AEW / WWE thread - Real Fighting about Fake Fighting

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  1. DeToxRox

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    I agree with that. Vince knows how to do the big moment well, and I am not sure anyone can ever top him. But week to week, I just cannot fathom watching WWE programming. It’s just the same thing three times a week.
     
  2. Poetic

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    Big moments or not, the journey to them is so bad on WWE I can't care. 0 emotional investment.
     
  3. Nostradumass

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    If Suzuki-San ever smiled at me like that as he slowly approached me I would just pee myself and die.

    This has been an awesome show. Well deserved for a huge sell out crowd. 13k paid to watch what was essentially the go home show to a PPV but the company gave them their moneys worth.

    You could tell the audience loved it because they never once booed the "big match next week" promos. Those always get heat in WWE

    Wild night. Great promos. Good wrestling. Felt like watching an Attitude Era show.

    Even Jericho was at his 1999iest
     
  4. Illinihockey

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    Can’t wait to see how they handle Danielson vs Omega. Some sort of draw feels right here. Maybe a suplex double pin situation? Taking the belt off of Kenny so quick or having Danielson lose in a screw job doesn’t make sense this quick
     
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    Rampage having a 2 hour special is perfect. Squeeze every minute out of that atmosphere.
     
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    It's non title so they can do anything they want really
     
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  8. Lando Donovan

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    How does Dynamite pack a show like that and leave you wanting more? Next week is gonna be nuts. Danielson needs to win clean. I'm just hoping the match lives up to the MOTY expectations we all have for it. Omega in the ring is obviously a top 3 guy in the world, but I think his reign has lost some steam since the Bucks and the Good Brothers came along. It was perfect with just him and Callis. Putting the title on Danielson is the right move. Punk needs to jump into a program with MJF and then make the heel turn. Same with Mox. Somebody mentioned above, but a face Kingston vs a heel Mox? Sign me up. The top end guys for AEW is maybe the deepest we've seen since late 90s WWE. Danielson, Punk, Cole, Omega, Jericho, MJF, Black, Cody, Spears, Miro, Andrade, Pac, Hangman, Guevara (his pops are outrageous), Jungle Boy, Darby Allin. That is just insanity. And endless possibilities. For me, I'd like to see them work towards these programs for Full Gear:

    Danielson v Omega
    Punk v MJF
    Death Triangle v Cole and the Bucks
    Hangman v Miro
    Darby v Black
    Britt Baker v Thunder Rosa
    Inner Circle v American Top Team

    Cody doesn't do much for me. I think it's time for him to turn. I know I mentioned Mox and Punk, but you can get plenty of mileage out of them before they go heel. I think we could see some big time NJPW guys on this card as well, to start the buildup to WrestleKingdom.
     
  9. Nostradumass

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    Fully expect Danielson/Omega to end in a 20 minute time limit draw.

    And it's a non-title match, by the way.
     
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  10. Poetic

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    Kenny not losing clean, I agree with bigpig on a draw.
     
  11. DeToxRox

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    I think Kenny needs to beat Danielson tbh. It’ll make it mean that much more when Page beats Kenny. Danielson is made; a loss isn’t going to change that.
     
  12. Poetic

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    Kenny will beat Bryan when it's for the title. Just tease us with that draw, or I guess a interferrence after a good 20 minutes commercial free to hopefully open the show.
     
  13. DeToxRox

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    In my head, Kenny beats Danielson, Page beats Kenny, Danielson beats Kenny to determine #1 contender, Page beat Danielson and then holds the belt a few months, beating guys like Miro, Black, etc. MJF beats Page. MJF holds the title until they run a stadium show in Chicago. Punk beats MJF at that show, and then loses the title to Cole.

    There TK, I just gave you your next eighteen months free of charge.
     
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  14. Poetic

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    Yes, there's an insane amount of matches they can book going forward and that's forgetting guys like Andrade, Pac, Jungleboy, Sammy, Hobbs, Ricky Starks.
     
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  15. DeToxRox

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    I’m usually against trios titles, but this would be a great time for AEW to add those belts to the mix. They have so many people to use, and they have a ton of factions already established. It just makes too much sense.
     
  16. Poetic

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    I'm anti-trios since I've never seen it work out for any promotion, and while I trust AEW to do most things right, I'll pass. Don't feel titles are needed and it kinda diminishes the tag titles some.

    edit: Yearly tournament though could be cool.
     
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    This.
     
  18. Lando Donovan

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    I think you let Hangman run with the TNT title for a while. The top of the card is too stacked now. I don't think he's the guy to take it off Omega. 6 months ago? Sure. But there's just too much there for now, I don't think he would shine like you would hope. But a nice run of beating Miro, fending off Starks, Hobbs, Andrade, heel Cody, heel Mox? That makes sense for him at the moment. MJF, Punk, Danielson, Cole, Omega, Black should be the guys in the heavyweight title scene.
     
  19. Nostradumass

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    No way. Page is definitely taking the title from Omega. If there's one thing AEW is committed to more than anything else, it's paying off a long storyline and Page winning the title has been in the cards from day one. He was basically the guy they picked to build from midcarder to main-eventer that can carry the company. His storyline has been building to nothing else but beating Kenny Omega for the title. As soon as he comes back, that's the main-event story, imo.
     
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  20. Nostradumass

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    reminder that next year Dynamite moves to TBS and AEW will run four supercards on TNT at various points throughout the year. The Arthur Ashe show next week is basically a preview of what it'll look like. So while there are only four PPVs to go around, there are four more big events to pay off angles, change titles, etc.
     
