*** Official MMA Thread II ***

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Krieger, Apr 24, 2016.

  1. Jake Scott

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  2. theriner69er

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  3. Killy Me Please

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    His brain is mush
     
  4. Killy Me Please

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    Wrestling already dominants the sport. Don't encourage it.
     
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    Man I loved BJ Penn back in the day. Sad to see him go down this road
     
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  6. theriner69er

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    I don't agree with this at all, by the way. Just saw that he posted it.

    Reyes outstruck Jones by 12 shots. Ok. So.....advantage Reyes? What's the point there? That Reyes should have outstruck him by more?? How about the Champ doesn't allow a guy fighting his 13th professional fight to outstrike him?

    It's interesting that Jones was the aggressor and still got outstruck. The "aggressor" threw 27 strikes in Round 1. Reyes threw 59. Jones threw 37 in round 2 to Reyes' 68. 34 vs 45 in round 3. Reyes threw more strikes in every single round. How does the aggressor get so wildly out thrown?? moving forward and getting hit is not exactly what people mean by being the aggressor.

    And it's a 5 round fight. whether he didn't fight well in the 1st, 2nd, 4th, or 5th rounds is not relevant. It's the totality of the fight that's being judged, all 5 rounds. So cool, Jones won 4 and 5. But he lost 1, 2, and 3. Why do the 4th and 5th rounds hold more weight than 1, 2, and 3?
     
  7. Illinihockey

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    I hate the idea that getting a take down is automatically a huge positive. I don't know how taking someone down and them getting back up without taking any damage is any different then throwing a bunch of punches that don't land.
     
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  8. Manny

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    So throwing and missing is effective and noteworthy aggression?
     
  9. theriner69er

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    More effective and noteworthy than moving forward and not throwing or landing nearly as much? I think an argument can be made that the person throwing more strikes is demonstrating more aggression, but the person moving forward has more ring control.

    At the end of the day landing strikes and doing damage (in this type of fight), for me, is the measure of who wins a round and a fight.
     
  10. theriner69er

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    There are fighters who expend a great amount of energy to not be taken down. If that guy can go down then pop right back up, that's smarter than fighting a single leg for 3 minutes. The net effect is the same, but it's so much better to go down and get back up.

    Of course we are talking 43 levels above the average MMA judge's head with this kind of logic, but....
     
  11. Killy Me Please

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    Rogan believes the champ rounds should count more. And some more guys are on that bandwagon. Kavanaugh said if this was a fight to the death we all know who was going to win that. Reyes had nothing left in the 4th and 5th. And the 5th was really about surviving. People will be watching that 3rd round for years to come to decide this one.
     
  12. theriner69er

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    I see what Kavanaugh is saying, but if that's really a fight to the death it doesn't play out the same way. Both guys know it's a 5 round fight and (ideally) pace themselves to be able to go that long.

    It's more like claiming that it's a contest to see who is fresher after 5 rounds, as if that holds some sort of weight.

    And Jones clearly won rounds 4 and 5, but it wasn't lopsided. it wasn't like maybe a 10-8 round, he never had Reyes in real trouble. If Jones were teeing off on Reyes and Reyes was saved by the bell, yea, I can kind of see that holding some weight.

    I just re-watched Round 3. I really don't see how you give that round to Jones. he does very little. he is constantly pushing forward, but throws 1 shot at a time. little pot shots; one side kick. one jab, pawing with his lead hand, feinting. I don't think he threw a single combination the entire round. It's not like Reyes was lighting him up, but Reyes landed 2 good uppercuts, a couple round kicks to the body and head, and he also threw a lot of the single shot jabs and kicks to the legs. It's sort of a close round, but I'd struggle to make an argument that Jones won it. He just didn't do anything.

    AND if you are going to give Jones credit for those takedowns in 4 and 5, in round 3 Reyes defended a takedown. Do we give Reyes credit for that? So in addition to out-striking Jones in round 3, Reyes defended a takedown. I dunno, the more I watch it the clearer it looks to me.
     
  13. dblplay1212

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    I think I agree on this but idk how you change the scoring to make it work.
     
  14. One Man Wolfpack

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    Jon Jones preaching about others needing to take responsibility?
     
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  16. Kinghorn817

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    Anyone have a stream?
     
  17. dblplay1212

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    It's the same sites every week. Crackstreams, buffstreams, or sportsurge.net.
     
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  19. Jake Scott

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    That should be an automatic DQ.
     
  20. southlick

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    Dude should be DQ but lol at homey saying he can't see out that eye.
     
  21. spagett

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    Suck it, douche
     
  22. Jake Scott

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    It should just be an automatic DQ on something that clear and blatant.

    But Diego getting that W sees $$$
     
  23. dblplay1212

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    Yea that was lame as fuck.
     
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    Lol at "Do I win if I can't continue?" It was an illegal shit but he was looking for a way out bc he was getting his ass kicked.
     
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  27. Jake Scott

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  28. Killy Me Please

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    With a backhanded bitch slap
     
  29. spagett

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    He just doesn't want to train
     
  30. Summa

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    Lol DC can't even look Jones in the eye or say his name. Still salty af
     
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  31. spagett

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    Probably wants to poke him in the eye
     
  32. Jake Scott

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    Lol it’s him with a wig on

     
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    Nothing to get excited about, but another card nonetheless

     
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    Really fun card last night. If you skipped it, you missed an unreal main event. Go watch it asap.
     
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  35. Jake Scott

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    I thought Felder won but I’d had a lot to drink. So I need to rewatch
     
  36. Jake Scott

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  37. COVIDiskilingme79

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    I thought it was extremely close but thought Felder had it. The late takedown gave the judges the out they needed for a hometown decision
     
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  38. Jake Scott

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    Yea that’s true. I still hate how much weight a takedown is given even when they do nothing with it.
     
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  39. Jake Scott

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    Watching the Yoel/Weidman fight again and it cannot be said enough how much of a mutant Yoel is.

    His traps and those muscles in the back of his neck look like they were built in a lab. Those Cuban genetics are scary.

    I also love how Till says he's ready to fight anyone but Yoel. :laugh:
     
  40. Illinihockey

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  41. Jake Scott

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    I know its well documented but I’m still in awe
     
  42. Jake Scott

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    Just get rid of the weight class

     
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  43. MoJo

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    I checked out Josh Thomson’s podcast “Weighing In “ after he was on Rogan and I’ve got to say I really like it. Josh is ok but Big John McCarthy is his co-host and he is the star in my opinion. Just solid take after solid take and a lot of stories from his time as a ref. I think you’d enjoy it.
     
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  44. Jake Scott

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    Thanks.

    Big John did Joey Diaz podcast about a month ago. He’s amazing. He’s got all the best stories.
     
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  46. Jake Scott

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    Interested to see how Megan Anderson looks. She’s too stiff IMO
     
  47. spagett

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    Cutelaba is my roid boi
     
  48. NP13

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    What a terrible stoppage
     
  49. One Man Wolfpack

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    That's easily an all-timer bad stoppage. Wow. Just terrible reffing.
     
  50. snowfx2

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    Put them in bubble wrap now

     
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