Please take my posts to be the musings of someone who doesn’t think their opinion is that of Internet virologist or healthcare policy expert - If the vaccine becomes an annual like the flu then people will get it. Over time I’d guess things level out to be that, but I can’t picture enough of the public getting 6 month boosters indefinitely.
Not knowing the long term implications makes this so fucking challenging. Hey CRT may turn your kid into a radical gay lefty. SHUT IT DOWN COVID could have all sorts of long term health consequences. OK LIBTARD So indoor sports should definitely not be allowing crowds.
If the bar is infection, then maybe 6 month is needed. But that’s not even the bar for flu. If the bar is going to the hospital you may never need another shot until you’re very old or a new variant emerges.
beginning to reach a breaking point with my feed being inundated with twitter MDs using the Thread Emoji to start some long tweet thread.
Sounds not good if you’re unvaxxed. I’m saving my thoughts and prayers for people who are vaccinated and never voted to elect Tommy Tuberville to the senate. I hate creating a moral hazard of sympathy.
Sadly I don’t think that window has closed for reporting. Big cities in California haven’t reported yet last I looked. Close to 30k yesterday and only roughly 12k today. I would imagine it will look more like Florida & New York with over 40k once finals are in
I'm almost certainly free and clear based on lack of symptoms and consistently negative antigen test results, but I've been waiting on a PCR result from Thursday and I now find myself in the unfortunate position of hoping the testing co/lab don't get a dime out of my insurance co. Look what you did to me, you bastards!!!
Well try That’s the equivalent of over 1 million positive daily tests in the US and our positivity rate was 50% 2 days ago. That is all with; - 94% fully vaccinated over 12 - 50% of adults boosted - mask mandates everywhere - Vaccine passports - pub closing times of 8 and strict WFH advice We ain’t stopping this one but our public health bods are still coming out with useless info on hand washing. France also just blew 200k cases (roughly 1.4m in US terms) today too. At least we are vaccinated though unlike Bama.
Hung out with my friend today who is on the Moderna leadership team. This was well said: “Need to not call it a booster. It’s simply part of the primary vaccination series like any other childhood vaccination series.”
What’s the conventional wisdom for those who had first two shots, then omicron? When is a booster recommended?
Are they? All I see is "lab confirmed covid-associated hospitalizations," but I see no specific description onbthat page that indicates that covid is the primary diagnosis
Don't know, playing with the website. Closest immediate relevant thing seems to be playing with the underlying condition categories that separates out pediatrics but its only updated through october. Yale's covid-net homepage looks to have a paper on severity of disease statistics for covid in children but only with march-august analysis
reading the description under that graph, it makes it sound like that graph is the opposite of what he thinks it is. Basically says "yes these are patients in the hospital with lab-confirmed covid."
It’s the truth from an immunological perspective. In fact, 2 shots within 4 weeks of each other probably was a fine short term approach given the circumstances but if you would have preferred they take 6 years to develop a vaccine, the dose and schedule could have been worked out more to your liking.
No I think they’re awesome I’m just saying that if vaccines go away so does literally 100% of their revenue
The comment was about a 3rd dose just being required for long term durable protection, vs calling it a “booster” as if the first 2 shots are fine and the 3rd is optional. From a speed perspective it was 2 and let’s fucking go, but scientifically the 3rd does make a huge difference as we see with Omicron, despite the 3rd not being specific for Omicron. It’s really just basic immunology for the need to space out the doses more to build that durability/memory. They are a 1 product company today, of course. That product isn’t going anywhere any time soon. Also, plenty in the pipeline and plenty of cash now.
Agreed should’ve been marketed better to the public. Lots of vaxxed ppl I know waited on the booster. Myself included. And that’s compared to me getting vaxxed the first day i was eligible.
Besides the Army’s pan-coronavirus vaccine, are there new Covid vaccines in the development pipeline that are expected to imbue longer lasting protection than the first gen mRNA jabs? Some may accept an annual shot, but I suspect most Americans will grow weary of that quickly. I’m incredibly thankful we have what we have now, but imagine in time more durable protection can be achieved.
Most vaccines arent old enough for that. Nasal spray vaccines may be more inviting than shots for the public but their effectiveness, short and long term, havent really been measured in trials yet
I waited diligently to become eligible for my first vaccine. Took my dad to Dodger stadium in February, meanwhile I had to wait until 4/15 to get my first shot. I didn't want to jump the line and prevent someone else from getting their shot. When the booster became available in November, my dad and I got our shots together. I felt no guilt fudging my need at that point because the supply was plentiful here in SoCal.
this seems to be a hot topic among people in the hospitals but hasn't really broken through to the general public yet between vaccines and seemingly omicrons decreased severity the # of covid positive vs incidental covid findings really really needs to be parsed out or everyone is flying blind
Agree. Either that data isn't being collected, or it's not being shared. Whatever the case may be, some/many public health folks are on some kind of weird crusade to ensure people stay good and scared, and they're content to continue posting decontextualized, cherry-picked figures showing hospitalizations/deaths going up. You can tell they didn't get much training in behaviorism in their MPH schooling. And this bizarre inertia preventing anyone from exercising a reasonable modicum of hope. The picture's becoming clearer everyday: omicron is milder. We're vaccinated, and it's less virulent. Some weird superstition or something preventing folks from just having a taste of optimism once during this hell. 'Doom cult' is a real thing. Children's hospitals are full AF due to an absolutely terrible RSV season and influenza gaining a head of steam. In MN, where now >50% of cases are omicron, hospitalizations and cases are mercifully going down after just getting brutalized by delta for months. But the real challenge remains: our community is just so goddamn sick with absolutely everything. At some point, not now, but someday, we're gonna have to retire our addiction to covid dread and re-prioritize the many other epidemics that are now beyond critical mass.
Got my third Pfizer shot mid November. Wife got hers early December. We’ve both got it now. Fairly mild but my body aches have been the worst part.