Trumpocalypse: No hanky/lanky

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  1. AIOLICOCK

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  2. AIOLICOCK

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    Also Jesse Ventura is going to try to get the green party nom. Seems like he shouldn't be eligible, but that probably doesn't matter.
     
  3. bertwing

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    Oh no they’re getting smarter

     
  4. Biship

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    Anyone who can take votes away from Donald in November has my full support
     
  5. prerecordedlive

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    They’re celebrating this idea in the White House. Some of you truly don’t understand who the libertarian party serves.
     
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  6. AIOLICOCK

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    Okay then explain, because I'm truly baffled as to how a popular libertarian candidate is good for Trump.
     
  7. bwi2

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    Republicans aren’t defecting in any significant way towards Amash. His base is never Trumpers who wouldn’t vote for Trump anyway, but now may not vote for Biden.
     
  8. AIOLICOCK

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    Okay, do you have any actual evidence of that?
     
  9. DelapThrows

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    Exactly.

    The few GOP-ish friends still in my orbit were mostly never-Trumpers and voted McMullin last time. They have all said recently (before the Amash news) that they are voting for Biden. If Amash pulls them away from something, it's not Trump, it's a Biden vote.

    This type of candidate is not going to negatively impact Trump, just as Stein/Johnson were effectively net positives (each of them individually) for Trump last time.
     
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  10. AIOLICOCK

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    Pretty scientific stuff
     
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  12. Redav

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    The secret sauce for Trump is racism. You aren't getting that with Amash. You get conservatism that at least isn't overtly racist which is at least part of the draw for Biden.
     
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  13. pez

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    In there he talks about a poll conducted in Michigan. Head to head Biden wins by 12. Putting Amash in there, cuts it to 6. Given the margin of victory that Trump had in Michigan , Wisconsin and Pa, you want as many non trump votes going to a single candidate as possible. A potentially “viable” candidate like Amash could throw that off
     
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  14. AIOLICOCK

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    lol color me shocked that "hypothetical third candidate" draws a shit ton of votes when presented alongside Trump and Biden that doesn't prove shit.
     
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  15. AIOLICOCK

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    "Vote for OUR rapist! Also no third parties!"

    Jfc the democrats deserve all their fucking L's
     
  16. NYGator

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    You think never Trumpers who want him out of office will just say fuck it, let me waste my vote on someone who won’t win, because they are slightly closer to my ideology than Biden? I don’t think those are the votes he is pulling.
     
  17. prerecordedlive

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    Alright, cool. Can't wait for 4 more years of this bullshit when your never-Trump family members let you guys know how they are going to vote for Justin Amash instead of Biden and you guys do nothing to dissuade them because you ignored the 2016 effects of Gary Johnson and Jill Stein.
     
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  18. AIOLICOCK

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    I'll just assume my never Trump family members don't support rape. :twocents:
     
  19. AIOLICOCK

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    Imagine blaming Jill Stein and Gary Johnson for Hillary being horseshit :ded:
     
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  20. skiedfrillet

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    that's a cute moral high ground that will likely lead to a trump reelection
     
  21. AIOLICOCK

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    Yes, well, when they go low, we go high :roll:
     
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  22. skiedfrillet

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    herp i'm gonna support a 3rd party candidate again and then watch as trump gets elected and then complain for the next 4 years about the dem candidate derp
     
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  23. DetectivePopcorn

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    That’s where you think logic would take them but Amash would probably just be a mass ass saving feel good vote. I imagine they would tell you for days “Amash is the best candidate, so I voted for him. That’s democracy” but if the ticket was Biden/Warren these people would shamelessly be like “Amash may be the best for the job but a vote for him is one thrown away. I have to hold my nose and vote Trump to stop socialism.”
     
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  24. AIOLICOCK

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    Yeah, no, Biden will probably lose South Carolina because I voted for "any not rapist"
     
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  25. skiedfrillet

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    ah yes we've circled back to "my vote doesn't matter"

    you can vote for whoever you want to, but this is all strangely reminiscent of 2016. and i'm sure the melties you have over the next 4 years bc of trump being reelected will be fun to read. but, hey, at least you didn't vote for a rapist and really showed everyone
     
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  26. AIOLICOCK

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    You miss the point.

    -You don't get to credibly blame me for Trump winning because my vote doesn't matter in this state.

    -You don't get to credibly blame 3rd party voters in swing states for Trump winning because it's not their fault that the Dems literally ran a rapist with significant brain deterioration.

