CoronaVirus Disease (COVID-19) Thread : Fuck em, should’ve gotten vaccinated

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  1. a.tramp

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    “We have successfully throttled immigration”

    “No one wants to make my burger for minimum wage anymore”
     
  2. Can I Spliff it

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    Yeah. There are mixes of studies from surveys to regular systematic check ups to patient record data mining, that go on for months, and ranges from fatigue to new sensitivities to medicines (which i dont remember if were onset from a mild case or hospitalizations)

    Anecdotally I've had a bunch of coworkers and friends get months long fatigue (one finally got recovered after like 8 months) and brain fog, and maybe 2 with ongoing taste issues.

    Heres one meta study
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34945213/

    Its a wide range. There are a lot of attempts to quantify it but the most concrete efforts are seemingly those following hospitalizations
     
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  3. Lyrtch

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    fauci on hayes was interesting
     
  4. fucktx

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    “We don’t have enough tests”
     
  5. shaolin5

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  6. PeterGriffin

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    Something about the health of the MS people and the funding for the MS healthcare system has me wondering about these metrics on a national scale.
     
  7. shaolin5

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    I think the first statistic was Mississippi. The rest is everywhere else
     
  8. NoNatty

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    I have had COVID twice and three moderna shots. I can’t ever remember being as sick I was with each of the shots, literally lying in my bed for 30 hours hoping to die and didn’t feel back to normal for 5ish days.
     
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  9. Jack Bauer

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    I just popped Tylenol and got on with my day.
     
  10. Can I Spliff it

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    On a vaccine that works on all coronaviruses (coronavirii?)
    https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/pan-coronavirus-super-vaccine


    Lol if true




    That's interesting. A pretty large canvas is available to mutate from in the spike protein, though weeks ago iirc there were about 4 particular sub-types of omicron with appreciably different spike proteins- that was early days though, considering the mass infections the past 2-ish weeks. Maybe those are like attractors and we're closer to some evolutionary dead ends?
     
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  11. afb

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    What he's saying there isn't really wrong, but that's not the issue.

    It's the CDC coming out and saying "just isolate for 5 days" which is the only part any of this that will get through to the masses. There will be a % of people who hear that and isolate for 5 days after an exposure w/o testing and then be shedding it out in the public 2-3 days after that 5 day period since it wouldn't have replicated fast enough and that 5 day period is too short. There is also a % of people who won't even know about the "if asymptomatic" or "wear a mask for 5 days after your isolation" parts.

    I hate corporate america shit, but someone should just make some flow charts for this instead of paragraphs bc people will always just read the headline and apply that.
     
  12. Can I Spliff it

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    I shouldn't have had coffee so late

    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/ne...accine-india-approval-houston-tx-16733746.php

    The vaccine is the result of two years of effort by Hotez, his research partner Dr. Maria Elena Bottazzi and their colleagues at Baylor and Texas Children’s to create “the World’s Vaccine” to hinder the spread of COVID-19 in countries that lack the United States’ resources.
    ...
    “Even pre-pandemic, we’d written and proposed an idea to the National Institute of Health … about making a multivalent universal coronavirus vaccine even before SARS COV-2 erupted. And we were turned down. We were told it wasn’t innovative enough,” Hotez said Tuesday, laughing. “And it’s true, it’s not very innovative. But it works. And you can make it and vaccinate the world.

    “Everyone talks about global equity. It took a small research institute in Texas to really practice global equity,” he said.

    Hell fucking yeah
    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rel...ncy-use-authorization-in-india-301451215.html


     
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  13. Beeds07

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    I’d love for some epidemiologist to walk up to Rodgers and give him his opinions on why he keeps throwing to the wrong guy based on film he watched. Stay in your goddamn lane you dumb ass jock.

     
  14. pperc

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    I’ve heard this story about 100 times already. My good friend told me today he tested positive on 23rd. He’s been feeling awful, spiked a 104.7 fever one night. Asked if boosted, he said, no 2 weeks ago he went to rite aid for a flu shot and a booster. They advised (like idiots) that he only get one and then come back in 2 weeks. He’s got an infant so he got the flu shot. Well, guess what happened in those intervening 2 weeks rite aid you fucking twats?
     
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  15. Tobias

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    i got the flu shot and the booster same day but that's just cause i'm built different
     
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  16. Tigers

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    Is this saying people who get omicron do not produce omicron antibodies?
     
