George Martin sucks, read Brandon Sanderson Instead

Discussion in 'Game of Thrones (ASOIAF)' started by Illinihockey, Aug 5, 2015.

  1. Fidelio

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    this isn’t about you
     
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  2. Larry Sura

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    You’ll be the in the same place as Ned by the time WoW is finished.
     
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  3. Gritty Badger

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    Book 5 sucked anyway
     
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  4. The Blackfish

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    Ah the old Translator rumor. They’re all bullshit.

    This book will never be published. Move on.
     
  5. DirtBall

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    You’d be lucky to be Maester Aemon before it’s finished.
     
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  6. ned's head

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    Ts & Ps. Dallas sucks
     
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  7. 34

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    Yup. I think two years ago the German translator was told in September to be ‘ready to work through Christmas’ which made news. And we all know what happened next
     
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    His kids were able to spend their Christmas with their father?
     
  9. Voodoo

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  10. Popovio

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    My expectations at this point.


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  11. Fuzzy Zoeller

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    - Browsing AskReddit
    - Open topic "What predictions do you have for 2019?"
    - Top response: "The Winds of Winter still will not be released."
    - Die inside
     
  12. Larry Sura

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    What is dead may never die.
     
  13. RonBurgundy

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    How Game of Thrones show will end from a reddit thread:

    Nobody wins. Big bad gets driven back, for now, and time marches on. As we see the kingdoms of man go back to their ways, a closing narration, in a grim tone, says, "The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again."

    GRR Martin, 10/10 troll, reveals it was all a Wheel of Time prequel fanfic.
     
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  14. Wu

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    He needs to just pass it off to Brandon Sanderson or another fantasy writer

    For all he’s written, I can’t blame a guy for getting that easy money but I want my ASOIAF finished
     
  15. zeberdee

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    give it to James SA Corey. aren’t they supposed to be his proteges?
     
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  16. xec

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    He could hand it off and still bank.
     
  17. Mr Bulldops

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    He wrote himself into a corner and lost interest when everyone started figuring out his yet to come big reveals. Now he doesn’t want to do them but can’t figure out a way to write his way out of them. It was only exasperated when the show passed the books and started paying off those reveals itself. The book series will never be finished
     
  18. Nostradumass

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    Thanks for the update.
     
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  19. DirtBall

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    The Jon Targaryen reveal would of been the most epic if he was able to do that before the internet connected all of the dots. Between that and his Meereenese knot I think he’s given up.
     
  20. Mr Bulldops

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    He gave a bunch of nerds years between books to go over every word with a fine toothed comb, what did he expect to happen?
     
  21. You

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    Just for future reference, the word you meant here was exacerbated.
     
  22. TheGrifter

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    I feel for you George. Really, I do.

    https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/1...en-struggling-with-winds-of-winter-for-years/

    George R. R. Martin has Been “Struggling” With Winds of Winter for Years

    Posted by Mary Anne Butler November 11, 2018 6 Comments

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    Martin recently spoke with The Guardian about his upcoming within-universe book “Fire & Blood” (which releases on November 20th), and happened to mention what the Winds of Winter holdup is.


    “I’ve been struggling with it for a few years. The Winds of Winter is not so much a novel as a dozen novels, each with a different protagonist, each having a different cast of supporting players, antagonists, allies and lovers around them, and all of these weaving together against the march of time in an extremely complex fashion. So it’s very, very challenging. Fire and Blood by contrast was very simple. Not that it’s easy – it still took me years to put together – but it is easier.”

    This is not unexpected; Martin has said similar since the 5th SoIaF novel “Dance of Dragons” was released in 2011. He did say that once he’s immersed in the world of Westeros [writing-wise], the rest of the world vanishes:

    “The show has achieved such popularity around the world, the books have been so popular and so well reviewed, that every time I sit down I’m very conscious I have to do something great, and trying to do something great is a considerable weight to bear. On the other hand, once I really get rolling, I get into the world. The rest of the world vanishes, and I don’t care what I’m having for dinner, what movies are on, what my email says or who’s mad at me this week because The Winds of Winter isn’t out – all that is gone and I’m just living in the world I’m writing about. But it’s sometimes hard to get to that almost trance state.”

    He did say that Winds of Winter is his next priority though, saying:

    “The Winds of Winter is next, then I’ll decide what comes after that – whether it’s to go on to A Dream of Spring, the last one, or whether I switch back into Fire and Blood II, do another Dunk and Egg story or two. But I’ll worry about that one thing at a time – that’s too far ahead.

