Heres that dipshit So, it also pays to vaccinate against the most-conserved epitope (protein piece of the virus that your immune system will ultimately make antibodies and such to identify) candidates of the virus, and here it seems to be the spike protein that is largely responsible for the infection in the first place. If this spike protein changes too much, the virus wont even be able to hook onto the ACE2 receptor to begin with, and if it doesnt change enough, it will keep being target practice. This limits the mutation-space the virus can operate within while still being successful. Its obviously changed enough to have dampered ab effectiveness, thats expected, so we are working on updated mRNA boosters That said, there are still other strategies viruses have to try and dodge immune systems for some time, like the MHC1 thing i posted a couple days ago. That, however, will happen entirely in everyone regardless of vaxxed or not if infected.
Hey a.tramp in general, asking questions is better than providing proof. Lead them to the right answer that way instead of spewing facts. It’s the same tactics that work for misinofmration. In some fashion, ask your MIL how many people she knows who have had measles recently or if she knows anyone with polio. Ask why we’ve been able to eradicate other deadly and debilitating viruses.
This is not like measles. Or polio. It is different. I just don’t understand as I have been brainwashed. Honestly I am kind of done with them but it is super hard on my wife.
At some point those conversations get me to this point. I’m not happy about feeling this way but yeah.
Son got a covid test and it was negative. Not RSV or hand, foot, and mouth. Dr said there's about 5 different viruses going around in young kids.
So this is spoilered as it is long and quite boring. Yesterday my wife called me while I was working and asked if I could read a text from her sister. And then if I could write a response she could read and then she could send it back to her sister. Spoiler: sister You will go to that and be around others but when I asked on the zoom weeks ago if we could be around y’all with a mask Aaron said he was unsure. And I said unvaccinated would be in the congregation and I was dismissed and told I was changing the subject. So it is hurtful to me that you will go around unvaccinated folks with masks but not your family. But that is yalls stance and you have the right. But… Spoiler: response I am truly sorry you feel that way. It was never my intent to hurt your feelings. Aaron and I just feel really strongly about the the serious of the covid situation. Verifiable statistics show that the age group of kids under 18 that is most susceptible to covid and severe consequences of Covid are those of 12 months. Levi is not that far past 12 months. We as parents made the decision based upon all the info we had at our disposal to temporarily alter our lifestyle accordingly to reflect that. We probably made the decision rather abruptly without thinking through all the ramifications but we had to start somewhere. My feelings are hurt as well. I never imagined that my family would choose to not get vaccinated in order to see my first child. I got the required vaccines/boosters to be able to visit my nieces and nephews when they were born. I, and I assume the rest of my family, got the required vaccines to be able to attend day care and school. I was confused as to why there was this much pushback from my family on this. So Aaron and I reached out to Mark to see if we were being ridiculous. Why Mark? Because he is a godly man that is familiar with the entire family and would shoot straight with us. Then, the next day you called and yelled at me. All because I reached out to someone to see if we were making the right decision as parents. I am hurt too. So the initial conversation was you pushing back on Aaron’s and my desire to find a path to limit risk to Levi and the follow up conversation was for you to yell at me. I am sorry that your feelings are hurt but it is hard for me to say Aaron and I would do much differently at this point. If we were to do anything different, it would be to have a better explanation for you ahead of time about how we were going to attempt to live life while limiting risk to Levi until he is of an age to get a vaccine or a vaccine is available for his age. Let me attempt to do that now. We are going to go to church. We are fortunate enough that we attend a church that has a mask only service. Because verifiable science shows that in an indoor setting, when all parties are wearing masks the transmission of covid is greatly reduced. Our church also has safety protocols in place for all childcare workers. We are going to go to a bible study for community. We are fortunate that all of our community group is vaccinated so we can we can fellowship with people. The group calls off study if there is even a known exposure to covid from someone in the group and does not even wait for test results. The things we are not going to do. We are not going to host or be hosted by unvaccinated people. This is not a punitive step, it is solely based on our desire to take precautions to protect