i try not to judge how people grieve but if you're grieving through trying to get someone fired for a very benign mistake i'll make an exception
I'm sure it's already been posted in here, but I don't think I'd ever actually watched this until now. It's incredible.
Oh man I finally heard the audio of what she said and while I believe her explanation I can see why people reacted like that. Oof magoof what a way to implode your own career
she’s still getting dragged probably even more so than yesterday. only a matter of time i agree that it’s stupid but msnbc will get tired of the heat soon enough
I also wonder what exactly constitutes a "crash". If a plane is having some malfunction and lands, is that considered a crash? 5 a day seems ridiculously high
why would anyone think that's the case? these people are paid to speak carefully on TV, saying she actually said the N-word is the equivalent of a surgeon opening someone up, going "watch me pop this balloon!" and stabbing their patient in the lung. I don't even think it's really possible to have a Freudian slip with the N-word, it's such a deliberately used word.
It's so obviously a non basketball fan combining the two biggest team names, anyone who thinks otherwise should reconsider their life Shame she went Knickers instead of Lakes
Not sure where he got his stats from but this is a good article: An "accident" is defined as this: "An aircraft accident is an occurrence associated with the operation of an aircraft that: • Occurs between when the first person boards the aircraft – with intention of flight – and the last person disembarks; • Results in death or serious injury; • Causes substantial damage to the aircraft." Your example would be qualified as an "incident" because it was "an occurrence – other than an accident (no intention of flight) – associated with the operation of an aircraft that affects or could affect the safety of operations"
That isn't at all what she was doing. She didn't show up at his funeral. A lot of people are hurting because they have an image of Kobe as one thing. There are people, who for good reason, have a very different image of him. Just because you belong to the first group doesn't mean you get to dictate how people that belong to the second group react.
I get that but I don’t think it changes this situation. It was basically just a stupid sidebar that I was trying to end.
He was accused of rape. As far as "worst moments" go, that's pretty big. The frustrating part of this is that there are some people who will take every accusation and use it to call people rapists, and then others who would deny it happened even if Kobe had gone to trial and plead guilty because he's famous and they don't want to believe it. The truth isn't known in this instance, and I don't think anyone really knows how to address that when talking about someone's life. I'm uncomfortable calling someone who was never tried or convicted of rape a rapist, and I don't believe every eulogy on him needs to talk about it. At the same time, the accusation did happen, and the evidence we're aware of suggests that accusation had credibility. There's a massive area in the middle here, and it's going to be uncomfortable for both sides to hear the other.
9 people including children dying in a helicopter accident would have been national news if only because of the dark human curiosity in horrible ways to die, and a helicopter plummeting to earth being pretty up there on that list.
It was basically his online funeral. People were/are grieving. She's entitled to have her thoughts on him. I get it. But putting those thoughts out at that time are going to get a reaction from his fans that are grieving. That is to be expected.
it shouldn’t be expected that she’s likely going to get fired simply because she made a tweet about his rape case poor timing? probably but she shouldn’t have her life ruined over it when she didn’t say anything outrageous
A funeral is specifically the venue for celebrating that life and mourning its loss by the people close to it. Twitter isn't that. People may still show up and protest whatever funeral service the family does have (and have every right and reason to do so - America) but that isn't what she - or anyone that brought it up - did. If people had said, "please show some respect for the recently deceased, Osama bin Laden was a husband and father," you'd have called them insane. Death does not wipe away people's opinions of you. They're going to react to how they knew and remember you.
I don't feel like going back and forth with you. She's entitled to say what she wants and people are entitled to tell her to stfu too. Aside from the death threats, the rest of the response to her timing was expected and understandable.
The audience who hated her tweets wasn't going to wake up 4 days, 4 months or 4 years from now with an open mind to what she had to say. This is the same thing gun rights people do whenever there are mass shootings. It's using the grief of the moment to try to dismiss an opinion someone doesn't want to hear.
Disagree. People have talked about his sexual assault accusation for years and there was never a mob crying for people to be fired over it. The article she posted was 2+ years old and got little to no reaction when it was written.
Let's be honest here. Twitter just allows you to see everyone's opinions. I'm sure every celebrity death in the past has garnered plenty of people to think "well who cares, he was a horrible person because of x event." You just didn't get to see those thoughts in real time as you were struggling to deal with someone passing who meant something to you. Twitter allows that to happen and it's just something you gotta deal with. The egregious parts of twitter are the journalists looking to be the first to report something that is untrue. For about an hour yesterday we all thought his entire family died according to a source we’re supposed to trust. That's not okay.
Given her status as a sexual assault survivor from someone powerful like Kobe, I can totally see how seeing him celebrated would make her do what she did. Hard to judge her IMO
Right. You're telling her that she should have waited until a time when no one would pay attention to her thoughts before she posted them. She chose to post them when everyone was paying attention. You can like it or dislike it, but her thoughts are the same on both days. They're just more convenient for you and others in one of those choices. I don't think that's how life should work, but to each there own, I guess.
If it had happened on foxnews, this board would be going crazy about it. She had marble mouth for a second. Move on.
what i’m not saying she should be fired, in fact, i’m saying the complete opposite also fuck fox news
Again, she's entitled to post anything she wants. The reaction shouldn't be surprising at all, though.
what's with the facebook posts bringing up random helicopter crashes from years ago? I think I understand the point; it only makes the news when it's a famous person...but at least from the folks I've seen them from, can't help but feel there might be a little racism mixed in there.
yes, yes it is. the point was that an TV reporter, people hired to speak carefully on the air, would basically be the last person you might reasonably expect to say the N-word since the whole world has a chance of hearing it and that failing that part of their job would be akin to a surgeon forgetting what a lung is, it's simply not reasonable to expect a reporter to just blurt that out in the middle of reporting a death of all things, their job is literally to speak more or less flawlessly on TV day in and day out, those kinds of "mistakes" just don't happen. the closest you ever come is flubs that sound like cursing or something.