CoronaVirus Disease (COVID-19) Thread : Fuck em, should’ve gotten vaccinated

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  1. orangebl00d

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    Dr Eric seems pretty upbeat about trajectory so far

     
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  2. BellottiBold

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    So, if for example one of my parents in a retirement facility manages to pop positive and be be subject to quarantine, they'd have to break quarantine in order to get it. Perfect.
     
  3. pperc

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    no, why
     
  4. BellottiBold

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    because I'm a cranky dumbass not considering that they could probably manage to be prescribed it over the phone probably
     
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  5. afb

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    the bigger issue in this country would be insurance deciding to cover it
     
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  6. THF

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    So two of the people on my team have Covid. One for sure had omicron earlier this year and now has it again. He tested positive prior to a surgery scheduled which they have now delayed.

    Do we have a new wave making the rounds?
     
  7. Henry Blake

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    Omicron BA.2 is now the dominant variant in the US. BA.1 was dominant a couple of months ago. Good idea to have the booster shot. It's pretty infectious, but hospitalizations are thankfully not spiking like they have before.
     
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  8. VaxRule

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    Not necessarily. Your doctor can call it in and you can get prescription drugs delivered from the pharmacy.
     
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  9. steamengine

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    Shit’s starting to pop off around here in Texas as well.
     
  10. Josey Wales

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    Is it the case you’re less likely to get .2 if you had .1 and are boosted? Like damn that seems unlucky.
     
  11. Henry Blake

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    Not sure what the odds are of getting infected with .1 and then .2.

    Booster certainly helps your odds of avoiding Omicron infection in general (and really helps versus hospx and mortality):


    For over 50 and over 60, booster is important
     
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  12. fish

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    My wife's office implemented a gradual return to work plan beginning in April. Her team only needed to come in on Wednesdays (for the first month) and last Wednesday was the first day. She's exempt (thankfully) due to her having treatment for cancer less than a year ago. Yesterday, one of her team members emailed that she wasn't feeling well and was not going to work. They told everyone that said team member was Covid positive today.
     
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  13. Josey Wales

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    Can someone explain the 3rd vs 4th booster graph better — whats the reduction of the 3rd booster ?
     
  14. The B1G Kucktis

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    I avoided getting COVID from a work trip despite sitting across the table with the guy who tested positive.

    My Pfizer blood remains strong
     
  15. fish

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    Wife and I are getting 4th shots on Friday. We started with Pfizer, boosted with Moderna, and now need to choose again. Should we even the score or go back to the OG? Similar reactions to all three (little to no side effects outside of some slight fatigue the following morning)
     
  16. Buns

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    When should I get a second booster?

    first booster early October 2021.
    Got covid early March 2022.

    do I wait 90 days? More?
    Thx, lads.
     
  17. ~ taylor ~

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    No need to wait.
     
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  18. pperc

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    how old are you? do you have significant risk factors?
     
  19. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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  20. Buns

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    33 and nope. Pretty healthy.
     
  21. fish

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    I'm only 49! (But getting it anyway)
     
  22. pperc

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    then why would you be interested in a 4th vaccination?
     
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  23. a.tramp

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    Are we not Americans? We have been indoctrinated to hoard and consume!
     
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  24. pperc

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    lol. i mean, it's not going to hurt him, but i'm just curious why he would want to do it
     
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  25. Henry Blake

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    Not sure what you're asking. Could you elaborate? The chart shows reduction of mortality. Both mRNA boosters provide ~50% protection against infection, but great protectiion versus hospitalization and death. If you're over 50, then that 4th shot will give you even greater protection against hospx/death.

    From Topol https://erictopol.substack.com/p/a-new-wave-and-a-new-booster?s=w
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  26. Redav

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    Is there not going to be a second booster for 49 and under?
     
  27. dathalfnukkahd

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    Hopefully they can develop some sort of annual flu/covid shot in the future.
     
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  28. pperc

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    at this point, there isn't data that supports one being necessary. doesn't mean that data won't come, just hasn't yet.
     
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  29. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    In no way am I suggesting this is a bad mindset, but I think lots of people have become conditioned to think that they can't _ever_ contract COVID at this point. Now if that's more because they don't want to have to stay in their house for 5-10 days without contact then that's definitely understandable, but if you've had you're original booster and aren't immunocompromised then I don't think it's quite as scary to get sick as it once was. This is mostly from my anecdotal experience though, so just my 2cents.
     
