Official Canon Star Wars Thread: UNLIMITED POWER!

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  1. SugarShaun

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    Haven’t been able to listen yet but I would guess a lot.

    Typically I’ll listen for like an hour when I get to work then stop it and come back later
     
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  2. Nelson

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  3. Nelson

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  4. jrmy

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    Yes it’s my second least favorite of the three holocausts
     
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  5. Wu

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    his EU story was pretty solid, a bunch of padawans ostensibly auditioning to be Qui Gon’s padawan and them making fun of Obi Wan as “oafy one”

    I used to not be proud that I remembered these things, but fuck it knowledge is power
     
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  6. Handcuffed

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    i downloaded a cam torrance of it for a second viewing and it's surprisingly high quality considering it's a week 1 release.

    the movie is even worse on second viewing, in my view. it barely held my attention. two really big problems i had:

    - the dead speak! you're announcing that palpatine is back in the opening scroll instead of, you know, showing that? or showing peoples' reactions to that? why does fortnight get a fucking video of it but the actual movie doesn't? huge mistake there imo.
    - in the first 13 minutes, all of the following happens: palpatine is back, kylo ren killing some dudes, getting this mysterious artifact (which we later know to be a map though he uses it as such), ren using said item to travel to palpatine, palpatine unveiling his massive fleet, R2 gaining spy intel from someone in the first order, the falcon and crew hyperjumping between numerous planets to evade tie fighters. rey training with leia, and rey/kylo having their simultaneous visions during training/with the vader mask.

    again, all in a little over ten minutes of film after you get through the opening scroll. that's horrendous filmmaking and i'm not someone who is usually hypercritical of things; i can get down on the fast and furious or mcu films. the next hour of this movie feels normal - regular star wars adventure with some action - but that opening sets the tone for the entire movie and it's really bad imo. i don't understand how no one at disney forced JJ to change it.
     
  7. Nelson

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    they filmed a bunch of shit and slapped it together to hit all the happenings they wanted and give “resolutions” to different characters. But there’s no meaty plot or theme.
     
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  8. Andy Reocho

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    I will never not chuckle at Jason yelling that. As well as his “hello”’s
     
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  9. SugarShaun

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    On the GoT ones, “Qyburn?!?“ always s got me
     
  10. CF3234

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  11. Mr Bulldops

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    No, it’s perfect for what the show is. It’s a western in space. Westerns don’t have a lot of dialogue and rarely good dialogue with what it does have. It’s like it’s the man with no name trilogy but in space

    Now if you mean the volume of the dialogue, I agree. It drives me nuts how i have to turn it up to hear the dialogue and then I go deaf when any action starts. Sound editing is poor.
     
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  12. Mr Bulldops

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    I hope auralnauts continue their dubs into this trilogy (even though they said episode 6 was it). I’d like to just accept their dubs as the official Skywalker Dirtfarmer saga.
     
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  13. Nelson

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  14. VaxRule

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    It’s the formality and import of it. It isn't conversational dialogue. How many times can they say “handsome reward” or earnest use of the phrase “fear not”. It feels forced and generally at odds with the tone.

    I don’t really mind when the ugnaught talks that way as it highlights him being a bit awkward with others. Everybody shouldn’t talk like that though.
     
  15. Handcuffed

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    The Watch also did theirs yesterday:

    it's really good. greenwald is fantastic and i'll be sad if his show is bad.
     
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  16. Nelson

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  17. Mr Bulldops

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    I guess I can get that. I think the dialogue fits beautifully with the characters and the tone of the show but I can see how the dialogue would be awkward if you are looking at the show in different way (which of course you would be because no 2 people are going to view something in the exact same way).
     
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  18. Joe_Pesci

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    The episodes are 24 minutes long and the two main characters are a baby and a solitary bounty hunter. The dialogue is going to be minimal by definition. And by extension the awkward but necessary expository stuff will stand out too
     
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  19. Wu

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    The terse dialogue fits with the Mando character and the extremely western tone of the show. Plus I wouldn’t want a dude who’s 100% in a helmet to have extensive dialogue anyway.
     
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  20. Artoo

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    Say that to Werner Herzog's face, nerd!
     
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  21. VaxRule

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    I’m not complaining about the dialogue being limited. I’m complaining about the dialogue being clunky. I like that it’s limited.
     
  22. bwi2

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    stop recycling dead characters, asshole
     
  23. lazy bum

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    Ahsoka may or may not be dead, but her story hasn’t been finished regardless.
     
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  24. Wu

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    No one’s ever really gone
     
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  25. Nelson

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    The dagger protractor macguffin shaped like Death Star ruins that points the way to another macguffin is the dumbest plot device in the history of the series.

    Trade Federation is a million times better
     
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  26. Nostradumass

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    What is the big deal with Ahsoka being dead in TROS?

    That's like fifty years after we last saw her. No one is saying she died decades earlier. She could have died a week before Rey went to Exagol.
     
