Curious why the school didn't force the issue Ave remove him that day prior to everything. Can only assume the school/admin was spineless and gave into the parents as usual or he has an IEP. Not sure why his backpack wasn't checked right away by the parents and school.
“Sure they’ve already fled justice once necessitating the involvement of US Marshals. But I think we can let them post bail.”
I'm not even that mad at the parents because I'm pretty sure behind every school shooter is a really shitty set of parents but the failings by the administration of the school and the district is beyond infuriating. this kid did everything short of get a bullhorn and announce he's coming to class to shoot people and nobody did a fucking thing about it. why even have the policies in place if you're either not going to follow them or they're so toothless they may as well not exist? in any other reasonable country on the planet that kid is removed from school immediately, the police are called, and they're checking his mental faculties ASAP. this kid is searching for ammo and drawing cartoons of dead classmates and they go "lol just stay inside the lines next time, you little scamp" like a bunch of fucking jerkoffs.
Oh, you can be mad at the parents too. This is systematic failure of this countries problems from the top down. Guns, reckless aggression of gun activist, politics, mental health, money into our education system, etc.
but it's redundancy. of course, people are mad at the parents just like they're mad at the kid because well duh, he murdered four people. but all the administration had to do was search the locker and backpack and this literally never happens. it's probably not even a blurb in the local paper, just some white trash fuckup getting caught with a gun in school, I bet that happens all the time and we never know. instead, the administration does nothing and people are dead.
sure but i think you largely just try to get too cute with your takes and miss very obvious things also disagree that bad parents are behind every school shooter
I don't really think it's "cute" to just say if the school had followed any sort of sensible reasoning they'd have found the gun (they absolutely had cause by then to search and I think this will come out in the aftermath that it was a massive failing not to do so) and then you go from there. to just go "meh, he'd have just shot up the school later" is you being cute, honestly.
We've literally seen it happen many times where schools know this is a chance but we have no mechanism to keep guns out of the kids hands
The specific failings of this case (if what’s been reported turns out to be true) are especially appalling. That doesn’t change anything about this event being a result of a more broad societal failing. But it is important when establishing liability for any impending civil suit.
just a hopelessly fucked society where weapons of war like this are some sort of posh fashion accessory or lifestyle brand. I can’t figure it out for the life of me why a picture like this appeals to anyone and the fact that it does sends me to a pretty bleak place tbh.
It says “at their school” which implies they are from Michigan unless we missed a school shooting in Kentucky. That assumes they are from Kentucky and not Michigan.
it wouldnt be long until the internet tells you that it used to be a hillary clinton 2008/2016 campaign office
That’s as much firepower as some ISIS terror cells. That photo is taken in another country, and it’s flagged for the Department of Homeland security. But here, it’s printed on Christmas cards. Smh.
At the very least it’s awkwardly worded. I read it as if the people in the picture where somehow connected to the recent school shooting. IMO it’s intentionally misleading.
I’m not caping for the school system in this situation necessarily, but some of y’all assume it’s easier for a kid to get kicked out of school than it actually is. My wife’s school has a kid that has thrown objects at administrators, walks out of class and wanders across campus through out the school day, to the point that they have to have an administrator tail him a large percentage of school days to make sure he doesn’t put himself in harms way, etc. My wife came home with scratches and bruises on Friday from him on a Friday, and they are just now getting options to move the child to an alternative school and this has been going on for months. I don’t think this is a unique case either. Is there some culpability from the school system in this case, sure sounds like that’s possible, just understand there are some pretty challenging things that happen in schools for administrators where they get minimal or no support from district level resources.
It really isn’t though. Just read the sentence - “four kids” is the subject not “the people in this photo.”
Correct. Parental rights in schools go a long way, admin usual bend over for them, and IEPs/special education students/students receiving services make it hard to just kick a kid out and often times a parent refusing so ends that notion on the spot outside of a crime being committed or police being called. There still was a failure along the lines of not checking his possessions etc
maybe I’m misinterpreting because that story is so recent i don’t understand what the picture has to do with that shooting as opposed to all the other recent mass shootings.
I think that most people aren’t saying the school should have expelled the kid. They’re just saying that at a bare minimum, they should have sent him home for the day or searched his bag/locker (if what the reports are saying is true).
I also didn’t realize who it was. I would have understood a congressman tweeting that out after a school shooting is disgusting.
i’ve read that the school was requiring he be evaluated within 48 hours of their conference. if they really made that determination about his well-being he shouldn’t have been on campus until this evaluation took place. that’s a pretty standard policy.