No, bad cops should be prosecuted. Local governments need to do a better job of removing officers when complaints are filed. Civil immunity protection being removed would also help address the problem. There are problems that need addressed, but again black people are at a much higher risk of being murdered from fellow black people. This also needs fixed. This country has a problem with males of all races between the ages of 18-40 committing violent crime. Are you okay with kids being murdered in inner cities and being forced to join gangs?
It’s sucks, it really does. I was sent down to the riot in SLC last Saturday night and it was pretty bad. There was a group of peaceful protestors protesting for hours with no issues, the only cops in the area were guys who’s beat the protest was going on in. Then some other people showed up and started breaking the glass windows to the public transit stations, flipped a cop car with the officer inside and eventually lit the car on fire and then the looting began. It seemed to go from 0 to 100 mph in about 5 minutes. Then bow and arrow guy showed up amongst others and you all saw how that turned out I agree with a lot of the things said, agree that those Minnesota cops murdered George Floyd and hope they burn in hell. Sucks having people see me and just see those Minnesota officers. I can be a cop and also agree that shit was wrong. I get the anger, I’m angry too. Those guys embarrass me.
The whole black-on-black crime strawman really neglects the 300 years of oppression African-Americans have endured
Legit, what would happen to you if you spoke out against your fellow cops using way too much force or targeting minorities? Do you feel like you could do such a thing? Not judging by the way, just curious to hear your thoughts.
no I don’t support any of that which is why I vote for people who actually talk about what those things are and ways we can fix it and it’s why I donate my money to causes to help people in these situations. Now what are you doing to help?
If you think about it, black-on-black Murder rates would be even higher if not for cops intervening and mowing down innocent people
Yeah it does suck to have people stereotype you because of a couple of bad apples, doesn’t it? That sounds awfully familiar...
don’t have any ill will towards you. You started this thread 5 years ago and from I’ve seen over the last year or so you haven’t been as passionate about the subject as you once were. Pretty sure I’ve interacted with you plenty outside of this thread and we have been fine it’s a thread mostly about disliking the police. If there was a 300 page thread with passionate people disliking Alabama football I doubt you’d be too interested in reading/responding to every post
Appreciate the post. Take the Minnesota stuff out and let's just talk about the fucked up stuff we've seen over the last week during protests. I'm sure you've seen them so I won't bother posting the dozens of videos of cops literally beating the shit out of unarmed people at protests. Thoughts? It's not just the killings, it's the everyday "Fuck you, do what I say bc I'm a cop or I'll beat the fuck out of you" attitude that some of these guys have. What's it going to take for the good cops to rise up and get these meathead cops of of uniform?
A little off topic but this week has opened some eyes of people around me and it’s nice to finally see. I’ve got a quiet and super sweet pta mom going to town on Facebook the last couple days on how school funding is done and the inequality it gives by tying it to property taxes.
Certain guys just aren’t able to handle that stuff. I’ll admit during Saturday I’ve never encountered anything like that in my life or career. But it didn bother me when people scream, spit and throw stuff in your face. Maybe it’s just the way I’m wired but I never felt like I was going to lose my cool. A lot of people can’t and I think you are seeing a lot of people either or deciding that isn’t the job for them or being told this isn’t the job for them.
Idk what you are talking about, the only Bama thread I’ve ever read is the Bama/FSU game thread lots of pleasant posts I recall
It goes both ways. Had a guy in the office yesterday in passing say "Man Sharpton is always at those things." I replied, "Well yea the fact you can say always when referring to funerals for black people that died bc they happen so often is kinda the problem." He didn't reply and went back to work. We've had a few group discussions about things, mainly videos, and you can tell where someone stands when they just keep their head down and don't chime in. Made me look at a few people a little differently.
If the goal was to position police officers as public servants, their response to the protests has been a master class in how to do the opposite of that. “Dominating the streets” is not what public servants do. And it’s dangerous for everyone involved (cop & civilian). And the curfews issued by governors and mayors were just as dumb. The entire point of the protests is that police are abusing their authority and killing/injuring the people they’re supposed to protect. All they’ve done this past week is prove that everyone who said that was right.
That's fair. This last week has been notched up a few levels. But I think you'll agree that the "Fuck you, do what I say or I'll beat your ass" meathead cop exists 24/7/365. That guy is the problem. Some of these deaths are just bad decision making. Not excusing them, but maybe it was a good cop that fucked up. But there's also cops that are dicks all day every day bc they have a badge and a gun and they know nobody can check them. What's it going to take for those guys to be pushed out?
Their access to a good education does not get brought up enough in these discussions. Good education improves society/communities more than anything.
I think a way cop brutality could be curbed is requiring medical expenses and counseling costs for anyone they injure to come out of their paycheck.
See, this is what you keep getting wrong. It's not about disliking police at all. It's about disliking the problems with police. You comparing people criticizing your occupation and the issues with it (which are clearly causing major issues nationally) to sports fandom provides a pretty good example of how you seem to view this stuff and what's wrong with police culture IYAM.
Or those police unions they love so fucking much could do things that actually, you know, improve the labor of cops like mental health counseling or less working hours each week instead of doing nothing but work to keep psychopaths in uniform.
Of course, Police Unions need to overhaul or But right now we have to weed out these psychopaths somehow. Preferably not by just letting them beat on protestors until we discover all of them.
There was always talk of KKK meetings held in a field between my neighborhood and the one next to it when my friends were growing up. None of our parents let us out past dark because they knew we rode our bikes through the field to get between peoples houses. None of us ever actually saw a rally with our own eyes because of this but there was always a ton of empty beer/whiskey bottles, burnt drum barrels and shit out there once in a while. Klan was alive in the Gump in the late 80s/ early 90s
It’s almost like, crime is going to be committed where an individual lives and because of racial segregation, communities are mostly made up of people of the same race. Who knew!
I'm an independent that votes over 90% for democrat candidates. I voted for President Obama in the primary and general elections when he ran for office. I'm in favor of the democrats platform on gun restrictions and background checks. All states should have laws that enhance sentences for racially motivated crimes. I support the anti lynching law the senate republicans are holding up. I'm for fixing the problem with bad cops, but why can't the problem with inner city violence also be addressed now? Why continue to wait?
Not to derail the thread, but our local school district is composed of a high-dollar area (mid-county) and low-dollar area (south county). Folks in mid-county have long wanted to split the district because they don't want their property tax money to fund new facilities for the children of farm workers in Watsonville when their kids go to decaying older schools in established areas. Then, several years ago in the wake of the Great Recession when they had the opportunity to put their own money directly into our local high school, they graded a hill and built a fucking soccer complex. Infuriating
No one in this thread is pro black on black murder you absolute fool. It’s a misleading and disingenuous far right talking point to distract from the issue at hand. They are not mutually exclusive, you can be against both murder and police brutality and racial inequality. The difference is one group is committing crimes against people and being thrown in jail or put to death and the other is getting paid vacation for doing the same thing.
Anyways, Jack Parkman, why do you think it is that so few cops speak out about their brothers/sisters who are doing things the wrong way? How come we don't see many cops stepping up in these videos online? Do you think the Buffalo cops should be fired? What about the one who went to help, but was pulled away by his brother?
What if black on black crime is the byproduct of decades of disenfranchisement and exclusion of black people by white people? Keep your third eye open, you dog whistling fucks.