

    6. Cristian Pache | OF | AA —> Extremely raw, Pache will no doubt reach the Majors even if he doesn’t develop much more with the bat. He has exceptional value tied to his base running, arm and defensive skills. Those tools easily earn plus grades. Just 19, he’s already reached double-A so it’s hard to knock his offence too much. He needs to become more patient which will allow him to find better offerings to hit and drive. Pache also reportedly has excellent makeup, which should help him continue to develop.

    7. Joey Wentz | LHP | A+ —> Wentz missed a good chunk of the year and the Braves have been pretty quiet about what his issues were so I’m a little hesitant to rank him this high. When healthy, he shows three above-average offerings, including a 92-94 mph fastball, with a strong pitcher’s frame. He could eventually feature three above-average offerings. A competitive player, he might be better suited to relief if his health issues continue to surface (He has battled arm issues in the past).

    8. Luiz Gohara | LHP | AAA —> Gohara has perhaps the most electric stuff on his list with an upper-90s fastball and wipeout breaking ball. But he’s also the most likely to end up as a reliever due to his poor command and so-so changeup. His control isn’t as bad as his command but he gets hit around when he throws too many poor strikes. There are also concerns about his conditioning and he’s battled health issues.

    9. Drew Waters | OF | A+ —> Selected in the second round of 2017, Waters already reached high-A ball at the age of 19. He’s quite athletic and has good speed, with the potential to steal 20-30 bases. He has shown excellent gap pop and could have some over-the-fence potential with some adjustments to his swing and a focus on hitting more fly balls. A switch-hitter, he currently shows more potential from the left side of the plate. Waters should have the ability to play all three outfield positions.

    10. Bryse Wilson | RHP | AAA —> Wilson works in the 92-95 mph range with his heater and induces a healthy number of ground-ball outs. He also possesses good control and struck out 143 batters in 125.2 innings despite needing to make improvements on his secondary offerings. He has a burly build and will need to watch his conditioning as he matures. Just 20, he has a lot of time to continue to develop but he might be a reliever in the long term.

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    Kyle Muller | LHP | AA —> A 2016 second rounder, Muller has moved more slowly than most of Atlanta’s top arms. He has a big, strong pitcher’s frame but has struggled with consistency and his velocity as a pro. He streamlined his delivery a bit in 2018 and had more success pitching at three levels and reaching double-A. He has the potential to have three average or better offerings. If the fastball comes all the way back, he could be a mid-rotation arm. If not, he has potential as a back-end innings-eater.

    Kolby Allard | LHP | AAA —> Allard reached the Majors as a 21-year-old hurler but lacks the overall stuff to be a high-end starter. He has an excellent changeup with a promising breaking ball but his fastball is fringe-average and his command needs work. He might stick at the back end of a big league rotation but he might be best suited to work as a sixth/seventh-inning reliever.

    William Contreras | C | A+ —> A young, athletic catcher, Contreras looks like a future big league back-up with just enough raw potential with the bat to maybe become a starter. He showed some pop in 2018 but he’s a very aggressive hitter and needs to play under a little more control at the plate.
     
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  13. Sterling A

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  14. Louis Holth

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    Dan Uggla still on payroll lol
     
  15. FightingCock

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    This is the "Let's having some fun" offseason.
     
  16. bcuga

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    Realmutto will be a Brave next year
     
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  18. jrmy

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    Mike Trout and Bryce Harper to ATL do it AA you puss
     
  19. Shiggityshwo

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    or are you just too chicken

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  20. jplaYa

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    If Trout is on the table, AA knows we have the most chips to make that happen. I'll believe it when I see it though. I would have no problem sending Inciarte, Julio, and 2-3 frontline pitching prospects for two years with the hope of maybe extending for 2 more and a player option. Might have to throw Pache in there too. Not sure what it would take. He's owed 33.25M the next two seasons with some pretty minor performance incentives so that would be over half our budget.
     
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  21. Degausser

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    Nobody in the minors is untouchable for Trout. That's the best player in baseball. God, what I would give to have him in Atlanta. It'll never happen though.
     
  22. DrunkJester

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  23. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Could we get Clint Frazier for JT? Would we want that?
     
  24. jrmy

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    Didn't want him anyways...



    Why would you want that?
     
  25. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    I don't think we are going to get a ton for him. Frazier is just 24 and has a ton of tools. He's basically a lottery ticket. :idk:
     
  26. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Also, if Angel's trade Trout they are waiving the biggest white flag in baseball history. Why would they want a couple of our veterans? Flip them?
     
  27. jrmy

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    So they can say "we still think we can compete with the pieces we got at the ML level in addition to some really good prospects who are close to the majors"
     
  28. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    I wouldn't mind targeting Wilson Ramos. He played in 111 and had the 5th highest fWAR of all catchers. He's not Realmuto but would be a massive upgrade and shouldn't command insane money.
     
  29. Sterling A

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    signed a two year deal 2 years ago with the rays for 12.5 mill, and that was when he was 29 and in the middle of a Torn ACL. He will command a much bigger contract this time than 6.25 million per. Lets say we offer him a 3 year 35 million dollar deal (11.7 million per year) which is what he will get or something around there. Trade Julio and there is the 11 million we need to sign him
     
  30. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    That seems pretty reasonable assuming he can stay healthy. Seems like the perfect fit for a team with a solid backup. He's a good defender as well which fits what we want.
     
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  31. Room 15

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    I always think Culberson is older than he is
     
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  32. Louis Holth

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    Alright joe Simpson
     
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  33. Room 15

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  34. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    How do you guys feel about Dallas Keuchel?
     
  35. FightingCock

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    I mean, hes an ace imo. Very folty like. Definitely an upgrade
     
  36. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    I like his postseason experience. Probably 10-11 starts by the time he hits free agency. I guess he'll cost a fuck ton though.
     
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  37. FightingCock

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    We have 14-15 starting pitching prospects....some things got to give
     
  38. Sterling A

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    I highly doubt we sign Kershaw, Corbin, or Keuchel. Especially after AA's thoughts yesterday. Trade market for pitchers, free agency for hitters is my guess
     
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  39. FightingCock

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    We will see, it's really exciting where we are. But I also want to keep our young core and grow for years, not the next 2-3
     
  40. jrmy

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    If I'm paying ace money in the free agent market, I want someone who I know is going to miss bats and be consistently elite.

    That's not Keuchel.
     
  41. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Yea you may be right. Hopefully we at least look into everyone. I'd like Morton too.
     
  42. jplaYa

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    I’d take MadBum over either and the Giants are rebuilding.
     
  43. SC

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    Going external just to re-hire Roger would be ridiculous.
     
  44. Louis Holth

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    I thought the reason he lost his job in the first place is that he’s not exactly easy on young pitchers.
     
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  45. One Man Wolfpack

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    Would love McDowell back in some role besides pitching coach. Teheran loved the guy for his ability to break down tape and game plan against hitters.

    Wouldn’t let him near Folty, Newk, Touki, etc., for their throwing programs. But he would be invaluable for them in game planning.