CoronaVirus Disease (COVID-19) Thread : Fuck em, should’ve gotten vaccinated

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  1. RavenNole

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  2. devine

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    I was screaming it more and louder
     
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  4. Tobias

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    i remember you telling me about this stuff when we went to the ku/wvu game. killerwvu can confirm

    no one has been earlier or more vocal about covid19 stuff than you
     
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  5. pperc

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    no, he said, and I quote directly "This guy is veering off the rails quickly". that's fucking counter productive, horse shit. Andy is a shining voice. it's nearly as bad as discrediting Fauci. if he called him naive for mentioning other republicans, I would not have even given a fuck to respond.

    later, he told me to "look up how republicans handled HIV and get back to him". either he doesn't know who I am because he just jumped in or he's being a cunt.
     
  6. pperc

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    cool bro. thanks for everything you do here.
     
  7. Tobias

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    lol. luckily devine is an expert on this without being a pompous ass
     
  8. devine

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    You’re welcome
     
  9. pperc

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    i'll (or you can?) start tagging him instead when folks ask questions!
     
  10. Tobias

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    consider it done
     
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  11. devine

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    Ask me any coronavirus question
     
  12. Redav

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    Then you have to figure in cfb and MLB teams. Don't think the NFL has started yet but add them in at some point
     
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  14. TAS

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    i'm sorry i don't live in the 1950s where the Republican party wasn't an anti-science death cult. And sorry i don't know who you are, whoever you are
     
  15. pperc

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    how is Andy "veering off the rails quickly" not a hyperbolic attack on one of the people who has been the most vocal and informative on this pandemic? If you perhaps got a bit emotional and worded things poorly just fucking say so so we can move on.
     
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  16. Redav

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    This is one thing I've noticed Kemp is doing where the numbers are back dated so it always appears like your cases are trending down when they're actually not. Today's for instance...

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  17. TAS

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    His medical advice seems solid

    His political punditry is naive, at best, and in no way based in reality. More Project Lincoln/Nancy Pelosi (I pine for a different Republican president) bullshit
     
  18. One Two

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    What is Applebee’s mask policy?
     
  19. Fusiontegra

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    Took my Covid test last week and never got my results. Glad my nose was violated for nothing Brian Kemp.
     
  21. VaxRule

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    All the tweet you quoted said was that there are some people - Mitt Romney and Joe Biden among them - who would have simply followed the established playbook for a pandemic if they were president. That’s it. It didn’t comment on the rest of their respective presidencies - just the response to the pandemic. Mitt Romney and Joe Biden probably would have had similar responses to the pandemic and both of those responses would have been better than Trump’s.

    That’s all that was in that tweet.
     
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  22. Nole0515

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    So did FSU a week or two ago
     
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  23. Guns

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    Kiss that Kroger goodbye once Biden is elected and he destroys the suburbs
     
  24. pperc

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    exactly. it's the only reason i was bothered by the response.
     
  25. One Two

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    Guys can we just agree Trump is a maniacal piece of shit that has put all of his re election eggs in the economy basket and doesn’t give a shit how many people die so long as stonks go up? I think there is definitely merit to the fact literally any other president would’ve done something more but at this point it’s fucking pedantic.

    Fuck Trump
     
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    devine please advise
     
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    14,780 for texas today
     
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  28. afb

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    NBA players get results back in 12 hours. Just like hospitals here in Orlando.
     
  29. TAS

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    That is not all the tweet said, and you using that characterization multiple times is dumb but whater

    It also said: "But this disaster response is not about having a Republican for President"

    To me, that reads: 'Republicans normally handle national disasters appropriately, Trump is an exception'

    How do you read that statement?
     
  30. killerwvu

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    He kept screaming "best freshman on the court"

    Here I thought he was talking about Oscar T. Little did I know he was talking about covid
     
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  31. Tarpon Nole

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    just wait until it comes out that there is a bad batch of tests being used giving false positives. That, this motorcycle story and the labs that were reporting 97% positivity but were really only ~10%. Truthers going to go wild
     
  32. pratyk

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    To be fair, Charlie Baker is a democrat in any other state.
     
  33. Tarpon Nole

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    your obsessing over this completely harmless, and pretty correct tweet is....odd

    literally any functioning brain, non-maga president wouldve handled this better. They would’ve followed the playbook the US had, that trump threw out. Other countries followed it and it worked
     
  34. devine

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    69 lol
     
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  35. two

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    Fucking give it up dude and move on
     
  36. VaxRule

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    I literally just explained how I read that statement. I’m as down on the Republican Party as anyone and openly criticized Biden’s early campaign rhetoric of getting rid of Trump and returning to “normal.”

    But it’s still okay to point out that some things Trump does are uniquely Trumpian. His need to pretend to always be the smartest man in any room is a defense mechanism for being actually very dumb. The only people that he’s ever convinced that he was smart are very dumb people - including himself. But that posturing (and the reflexive need to support the POTUS by the rest of the GOP) is why so many people are dead.
     
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  37. TAS

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    None of those guys would stand a chance of winning the Republican nomination.

    Trump Jr
    Tucker Carlson
    Tom Cotton
    Ted Cruz

    Those are your future Republican nominees. I wonder which of those Republican presidents would handlebthe disaster appropriately
     
  38. Tarpon Nole

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    There's a whole different thread dedicated to this kind of stuff
     
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  39. Henry Blake

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    Trump has not actively done anything to squelch the pandemic. Nothing. Zero.