  17. El Tiburon

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    Yeah, I blame myself for it. Like I said, I got a little cocky after covid hit my wife and son in August and I didn't catch it. Plus, I'm as close to certain as can be that I actually had covid in late January 2020 before there was really any testing for it. Figured I could put off the booster for a convenient time. Once omicron went wild we were nearing the holidays and I thought I could just wait until Christmas was over and do it this week since work is a ghost town and I could afford the side effects. Still, I'm glad I was otherwise vaccinated because my symptoms were limited to the feeling of a bad cold, headache and tiredness for about 2-3 days. I feel pretty good today, and my guess is that if I hadn't been vaccinated I would have been in for a real bad time.
     
  18. Henry Blake

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    lol :americafuckyeah: :facepalm:
     
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  19. Jay Jay Okocha

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    This is good for at risk but I don’t think it’s sustainable to be trying to boost the population with a vaccine that wanes in 10 weeks. I think we probably got there in time with the boosters for the at risk though here in the West which will probably help the death rate stay low as well. This issue will largely be out of our control as this variant has beaten boosters to the punch infections wise and we are going to have a huge % infected with this.
     
  20. Josey Wales

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    Testing and the anti viral pills seem like the future if vaccines can’t last more than a year.
     
  21. Pharm

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    it will be all three, let’s not act like vaccines won’t get better either
     
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  22. Can I Spliff it

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    Not a detectable amount if any. Tbf this isnt an omicron-specific finding. I think the cdc found this to be the case with many covid variants, more often with young-ish women
     
  23. Jay Jay Okocha

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    Mass self administered testing and isolation like this won’t be sustainable. Omicron will probably tip many to not caring anymore I think as we are likely all going to get it.



    Maybe rapid tests will be used to get into aged care and hospital facilities.
     
  24. Champ

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    Well that fucking sucks.
     
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  25. Henry Blake

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  26. Lyrtch

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    people should watch this interview imo
     
  27. Josey Wales

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    And that was kinda the prevailing assumption of covid in general. We’re all getting it at some point in our lives
     
  28. Lyrtch

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    this thread isn't remotely coercive
     
  29. Josey Wales

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    I will later but can you clarify // only 1/3 of ppl who should isolate have been?
     
  30. Lyrtch

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    what do you mean clarify?

    yes lots of people who are supposed to isolate by CDC recs just don't, i mean we all read the threads about family members having symptoms or being positive and still doing shit
     
  31. Josey Wales

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    Thx. Meant confirm ppl are literally just being negligent and not in context of something else said around it. Wow.
     
  32. Lyrtch

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    cdc recs used to be like 14 day isolation with no test but known exposure

    a 10 day isolation period for a positive PCR test despite no symptoms and potentially already past the infectious period is a tough sell

    im glad the CDC is taking into account more social behaviorism in their guidelines than the historically just hyper conservative public health official calculations
     
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  33. afb

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    We should definitely be catering guidelines to people who already don’t care about them
     
  34. beerleagueman

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    State Farm is loyal
     
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  35. Pharm

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    Even with the close contact with everyone from my SiL not one other person has tested positive. Crazy, every is vaccinated but my son but one only gas J&J only, my wife and I are boosted, and her parents are double pfizer. MiL is symptomatic but has 3 negative tests on day 2, 5 and 6
     
  36. Pasta88

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  37. Tobias

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  38. El Tiburon

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    Helping kids after they're born is communism, bro. So is aborting them as fetuses.
     
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  39. One Two

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    Can someone explain in layman’s terms why people aren’t producing variant specific antibodies after natural infections?
     
  40. Lyrtch

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    this is hopelessly reductive
     
  41. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Perfect reply
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  42. Henry Blake

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  43. pnk$krtcrÿnästÿ

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    sure, I get this and understand it may well be true, but there are also tons of reputable sources at places like CHOP that chalk the lion's share of these up to incidental +s.

    Again, in the age of rapid genetic sequencing, it's dumb AF that we can't get a clear fucking answer to the question "are these hospitalized covid patients sick or not?"
     
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  44. Josey Wales

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    I love how we’re two years in and wrapped up in the complicated nuance of the virus.

    I still think back to one major party intentionally lying about the initial covid infection. We’re a weak country for not boiling them in a cauldron.
     
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  46. Illinihockey

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    matter winter break, omicron is going to burn through the schools
     
  47. pperc

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    Can’t last more than a year? What’s that based on? You also need to define “last”.
     
  48. AptosDuck

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    Maybe we're just not hungry enough