  21. Illinihockey

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    I’m all for letting Kenny and Danielson have multiple time limit draws then finally have a no time limit, no DQ match. You can really build this as the two best wrestlers in the world being evenly matched and make the payoff huge
     
  22. fsugrad99

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    Dark Side of the Ring is back tonight
     
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    I kept getting clips of this on Tik Tok and finally just streamed the first two seasons, just finished the Dr. D episode. So good.
     
  24. Illinihockey

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    I think I have the dynamite kid one and one more to catch up on still
     
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    I'm a fat faced dipshit!
     
  26. zeberdee

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    did they say which one is tonight? I can't wait for the plane ride from hell.
     
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  27. DeToxRox

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    That’s the one
     
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    With the return of the series tonight, here is the broadcast schedule for Dark Side of the Ring's Season 3B:

    9/16/21 - The Plane Ride From Hell

    A private 757 flight descended into a nightmare as intoxicated wrestlers clashed with their flight crew, erupting into one of wrestling’s most infamous scandals.

    9/23/21 - The Double Life of Chris Kanyon

    In a culture that celebrates machismo and negative gay stereotypes, wrestling innovator Chris Kanyon kept his own sexuality a closely guarded secret for decades.

    9/30/21 - Blood & Wire: Onita's FMW

    After Japan’s Atsushi Onita created FMW and its spectacular matches featuring explosions and gratuitous gore, his handpicked successor took his own life while drowning in debt.

    10/7/21 - Bikers, Bombs & Bedlam Johnny K9

    Johnny K9 led a double life as an in-ring brute and the leader of a biker gang implicated in drug trafficking, the bombing of a police station, and a gruesome double murder.

    10/14/21 - The Many Faces of Luna Vachon

    A striking villain in the ring, Luna Vachon was a groundbreaking physical performer who battled mental illness and addiction while seeking to champion women's wrestling.

    10/21/21 - Extreme & Obscene: Rob Black's XPW

    XPW merged Rob Black's passions for hardcore porn and deathmatch wrestling, but after he waged a war with federal authorities his empire imploded.

    10/28/21 - The Steroid Trials

    In the mid 90s, wrestling was rocked by accusations of rampant steroid abuse. With star witness Hulk Hogan, prosecutors set out to prove that Vince McMahon was the one responsible.
     
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  29. Illinihockey

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    Very excited for the Onita one. Wish they would do a king of the death match one or just one on mick foley/Terry funk in general
     
  30. fsugrad99

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  31. fsugrad99

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    Remember 3 wins in a row is a streak
     
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  32. Nostradumass

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    Next Monday is Green Bay vs Detroit with the Manning Bros on commentary again.

    Next Wednesday is the biggest wrestling show on network TV in a decade or more.

    Gonna be really interesting to see the numbers.
     
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  33. DetroitNole

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    Is that meant as you think that's some sort of prime time game? Both teams looked like they could be two of the worst in NFL in week 1
     
  34. Nostradumass

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    No doubt but it's likely to do big ratings.
     
  35. Sanjuro

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    Probably before your time but there was a best of seven series for the NWA (WCW) US Title back in the late 80’s between Magnum TA and Nikita Koloff. Nikita really couldn’t wrestle worth a shit but he pulled off the best Russian gimmick and Magnum was the hottest face wrestler in the South.

    This finished up right before Magnum got into a car wreck in real life and was paralyzed. Nikita won the first three matches, Magnum the next three. Then the final seventh match was as hot an event as NWA ever had. Nikita won by hitting him with his Russian chain and taking the Title. I always thought that this best of seven type series would be perfect for two great wrestlers to keep the feud going as long as possible on television. I wouldn’t be surprised if AEW with Cody’s NWA roots from Dusty would try something like this.

    http://www.midatlanticgateway.com/2016/08/nikita-wins-us-title.html?m=1
     
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  36. Illinihockey

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    Watching all of the dark side of the rings and I think it might actually be immoral to watch wrestling
     
  37. DetroitNole

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    I mean there is not much difference between them and Carneys really.
     
  38. fsugrad99

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    This poor flight attendant
     
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    Lol this is hilarious
     
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    Flair is a piece of shit
     
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  42. DetroitNole

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    Hall too
     
  43. Nostradumass

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    At least Hall cleaned himself up.

    Flair is just sad.
     
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  45. DetroitNole

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    Hilarious that Hennig got fired for fighting Brock, but nothing happened to Flair who committed a sexual assault. Crazy double standard
     
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    Also what the fuck is wrong with Dreamer? Totally downplays Flair issues saying "I guess someone was offended", then basically says she shouldn't have taken a settlement if she wanted to tell her story, and then this

     
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  47. Nostradumass

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    Sure feels like AEW was/is setting up for Flair to be Andrade's new manager.

    If they do that now...nevermind how bad it would be, I think it would get lots of boos and crowd hijacking. They don't need that kind of anti momentum right now
     
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  48. jrmy

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    Ric Flair is teflon and only marks watch DSotR anyways
     
  49. DeToxRox

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  50. DetroitNole

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    Well I'd argue the crossover of "marks" who watch DSotR is pretty high with the people watching AEW.

    You could also tell that JR wanted to say more about the Flair situation but knew he shouldn't because it's Ric. It's almost like guys are too scared to talk about him