i don’t think a single one of us are terrified of going to waffle house that aren’t compromised we’re terrified of being asymptomatic and potentially killing someone else hth
I didn't say to not be cautious and clean and respectful. Do you have this point of view for anything contagious?
And if someone is at risk it it your responsibility to shut your life down if they're too stupid to expose themselves to something harmful to them?
well its true. If you are young and healthy you'll probably be ok. It doesn't mean you should go out and try to get the virus, just trying to calm his fears a bit.
well considering covid kills elderly/compromised people at an insane rate, i’d say it’s a little different than me going in public with a fucking sinus infection but maybe that’s just me
If you're sick, or work with and/or generally around the elderly that's a different story. I didn't say to go out and cough on people when you have a fever or give high fives to anyone at risk.
what the fuck is wrong with you? “Cheer up dude, you probably won’t die, you’ll just be sick for a while and suffer unknown long-term consequences while you pass the virus to your wife, which will prevent her from working, and to your baby, which is immunocompromised at birth so let’s hope there are no long-term consequences there, either.” same question. Do you think, for example, any of the thousands of persons who have died after getting sick in a long-term care facility bear any moral responsibility for falling ill in the first place? Do you think they are capable of caring for themselves?
I think 5 trillion dollars should have been spent protecting them and anyone that works or is involved with their care instead of giving the country a wellfare check. Along with being practical.
here’s a fun scenario for you i’m an asymptomatic irresponsible asshole at waffle house. i’m in close proximity to another irresponsible asshole that becomes asymptomatic because of me. they interact with multiple at risk/elderly people, and they all get sick and die because of me
I probably won’t get in a car crash today but I don’t see anyone trying to make me feel better about my boss removing the seat belt from my car
ignoring all the people who are actually working in the places you want to go, who may be at risk themselves or not have the ability to just not come in contact with at risk friends or family members, on and on shows how shallow people are thinking with the "just dont go see grandma idiot" takes its an insanely dim and privileged view of how our world functions
I agree, he's right to be pissed at his boss. I hope he does find a new job where management gives a shit about protecting peoples health. That said he doesn't need to start drinking heavily due to anxiety because the odds are he, his wife, and his baby will be fine. Be careful but don't worry yourself into sickness. I'll just stop and you guys can tell him how he, his wife and baby are in imminent danger of death despite what the statistics say.
It's not like this is going to be gone this month either. Our mindset and how we interact with others has to change for the next 9-12 months at least. We are all responsible for each other's health.
like I guess i just missed the transition from 30-50% asymptomatic/presymptomatic cases being the consensus to now we're just assuming the vast majority of cases are asymptomatic
You protect the grocery store workers and other essential operations by not interconnecting them with a your entire social circle by staying at home/social distancing.
As crazy as some of these guys in here sound, they are still more sane than 40% or more of the population. Quite scary to think about.
The further right you are on the spectrum, the higher the percentage of asymptomatic cases you'll tell me there are.
i like that was initially considered a conspiracy to get people off unemployment we're seeing is just literally operating procedure for these states
It's very contagious and there is a whole range of consequences for your health. Besides your lungs (which may be damaged even with minor symptoms), covid-19 can damage your heart, liver, kidneys, and more. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...ace-ferocious-rampage-through-body-brain-toes
this seems like bad news Mutant, more contagious coronavirus strain has emerged, scientists say CORONAVIRUS Spoiler by: Alexa Mae Asperin, Nexstar Posted: May 5, 2020 / 11:00 AM CDT / Updated: May 5, 2020 / 07:54 AM CDT KRON) – A new strain of the novel coronavirus that appears to be even more contagious than the original strain spread in the early days of the pandemic has become more dominant worldwide, according to a new study, the Los Angeles Times reports. The 33-page report published on bioRxiv, a website that researchers use to share their work before it is peer-reviewed, was led by a team of scientists at Los Alamos Research Laboratory. According to the report, the new strain first emerged in February in Europe, then migrated rather quickly to the East Coast. Scientists said the new strain is now dominant around the world and it has been that way since mid-March. Scientists warn this new strain spreads faster and may make people more vulnerable to a second infection after a first bout with the disease. The Times reports the study was published recently in an effort to expedite collaborations with scientists who are working on vaccines and/or treatments for COVID-19. Last week, the FDA approved the emergency use of remdesivir, an anti-viral drug that is being tested to treat patients with COVID-19. Scientists say a vaccine for the coronavirus is probably a year or more away.
I think the CDC isn't saying asymptomatic anymore so I shouldn't have as well. People have symptoms but they are so minor that they don't realize what they have. I don't know the number because there haven't been any wide spread studies just a lot of smaller data points.
15 children hospitalized in New York City with rare condition that could be linked to COVID-19 Spoiler BY AUDREY MCNAMARA MAY 5, 2020 / 11:51 AM / CBS NEWS Fifteen children between the ages of 2 and 15 have been hospitalized in New York City with symptoms consistent with a rare disease possibly linked to the coronavirus. Health officials said the illness has features of Kawasaki disease, a serious illness first noted in children with COVID-19 in the United Kingdom. "A pediatric multi-system inflammatory syndrome, recently reported by authorities in the United Kingdom, is also being observed among children and young adults in New York City and elsewhere in the United States," said Dr. Demetre Daskalakis, deputy commissioner of the New York City Health Department's Division of Disease Control, in a public letter to colleagues Monday. According to Daskalakis, symptoms vary among the children depending on which organ system is affected, but "include features of Kawasaki disease or features of shock." All of the children experienced a persistent fever, more than half reported rash, abdominal pain, vomiting or diarrhea, and less than half experienced respiratory symptoms. He added, however, that "the full spectrum of disease is not yet known." Kawasaki disease is associated with fever, skin rashes, swelling of glands, and in severe cases it can inflame blood vessels within the heart. Dr. Dyan Hes, a pediatrician in New York City, told CBS News last week that she was "not surprised" by the U.K. report showing a possible link between COVID-19 and Kawasaki. According to Hes, children can sometimes develop the disease after a bout with a common cold, which is caused by a different variety of bug in the coronavirus family. She added that Kawasaki could pop up "weeks to months later" after experiencing some kind of viral infection or "multiple viral infections." The cases reported in New York involved children who were hospitalized between April 17 and May 1 with "illnesses compatible with" a form of Kawasaki or shock, according to the New York City Health Department. More than half of the children required blood pressure support, and five required mechanical ventilation. Those who were admitted to pediatric intensive care units required cardiac and/or respiratory support, according to the health department. None of the children have died. Four of the 15 children tested positive for the coronavirus. Ten came back negative, and one was initially indeterminate and then negative. Serology testing showed that six patients with negative results had coronavirus antibodies in their blood, suggesting they had been infected earlier. Regardless of a coronavirus test result, the health department has urged doctors with patients under 21 years old and symptoms consistent with Kawasaki to immediately report those suspected cases to the health department. Doctors are also instructed to immediately refer such patients to a "specialist in pediatric infectious disease, rheumatology, and/or critical care." Only severe cases may have been recognized so far, according to the health department. Daskalakis wrote that "early diagnosis and treatment of patients meeting full or partial criteria for Kawasaki disease is critical to preventing end-organ damage and other long-term complications."
DeWine got a lot of early National love (thanks to dr. Acton) but he does fucking suck... in case you need a reminder.