Levi. If you want to meet at a park and keep social distance, I would love that. We offered the same to mom and did it once but she does not want to do that anymore because she can not hold or touch Levi. I am sorry that I assumed you would respond the same way because both your’s and mom’s desires to our parental wishes were mirror images. So it went downhill again from there. The sister called my wife and basically: ~has no interest in a meet-up outdoors with social distancing. ~it was stupid if we wanted to go to a nieces outdoor softball game because there would be unvaccinated people there and we are being inconsistent. ~said I owed her an apology as I said would look into other options for visiting in our initial facetime explaining what and why we were doing what we were doing. She conveniently is forgetting that the next 24 hours she and her mom put my wife through hell and my wife was in tears for a week straight due to their treatment of her and they have yet to apologize. ~of course brought up Satan and how we are unknowingly doing his work. ~we don’t understand the science and she does because she has an undergrad in biology, which she has not even worked in a biology field in 15 years and has been a stay at home mom until she started teaching elementary school this year (unmasked and unvaccinated and in person). ~we most likely have not been taking our deadly virus preventative vitamins and if we had, we would not be so worried. ~we are forgetting that their entire family had covid 14 months ago (of course they did) therefor they have immunity forever and their immunity is better than ours. ~we are believing the lies in the news and it is actually the vaccinated that are causing the mutations, filling the hospitals, and dying. Yes, all signs point towards a lost cause. It is hard though as it is crushing to my wife. Somehow that family managed to raise a sweet and loving and thoughtful person.
I liked O Chem. Of course my professor recycled tests year after year. Think I made over 100 in both my O Chem classes. I understood it well but the fraternities test bank made it golden.
“You guys don’t understand science, but I do! And the science is that the China virus is coming into this country through the historic streams of illegal border crossers from Mexico who are allowed in by Biden and other Demonrats and being given free cars and healthcare as part of the plan to replace all white people!”
Knock on wood the last thing my son has had was a stomach bug 2 weeks ago. I got hit the hardest out of all of us with it. At this point we’ve just had to accept that he is most likely going to catch covid, RSV, the flu or something. It feels like Russian roulette.
"please atramp we will do anything to be around our nephew. it means the world to us!" "ok get a simple shot that's safe and effective" "no not that!"
Isn’t it fun to live in a country that makes you literally play the virus version of Russian roulette with ur kids
Yeah it’s fucking great. It’s why we’re sitting on the edge of our seats waiting for younger kids to get approved for the vaccine. That’s the one loose end that I can’t tie up right now and it drives me nuts because there’s nothing I can do about it.
Anyone guilt tripping another person by tagging them with "doing Satan's work" can fuck all the way off. You're exhibiting way more restraint than I ever could.
My pediatrician when I was a kid called it “SKV” for “some kinda virus” In college we just called it Band Plague cuz we’d all get sick every football season.
You guys are my safe space to vent and blow off steam so I can attempt to show restraint, love, and civility to them. It is my hope that one day they actually see how they are talking to and treating us vs. how we are talking to and treating them and they just might have a crisis of conscience. I am not holding my breath though.
You are going to love this and probably could have already connected the dots. She is in on the Plexus grift.
I love biology with all of my heart, but the field is saturated af and a lot of dummies who got super good at filling out work sheets open book have bio degrees now.
Thank you. It is no different than what a lot of families in the US are going through right now. I can take it, it breaks my heart for my wife though.
Yep, I can believe it. A month after my daughter had COVID she got a cold and ran a freaking fever a lot longer than when she had COVID. Also gave it to me and I'm still phlegm-y.
There's a guy in my home town that's a notorious right wing nut job. Always posting crazy shit on Facebook, is the leader of the local confederate veterans group and dresses up in the costume and shit. His sister in law died of covid this week and he had this long Facebook post about how he and his wife are vaccinated and they are glad they are and everyone needs to take this virus seriously no matter what you believe. Told my fam that the government needs to hire this guy to go and speak at militia meetings and klan rallies.
Smart peoples opinions on this. Appears to contradict the other reports that a booster is needed at this point. pperc https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02046-8/fulltext