Would another country have a chance of shooting down/intercepting one of these test rockets, given the relatively short distance they travel, and if so, would it be an act of war?
Someone please correct me if wrong: if NK would be dumb enough to launch a preemptive strike, which they aren't, you have THAAD, Aegis Cruisers, Patriot Batteries, and GMD all ready to shoot down anything coming our way (allies included) if the trajectory is judged to be a direct threat to our country or allies, they'll engage it almost immediately. If a rocket's trajectory would be deemed hostile to the US or its allies, I'd assume the following would happen: attempts at intercepting it or them and strikes against NK. There's really no decision tree to those two.
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Great reply, but I was referring to the actual tests - could we shoot those rockets down, and how would that be perceived?
Think it boils down to: yes we have the capability of shooting down the test missiles depending on where they are, but never would unless it/they are deemed a threat. Most test missiles are launched out to ocean as well. Should be noted that two test trajectories were launched directly over Japan. This prompted the Japanese government to broadcast warnings on its nationwide emergency network, urging the populace to take cover. On the otherside, missile defense systems aren't 100% guaranteed. Take the GMD for example: it's batting record isn't the greatest. If you shoot down a test missile/missiles and are successful, your allies think it's a 100% fool proof system. If you fail at shooting down a test missile/s, NK gets the notion that you're not invulnerable and that they now have the capability to reach successful launches. Hypothetical: say one gets too close, I'd assume we'd interpret it as a hostile action and would act accordingly, regardless of NK intents. NK would likely do the same.
Another great reply. I never considered what would happen if an interception failed. You are a fountain of knowledge, Sir.
We do flight tests all the time testing aegis (medium range) and gmd (icbms), so it wouldn’t really prove much. NK can go look them up on YouTube. Also SM-3’s are expensive af and most naval captains are hugely protective of what they have in their vertical launch systems, since you can exactly for reload on the fly. So no one is going to want to waste a really expensive asset and have one less bird. SM-3 and EKV intercepts are also really complicated. Requires a lot of assets strategically placed, all communicating with each other.
Latest Desperate Kim Jong Un Pleads With Citizens to Make More Poop January 12, 2022 Pehal News Team 0 Comments Illustration by Elizabeth Brockway/The Daily Beast SEOUL—North Korea is inserting as a lot emphasis on producing manure as it’s on firing missiles, and it doesn’t matter whether or not it comes from folks or animals. While test-firing two missiles in lower than per week, North Korea has been waging “the battle for manure,” which is much extra important for common North Koreans than the splash of one other test-shot into the ocean off the east coast. The quest has reached disaster stage over the previous two years as fertilizer virtually stopped coming in from China after North Korea’s chief Kim Jong Un closed borders on the outset of the COVID-19 pandemic. And then, final March, the North refused donations from South Korea whereas demanding an finish to U.S. and UN sanctions. Spoiler How Kim Jong Un Became the World’s Most Bloodthirsty Dictator The urgency of the hunt “doesn’t sound like ‘BS’ to me,” Victor Cha, who’s answerable for North Korea points on the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, informed The Daily Beast. “It’s an interesting commentary that ‘smells’ of how serious the crop situation is without the annual fertilizer shoveled out by South Korea.” And it’s all occurring, stated Cha, whereas “we are constantly digging ourselves out of the crap created by the latest North Korean missile launches,” most lately on Tuesday. Just to be sure everybody will get the necessity to produce sufficient excrement in a rush, in accordance to Daily NK, which displays North Korea from contained in the nation, entry into markets is closed to those that fail to fulfill their quotas. With manure, not missiles, rating as “the first struggle” for the brand new yr, stated Daily NK, authorities have been “essentially pressuring people” to qualify for a “manure pass” simply as South Korean residents want “quarantine passes” certifying they’re vaccinated towards COVID-19. Quotas for producing manure vary from 200 kilograms for every family t0 500 kilograms for everybody working in state factories, Daily NK reported, however folks did get one break. Markets this month started opening an hour