Trumpocalypse: No hanky/lanky

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  1. triceratops

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    EU tariffs on wine are between $.11-.29 cents per bottle. 2-3 times the US tariffs on EU wine, but hardly a hinderance to sales.

    The market is also only half a billion because at least equal wine is made in the EU and can be had for cheaper even with no tariffs.

    It is at best a extremely minor point to quibble about especially when Japan and India have much higher wine tariffs.
     
  2. bro

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    I love French Wine. Don't do this to me you orange loser!
     
  3. NYGator

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    or his own shitty winery in Virginia and not realizing that nobody wants to drink that swill.
     
  4. triceratops

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    Think it is really about trying to dunk on Macron after Macron dunked all over him this weekend.
     
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    shithole kids...
     
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  6. NYGator

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    Half of health care and plane seat issues would be solved if we had laws enforcing healthier food choices and put taxes on the garbage.
     
  7. indeed

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    What we need is a series of articles about how rust belt Trump voters are feeling.
     
  8. HoosDaMan

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    Patiently waiting on Mueller...
     
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  9. herb.burdette

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    It won’t be anything like the flip of blue to red that occurred in coal country, but it could have a very real impact if the Democrats do not elect a candidate with strong labor/auto ties.

    A lot of swing voters in Macomb County will eat it up.
     
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  10. Joe_Pesci

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    ...so Trump just straight up lied?
     
  11. triceratops

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    I don’t know about lied, but certainly exaggerated and implied that EU had tariffs that were larger than they really are even if the tariffs are bigger and technically not fair.
     
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    Woah no way
     
  13. Joe_Pesci

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    Whoops, I misread the original post as the US tariffs were 2-3x as high
     
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  15. triceratops

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    Japan/EU Auto Tariff rhetoric starting to ramp up as well.

    This is the leverage point the US sees with the Japan/EU, but if it backfires car prices on US could go up $2K hurting sales and causing massive layoffs.
     
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  17. bro

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  18. Lyrtch

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    the airplane stuff is part of extending the FAA or something

    its not just people getting bigger airlines have substantially shrunk space on planes so they want to require the FAA to make minimum size requirements under the argument of flight safety in case of emergency etc
     
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  19. Lyrtch

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  22. portlandspartan

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    Don’t really see a problem here. It’s a boat. It’s in WATER.
     
  23. Duck2013

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    This like some house of card frank underwood peach shit. What the fuck are we doing here.
     
  24. Josey Wales

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    Well maybe John was an unsung hero who kept us from disaster. But from where I’m sitting, he was a lackey so fuck you, John. Go fall on a sword.
     
  25. Josey Wales

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    This is literally the most obvious thing, and has been for a year and a half.
     
  26. sflnole

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    Can confirm.

    I fly twice a week; also, not fat. The only issue I have with airplane seats is when someone with a seatbelt extender spills into my seat.
     
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  27. slogan119

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    Can it burn on the maiden voyage while packed full of Rep senators and Miss Rep Party heads?

    I don’t ask for much.
     
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  28. Rothko

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    Fair points, but if this is strictly about judging a candidate on his/her ability to reclaim white working class votes in PA, MI, and WI (60k flipped the scales), then I have a difficult time understanding how we so swiftly dismiss a guy who just won a statewide race in a Trump state that also elected a gop governor the same night. Perhaps I’m wrong, but I believe he would fare better with that specific demographic than Booker, Warren, Harris, etc.

    But really there’s no point in going back and forth on this. You’re certainly entitled to your opinion. We’ll just have to wait and see how it all shakes out...
     
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    or maybe if restaurants don’t charge $10-15 for healthy alternative meals
     
  30. dump

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    they add organic to the title and the price immediately goes up
     
  31. Lyrtch

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    it half-works in a midterm cycle

    it'll be interesting in a Presidential cycle, and unless the media learned its lesson (it didn't) it'll just lead to the challenger getting zero air time
     
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  32. triceratops

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    There is a certain cult of personality that Brown is missing that would hinder him in a national election.

    I certainly think the result in 2020 will run through the Rust Belt and that Brown could win, but think other candidates have better odds.

    Do not think Harris, Warren, Booker are the play even though all 3 like Brown could win with the right circumstances.

    Right now Biden and Beto are the safest play with Beto having the biggest upside in my opinion.
     