    He has actively:
    - set overly stringent requirements to get tested in Feb-Mar
    - according to him, told ppl to slow down testing
    - set up a shadow task force with his doofus SIL
    - commandeered shipments going to states who had ordered ppe/etc for frontline workers
    - undermined the foremost US expert in infectious disease
    - talked down the severity of the virus
    - lied about testing capabilities
    - threatened to withhold vents/ppe from Dem governors for not kissing the ring
    - ordered hospitals to bypass the agency built for (C) Disease Control when reporting data

    On and on and on.
    Traitorous timeline updated

    All of the times Trump made conscious decisions not to stop it short.


    2017



    2017
    DHS stopped running models of how a pandemic would affect the economy/infrastructure


    Jan '17 - Obama transition team ran an extensive tabletop exercise w incoming Trump officials.
    Bannon threw much of the transition documents in a dumpster, so it's not unreasonable to expect that this valuable information was also trashed. It has been reported that Trump officials generally were not interested in learning from the Obama officials, and, even if they did, many of the Trump officials in place then are gone.
    Yes. There were CDC funding cuts in Trump's most recent budget.
    https://thehill.com/policy/finance/...ef-holds-firm-on-cdc-cuts-amid-virus-outbreak

    He also cut funding in 2018
    https://fortune.com/2020/02/26/coronavirus-covid-19-cdc-budget-cuts-us-trump/

    Pandemic Response Team folded into another agency in 2018. Trump loyalists would say that it wasn't really dissolved, but direct lines of communication with the president were broken. That could have helped us in Jan '20.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...c-coronavirus-united-states-trump-cdc/608215/

    Pandemic playbook (valuable tool created by Obama) sat on a shelf during Trump admin. The folding in of the global health directorate into another agency (above) meant that some Trump officials aren't even aware of its existence.
    It could have been very valuable in Jan '20.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/25/trump-coronavirus-national-security-council-149285

    2019
    Efforts to fund national stockpile were rebuffed

    April 19 Azar comments

    October '19 Crimson Contagion report
    Ran from Jan-Aug '19 and involved officials from over a dozen agencies running a pandemic simulation.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-outbreak.html
    Report was marked 'do not disclose'
    NYT got a copy of the draft
    https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...5bd797500ea55be0724/optimized/full.pdf#page=1


    Fall '19 - Crimson Contagion report showed that we were very unprepared


    Fall 2019
    https://www.latimes.com/science/sto...irus-trump-pandemic-program-viruses-detection
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...a-prior-to-coronavirus-outbreak-idUSKBN21C3N5
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    Nov 2019
    First warnings from US Intelligence

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/int...isis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273


    ~Jan 6, 2020 - intel briefings gave warnings that the virus was headed to the US
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...ronavirus-government-dysfunction/?arc404=true
    US Officials embedded at the WHO gave real-time data to WH

    Trump Is Scapegoating the WHO — But Failed to Confirm a U.S. Representative for 3 Years


    Late Jan '20
    CDC declines pursuing virus samples from China

    Ali Nouri @AliNouriPhD Remarkable assertion today by Whistle Blower / Fmr
    @BARDA
    director: Even days after Wuhan went into lockdown, the CDC Director rejected the idea of having
    @HHSGov ask China for virus samples. Samples are needed for vaccine / drug / diagnostic development.


    Jan '20


    TX manufacturer offered to make N95s in January. Administration wasn't interested.
    "In the end, the government did not take Bowen up on his offer. Even today, production lines that could be making more than 7 million masks a month sit dormant."







    President’s intelligence briefing book repeatedly cited virus threat [in January and February]


    Late Jan '20 - Navarro memo

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/us/politics/navarro-warning-trump-coronavirus.html
    Feb 2020
    Throughout the month, Birx/Trump/Pence lie about testing capacity and their efforts to ramp it up. Overly strict patient requirements make it very difficult to get test. You have to have traveled to Asia or been in contact with a + person (which how would you know since very few ppl get tests).



    March 2020
    Toward end of March/early April, tests are being rationed so that they are still tough to come by.

    FEMA/WH are allocating medical supplies in different proportions to different states. Some states/cities get aid by virtue of personal relationships with Trump. States are accusing FEMA of commandeering medical supplies that they have purchased on the private market.



    Shortages of cotton swabs for tests become apparent mid-March. Trump waited >30 days to invoke DPA to try to get more swabs for tests



    Trump waited until mid-March to place large-scale orders for ppe (N95s)


    Pandemic playbook would have given a road map for ppe purchases and many other managerial/logistical problems.
    Dan Diamond long article re: 20 years of learning and forgetting preparedness
     
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  40. TAS

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    Yeah I recognize the uniqueness of Trump. The tendency for democrats to offer unprompted, unnecessary cover for systemic republican failures is more what I'm getting at.

    But this has gone on long enough, everything sucks and I'll stop focusing on this particular issue.
     
  41. Blu Tang Clan

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    thanks
     
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  42. TAS

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    This is the sort of boldness we need to get out of this mess

     
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  45. TC

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    Yikes. Pperc veering off the rails pretty rapidly here
     
  46. slogan119

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    He’s earned some latitude
     
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  47. TAS

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    Data/recommendations from the CDC
    vs
    Recommendations from political donors

    I wonder which will win out?
     
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  49. two

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    You did this song and dance last week. What’s with your weird obsession of calling him out?
     
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    This should cause a nationwide school employee strike