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  30. Can I Spliff it

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    Believe thats the plan. The mRNA vaccines are specifically tailored to be modifiable very easily

    Identifying the appropriate modifications requires a ton of bench work and clinical data, annoyingly
     
  31. Buns

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    That’s a great question, I hadn’t really processed at that level tbh. Primarily, to lessen the risk to my child who hasn’t been able to be vaccinated and mitigate risk when around my parents.

    other than that, I guess it’s “if it doesn’t hurt to get another, why not”
     
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  33. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    Shit do I have to have a test to come back into the US from Canada? We have a work trip with our Canadian co-workers in Toronto and even Canada has now dropped that I have to show a negative test as long as I can provide proof of vaccination.
     
  34. beerleagueman

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  35. CaneKnight

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    Stupid shit
     
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  36. Henry Blake

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    Hope this continues
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  37. bwi2

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    why would I want to get sick with anything if I could get a shot instead? I’d definitely take three flu shots a year if that made a difference in whether or not I’d get the flu.
     
  38. Scblue

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    Also, aren't there still a lot of unknowns when it comes to long Covid? I'd prefer to limit my exposure as much as possible if only because of that.
     
  39. ~ taylor ~

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    If the is a benefit to getting another shot, I'll get another shot. Considering how there has been a benefit to getting another shot every step in this process, I'd happily get another shot before that benefit is proven for this step. It's literally the easiest thing to do to prevent getting really sick.
     
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  40. Hoss Bonaventure

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    I’ll get another if it means I don’t get even the tiniest bit sick. Fuck being sick at all ever.
     
  41. Redav

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    I hate getting sick with a passion so pump me full of vaccines
     
  42. denvermint

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    Exactly.
     
  43. CaneKnight

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    I do drugs and I have no idea who’s making them. By all means, Give me all the vaccines made by some of the best scientists on the planet
     
  44. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    Because very very few vaccines offer 100% protection against contracting the disease, the antibody levels needed to prevent outright contraction need to be very high for something very contagious and that virus needs to not mutate quickly, something that COVID is clearly not doing. I think measles is about the only virus that we've basically eliminated spread among vaccinated populations. Vaccines primary job is to prevent you from getting terribly ill and dying. COVID vaccines have shown to reduce symptoms of long COVID as well in those who had breakthrough infections. You're likely contagious for a shorter time and clearly deal with much milder symptoms.

    Also as I indicated, there's NOTHING WRONG with getting boosters whenever they become available. I'm just speaking to pperc's point that you're getting diminishing returns with stretching the truth over a 4th shot, that is until they update the vaccines themselves to match newer strains.

    To your flu-shot point, I don't think it's ever really tracked well in the US when you get one. You certainly don't get a card like you do with your COVID vaccinations. You could easily go to a different pharmacy after 4-6 months and ask to get another flu-shot, I'd be shocked if they wouldn't oblige as long as you didn't mention when you got your previous shot.
     
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  45. Sub-Zero

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    Relevant
     
  46. bwi2

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    I don’t expect 100% protection, but if I can increase the level of protection from both infection and serious illness or possible long term effects at minimal cost/inconvenience, what’s the harm? It’s not like an antibiotic where overuse risks diminishing overall efficacy.

    Re: flu - I don’t get multiple shots because flu is seasonal and the strains vary from year to year. There really isn’t any benefit to getting a flu shot in April.
     
  47. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    Are you interpreting my post that I'm arguing against this? I'm definitely not, but it's clear the original vaccines aren't holding up near as good against Omicron hence why it's currently recommended only for older people. I'm not even sure what your point is unless you think I'm saying to not get a booster shot when you're eligible.
     
  48. Pile Driving Miss Daisy

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    What's more interesting is my wife had a breakthrough and my kid, not immunized, got the Delta strain back in late July last year but I never tested positive or felt sick. Fast forward to 3 weeks ago and I got Omicron despite being boosted in late October, but my wife (who was boosted + had breakthrough) and my kid (had Delta then got vaccinated several months later) both didn't get it despite me absolutely exposing them. Again I'm not saying this is what you should do, but it's an indication