    -You don't get to blame 3rd party candidates for Trump winning for the same reason.

    The democrats have nobody to blame but yourselves. You have once again chosen an atrocious candidate, and that's why you're going to lose. Hopefully this will be the last time, but it probably wont. hth
     
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  27. ButchCassidy

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    Trump is literally Quid Pro Quo'ing again.
     
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  28. bwi2

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    If you identify as a Never Trump Republican, you are searching for any figleaf you can not to vote for a Democrat.
     
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    Don't get me wrong. I am not saying Amash doesn't help Trump. I just think it is a logical fallacy that the Never Trumpers will be the ones supporting him. I think it is the fence sitters, who would consider throwing their votes from Trump to Biden who will be most impacted. Perhaps Trump voters who are not thrilled by him and are looking for another choice, but don't really care about the outcome and don't take responsibility for what happens. Never Trumpers, by definition, care about the outcome. Never Trumper doesn't mean don't vote for Trump. It means don't let Trump win. Think of guys like Conway or Rick Wilson. Never Trumpers are passionate about Trump losing. They won't waste a vote.
     
  30. skiedfrillet

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    I don’t want Biden as president, but I do recognize he is the lesser of two evils. I am not a Democrat and am honestly sickened by the party, for the most part. I would love a viable third party because I think it would be very beneficial to America to have more than two parties representing our interests.

    However, I will blame third party voters, as well as democratic leaders for putting us in this position. I’m going to blame you (third party voters) for putting your own ideology over the greater good and for the fact that you’d rather throw your vote away instead of trying to vote trump out of office while bitching and moaning daily about his presidency. You may think, oh well it doesn’t matter bc I live in SC and it’s just one vote, but there are thousands of people just like you with that same point of view.

    Grow up
     
  31. Doc Louis

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    It's logically dumb to announce a third party candidacy in late April of an election year
     
  32. BudKilmer

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    I’m all in on a pro labor party that will take that sweet sweet socialism corporations get and give it to the people
     
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  33. Beeds07

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    AIOLICOCK just showing his ass on this page

    A point is made
    He asks for proof
    Proof is given that 3rd Party Candidates help Republicans
    He questions the proof
    He then turns on a baseless attack on Hillary because reasons
    He then turns out a baseless attack on Biden because reasons
    He then turns out a baseless attack on Democrats because reasons

    No wonder people keep saying you voted for Stein. Woof.
     
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  34. Bruce Bowen

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    Justin Amash is Andy Buckley in The Other Guys.
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  35. AIOLICOCK

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    lmfao
     
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    A guy I've listened to scream obscenities at children online just told ale to grow up.

    Strange times we're living in.
     
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    My buddy who owns a restaurant posted this.
     
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  38. steamengine

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    The answer is absolutely yes. Most people don’t pay as much attention to this stuff as you do and their presidential vote is just who they like the most.
     
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    During a pandemic and you won’t be able to hold rallies.

    Hi I’m a never trumper who is now super excited to have a conservative candidate who speaks to my low tax soul, and guarantees trump wins! Can’t wait to got Amash in November ;)
     
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    Never Trumpers pay attention. See my post above. We are not talking about casual voters. I agree that casual voters may vote for Amash.
     
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  41. steamengine

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    It just seems the incremental impact of those casual voters is where bad stuff starts to happen.
     
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  42. Beeds07

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    If we're basing whether or not Biden wins on conservatives doing the right thing when it matters, we've already lost.
     
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    Hopefully his exploration doesn't go very far. He has no money, no chance, and as someone stated earlier - being unable to campaign, no one will ever know he's in the race. It's a dumb move. His exploration Committee should tell him as much in no uncertain terms.
     
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  44. bertwing

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    He absolutely voted for Stein and only denies it now because of how much shit he’s gotten for it. He’ll do it again because he’s a simple boy
     
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  45. Beeds07

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    This feels like a move to get his name out there in 2024, provided we have a 2024.
     
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    Agree 100%
     
  47. LetItSoak

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    Amash left the Republican party over Trump and has been one of the few to openly criticize him. I don't agree with him on much but credit where it's due imo
     
  48. GrizzliesDrew

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    And yet, by running for President, he’ll be helping him more than any other Republican
     
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  49. Beeds07

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    I didn't have a real opinion either way on Smash until D'Souza said he was in favor, so naturally this is the worst idea in the world.
     
  50. Josey Wales

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    Which is why I think this is strictly to raise his name nationally and will peter out before the election.
     
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