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  27. bwi2

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    I’m saying she died decades earlier, on Malachor (and should have stayed dead, just like Maul)
     
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  28. PeterGriffin

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    I only know how to spell Exogol because of the soundtrack. I swear I heard Excicle the whole time and I was like, what in the bionicle's shit are they saying?
     
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    I definitely thought they said Excicle the first time.
     
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  30. Handcuffed

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    i listened to the watch and the big picture pods yesterday and am most of the way through binge mode today. these are just making me more upset with the film because they're coming up with dumb things in the film that i hadn't even thought of.
     
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  31. Nelson

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    there’s so much that there’s just no way they got it past Pablo Hidalgo or Dave Filoni or anyone else with authority over/give a shit about the canon

    they surely just got sidelined after Iger gave the directive to JJ to just do fan service stuff
     
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  32. CF3234

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    Chewie got his medal tho
     
  33. chuckmasterflex

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    Sure it has been covered. But I can't get past Palpatine building a fleet that increases the First Order's power 10,000x and not installing equipment on the ships that can tell ground from the sky. Then he just lets them sit on the runway like he is Douglas MacArthur defending the Philippines.

    Star Wars does too much shit where the baddies have overwhelming power but are led by idiots and incompetent.
     
  34. bwi2

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    :babyneedabottle:
     
  35. VaxRule

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    Sending out one destroyer to blow up a planet but keeping all of the others at home base was poor strategy it turns out.
     
  36. chuckmasterflex

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    Killed that whole planet, but at least that little critter we met got off in time so emotional stakes were involved.
     
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  37. JBF76

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    I'm pretty far back in the thread, but my wife, and I loved it. I work with 3 really die hard Star Wars fans who also loved it.. So no you aren't alone in the least..

    :dealwithit:
     
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  38. SugarShaun

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    The people who haven’t liked it have been pretty vocal, for those of you that did, what did you like about it?
     
  39. chuckmasterflex

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    Seriously, if you like space stuff with 3 dimensional characters with actual motivation watch the Expanse on Amazon and read the books.
     
  40. JBF76

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    This is the exact reason I won't waste the time typing.. I liked it, others didn't. It is what it is. No one is going to change my mind, and vice versa, so why go back and forth for no reason? Nah, i'm good..
     
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  41. LuPoor

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    Pew pew!
     
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  42. chuckmasterflex

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    I didn't hate it. I enjoyed watching the movie even though my sister bought tickets for a 3d showing and that was annoying.

    It is a Star Wars movie and I'm long past getting upset over the inconsistency in the narrative.

    Do I think it is dumb that ships basically can show up wherever in the galaxy at a moments notice, when the first two movies established that the Millennium Falcon is specially fast? Yes. But establishing some rule for space travel would be too taxing for the writers of a billion dollar franchise.
     
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  43. SugarShaun

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    I don’t think anyone is trying to have a back and forth, just genuinely curious what people liked about it.

    I thought the Kylo/Rey stuff was mostly well done and hated just about everything else
     
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  44. PeterGriffin

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    Kylo/Rey stuff over the entire sequel trilogy was top-notch content. Few of the rest of the storylines were any good.
     
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  45. Handcuffed

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    i've read on twitter (a little) and reddit (a fair amount) that TROS was messy and bad because TLJ did nothing to advance the story. i can't for the life of me understand that perspective. i'm fairly convinced that a great number of the superfans who hated TLJ (and enjoyed this movie) prefer the fighting in Ep. 3 and the nostalgia of Ep. 7 to the pace and world building of the OT and say that ESB is the best movie only because that's the general consensus.

    this trilogy had phenomenal actors and the chance to tell a really unique story with lots of great elements there (the Jedi and Luke failed, Kylo Ren is conflicted, the bond between Ren and Rey is undeniable, and neither really have a master/teacher). Instead we get the same old beats as the OT (another Empire, another Sith master/apprentice, another chosen one Jedi) but it's even worse because there's no development from 7 > 9. At the end of 9 we get someone who died at the end of the OT? It honestly gets worse the more one thinks about it and is so disappointing when you consider how good it could've been with the actors involved and how good IMO one of the films was (and i'm totally fine with 7 being a nostalgia/action reboot considering how bad the prequels were...)
     
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  46. chuckmasterflex

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    That was the best part of the last two movies. The chemistry between the two actors was great, and they cheapened it by inserting them interacting, regardless of location whenever the rest of the cumbersome plot dragged.
     
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  47. ono

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    As time passes I'm angry they wasted the knights of Ren. That had potential to be an epic group of villains. If RJ didn't kill Snoke, them doing it to propel Kylo to the throne would have been great. Or if they had to do the Palpatine thing let them kill him.

    Instead they were basically the foot following Shredder around.
     
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    I don’t know enough about the Knights of Ren to know if they were wasted
     
  49. ono

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    That's a problem with the story telling. Kylo and the knights were given this whole backstory before ep.7 about following some new religion then it disappeared into thin air. Just 2 mins of screen time could have turned that around and made them intimidating. Instead they were like dudes going into the club cause their rich friend was buying bottles of Grey Goose.