    Good luck, George R. R. Martin, break a quill.

    “Fire & Blood” releases on November 20th, and the 8th and final season of Game of Thrones is expected to hit HBO sometime in the first half of 2019.
     
  23. AIP

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    Fuck off george you fat fuck
     
  24. Lawnole23

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    WoW is next? It should have been first the whole fucking time.
     
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  25. Illinihockey

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    Remember the halcyon days when we thought he’d get out dance of dragons then pump out the last 2 books
     
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  26. RockHardJawn39

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    Fuck you so much George
     
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  27. Babou

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    It isn't going to happen.

    We just have to wait for him to die, and then for whoever to figure out whoever is going to finish it, and then for that person to actually finish it.
     
  28. DuckD

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    Here's a crazy thought: IF he ever actually does finish WoW, one would assume he was "in the groove" at that point, no? Instead of fucking around with other side projects, STAY IN THE GROOVE and finish the damn saga. Then do whatever the fuck you want
     
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  29. RockHardJawn39

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    A lot of bargaining in this post
     
  30. BP

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    The man is a genius but its his fucking fault not to hire someone to help him through. He knows he has probably hundreds of millions of people awaiting this story.
     
  31. Voodoo

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    He doesn't care.
     
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  32. Imurhuckleberry

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    I think he actually cares but he's just an obese elderly god tier procrastinator. The higher the pressure the stronger the urge to do anything else.
     
  33. Lawnole23

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    Anyone who is a writer will tell you that you get going and get a lot of writing down for a couple of days and then you hit writer's block for 3-4 years . Get a couple more days of brilliance then another 2-3 years of nothing coming to you about the story you've been writing about for almost 30 years and already outlined. Just how it goes.
     
  34. Nostradumass

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    I sat down in January to write a six-book story idea I'd been mulling over. I wrote five in something like six or seven months. I was cranking out a chapter a day. The books weren't big (like 13-25 chapters each, something like 50-100k words each) but I was in the zone. I was forced to stop because I had to move. It was two months before I could pick it back up and my productivity cratered. I'm still writing the last one. The end is in sight; I'm on like chapter 10 out of 14 but it's slow going. Once I took a break and stepped away, my flow and feel for the story just evaporated.
     
  35. GrizzliesDrew

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  36. Voodoo

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    That’s the thing though. He said he hasn’t outlined it.
     
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  37. Codename Duchess

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    See guys - everything is fine

     
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  38. GrizzliesDrew

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    RIP George RR Martin
     
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  39. GuyOnA_Buffalo

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    I hope he never finishes WoW
     
  40. Jesse Palmer

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    If he dies, then I can start watching the show again and not be THAT asshole who tells everyone I stopped watching the show when it passed the book.

    I've already had some stuff spoiled by random pictures/headlines on social media - but I've done a hell of a job at living in my book bubble.

    Going to be impossible with the final season upcoming. May cave if (when) I dont get a release date by the season time.
     
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  41. NCHusker

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    The good news is the show mostly sucks at everything other than production value
     
  42. Houndster

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    The books are going to be nothing like the show.

    The show has become a hate watch for me since Hardhome. There have been some decent episodes, but it’s mostly garbage.
     
  43. NCHusker

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    The show is objectively gorgeous. There's also never been another show with anything close to the budget GOT has. Those are good reasons to watch a show.

    But the writing is absolutely terrible
     
  44. Imurhuckleberry

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    Facts
     
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  45. GuyOnA_Buffalo

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    Why hold yourself to a higher standard of discipline than your favorite author? Watch the damn show. A weight will be lifted once you do. Trust me.
     
  46. NCHusker

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    There's an entire subreddit of people who choose not to watch the show like at all. It's pretty silly.

    Think it's called r/pureasoiaf or something like that
     
  47. MORBO!

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    What heroes
     
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  48. Nostradumass

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    The show would still be good if it could have gone for about four more ten-episode seasons.

    Once they decided they were ending it with a couple seven and six episode seasons, they got away from what made the show great (imo): The journey to the various destinations. Tyrion and Bronn shooting the shit. Brienne and Arya or Arya and Hound shooting the shit. Just characters walking and talking, "are you really going to die for some chickens?" / "someone is." kind of stuff.

    Now the show is just a sprint from one plot point to another, trying to tie up every loose end possible to move everyone to where they need to be to end the show.
     
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  49. AIP

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    2019 could be the year wow is published
     
  50. RockHardJawn39

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    This thread was started in 2015. Seems unlikely .
     
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