    #204733 triceratops, Nov 13, 2018
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  33. Lyrtch

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    Klobuchar is imo best positioned to come from (relatively) nowhere and win.
     
  34. Josey Wales

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    She is also fairly devoid of personality other than what is written for her. I do like her broad appeal, the state etc. Would somewhat stink from a Senate map standpoint; both MN senate seats would be up in a state that isn’t strong blue.

    Edit: add the same thing about Brown and OH
     
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  35. triceratops

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    Agree she is the top darkhorse and best candidate from the Rust Belt.

    Sort of a bland personality and not super liberal might make it harder for her to win the primary than the general.
     
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  36. Rothko

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    Agree on Beto, Biden’s age might hamper him—he’d turn 80 in his first term. Klobuchar has potential, but is she dynamic enough?

    My #1 concern is that Trump has a fairly strong argument (BASED ON LIES/FALSEHOODS) to use with the working class in those states: “These Dems can say what they want but I’ve actually delivered on the economy, got tough on trade, rebuilt the military, etc.” Blah, blah. Results vs. Talk angle. That resonates w/ UNEDUCATED voters WHO DONT TAKE THE TIME TO FACT CHECK HIS BS.
     
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  38. joe-

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    he hasn’t done any of those things
     
  39. Prospector

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    • Mississippi River steamboat kills an estimated 1,547 people, mostly Union soldiers returning home after the Civil War. Although this disaster near Memphis took a huge toll, it was barely noticed against the backdrop of the end of the Civil War, a conflict in which tens of thousands had died.

      The previous day had marked the final surrender and end of armed resistance by the remaining Confederate forces. Only two weeks earlier, President Abraham Lincoln had been assassinated. Prisoners of war who had been held in hellish conditions in Alabama’s Andersonville and Cahaba prison camps were trying to make their way home to Illinois. The steamboat Sultana was one of their only options.

      At 2 a.m. on April 26, the steamboat left Vicksburg, Mississippi. It was built to hold 376 passengers, but reports say that there were as many as 2,700 people on board as it lumbered slowly up the Mississippi River. It took 17 hours to make the journey to Memphis, where it stopped to pick up more coal.

      A couple of hours past midnight, the trip came to a sudden end: near the Arkansas side of the river, one of the Sultana‘s three boilers suddenly exploded. Hot metal debris ripped through the vessel and two other boilers exploded within minutes of the first. The passengers were killed by flying metal, scalding water, collapsing decks and the roaring fire that broke out on board. Some drowned as they were thrown into the water, but rescue boats were immediately dispatched, saving hundreds of lives.

      The final tally of casualties was hotly disputed. Some believe it may have been almost 2,000 people, though the U.S. Army said that only 1,200 people had been killed. Local customs officials determined that 1,547 were killed; that became the generally accepted count. The Sultana disaster remains one the most deadly maritime accidents in U.S. history.
     
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  40. prerecordedlive

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    Sorry, when did those things happen?
     
  41. BleedinGreen

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    She’s very likable on stage and is as smart as anyone in DC but I think she would struggle to build a cult of personality like Beto, Trump, or Obama that might be necessary to win. Too hard for her to sand off enough of wonkishness and nuance that will be a major liability in the mud fight that 2020 will be. Same issue with a guy like Schiff.

    Brown is a younger, more union/protectionist Bernie from a swing state but he’s a VP in waiting, not a front runner IMO.

    I would bet Booker, Harris, or Beto end up getting the nod.
     
  42. Lyrtch

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    I'm not sure Trump slinging mud at a candidate like Klobuchar who is not going to get into that will be effective electorally

    You want to just juice it all up and go straight partisan insanity you put up someone who is going to sling mud back
     
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  43. Lyrtch

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    So you mean his lies are compelling
     
  45. Crepeswithasmile

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    get the fuck out of here with this bullshit.
     
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  46. steamengine

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    Beto staying high AF since November 7th

     
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    well organic is more expensive to produce.

    Besides doesn't need to be organic. Just shouldn't be soda, sugar, and fried food to excess.
     
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  48. dump

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    YASSSSSS MY QUEENS
     
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  49. Rothko

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    Whoa I never said he did. I’m saying that will be his pitch. And unfortunately a lot of yokels eat it up...
     
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