later within the afternoon, from 3 to 5 fairly than 2 to 5, to give “an extra hour to produce manure.” How individuals are to contribute a lot manure in a rustic the place animals are in brief provide isn’t clear, however the time period “homemade” comes up steadily in reviews within the North Korean media heaping reward on efforts to unfold sufficient manure ever since sanctions and COVID-19 started significantly slicing off provides from China and South Korea in 2020. “Homemade” by definition covers manure constituted of excrement of any form, human or animal, along with weeds, rubbish and even ash wealthy in chemical substances. Presumably oxen, on which farms usually rely fairly than equipment to until the fields, are additionally a significant supply. In one district in Pyongyang, in accordance to the English-language Pyongyang Times, a cooperative farm unfold “hundreds of tons of homemade manure per hectare of vegetables.” Another district produced 1.2 instances as a lot “homemade manure” for potato farming because the yr earlier than. The North Korean propaganda machine doesn’t body the wrestle by way of incentives or punishment however reviews on the manure marketing campaign with an enthusiasm often reserved for missile launches. People in Jagang Province, up by the Chinese border, “carried tens of thousands of tons of manure to co-op farms in three days through this year’s first campaign,” stated one breathless report carried by Pyongyang’s Korean Central News Agency. “Officials of the provincial institutions took the lead in the campaign, guiding the transport of manure to farm fields.” Down in South Hwanghae Province, on the Yellow Sea southwest of Pyongyang, North Korea’s Premier Kim Tok Hun, visiting a fertilizer manufacturing facility earlier this month, known as for “carpeting” farmland “with good-quality manure” for “decisively increasing the fertility of the soil.” Urine can be in demand, in accordance to Radio Free Asia, a U.S.-funded web site that usually reviews from contacts inside North Korea. The rural administration fee in a single province bordering China “instructed the farmers to donate their urine to be mixed into the compost,” RFA reported in May. Kim Jong Un Bans Citizens Ripping Off His Stylish Leather Coats RFA quoted one supply as saying employees have been “forced to bring two liters of urine per person per day to mix into the compost pile until the production goal is achieved” and had to “keep track of their donated urine in a record book.” Such reviews appeared supposed to enhance rivalry amongst areas in addition to officers and people for the honour of manufacturing essentially the most manure. “The authorities are apparently generating an atmosphere of competition,” stated Daily NK, reporting that administrators and officers have been “focused on fulfilling their quotas, afraid that units that fall behind will face ‘thorough review’—a euphemism obviously for severe punishment.” Low-level officers “are protecting themselves,” stated the report, by imposing fines on those that failed to meet quotas. Kim Jong Un in conferences with leaders of the ruling Workers’ Party, of which he’s basic secretary, has repeatedly positioned high emphasis on agriculture. In his last speech to occasion members on the finish of the yr, in accordance to KCNA, he stated the nation confronted “an important life-and-death wrestle” requiring “radical progress in solving the food, clothing and housing problem”—language that would seem to make clear he’s more interested in feeding his people than firing missiles. Kim didn’t get into specifics in his speech, but KCNA quoted him in 2014 advising agricultural leaders to “use all sources of manure such as domestic animal excrement, night soil [human excrement], compost and ditch-bed soil.”
Looks like the NK launch was indeed the reasoning for the Ground Stop at LAX and other airports on the west coast. Seems they may have been clearing the airspace near Vandenberg AFB in case they needed to fire its defensive interceptors.
The original responses from the FAA and others were pretty bland and didn't seem to confirm anything, just left a bunch of uncertainty. This essentially confirmed that the ground stop was due to NORAD making the call to ground everything while we figured out what was happening. Not a bad thing by the way.
Video has me running through walls for Un. Florida State needs to add whoever edited this video to their social media team.
It’s hilarious that it’s a state-funded project, and yet it comes across like someone doing a satirical comedy skit of Kim Jong Un lol. He seemed to be going for 80s action hero. I bet Un has all of Seagal and Van Dame’s movies on VHS.
He definitely strikes me as one of those guys. Or have a really terrible movie like that made with you as the star.