h3 had trainwrecks on their channel calling him out about this months back, and he basically ran away from the questions about it They all know it's scummy as shit, but they're making so much money they don't care.
Train is insanely degen. he is a legitimate gambling addict (and yes, coke) and at some point this sponsorship will go away and he will gamble with his own money and eventually go broke, that is absolutely going to happen. xqc is also an addict but can return to normal streaming and continue to make enough to support his habit, like Phil Mickelson. greek is not an addict but everyone hates him now so gambling is the only way for him to make good money.
this is easily the worst part. everyone doing Stake sponsorship (including goddamn Drake) is a multi-millionaire and especially in xqc's case, someone with an eight figure bank account. I saw asmongold's dumbass arguing in favor of xqc calling it "generational wealth" but xqc literally already has that he just won't ever have children. 10 million a month for one of us is life changing shit and I'd be hard pressed to blame anyone if they took the deal but xqc isn't going to live a different life making 20 million a month when he already makes millions a month as it is, that's my biggest issue with this crap. we're talking about a perennial starter in the NBA getting bumped up to All-Star levels of pay, it's not like they're paupers and this is them hitting the lottery.
That's... literally what I said. It's a good way for XQC to make his money back so long as he doesn't give a shit about his community.
There is 0.0% chance train is up. He loses at least 3 million per stream and most streams lose 6+. Wait, you mean he’s doing coke every time he walks off camera for 5 min? I thought he just had unreal stamina to stay up for 50+ hours at a time.
you're very much wrong about this unless you're not talking about what stake 1) pays him for the sponsorship and 2) what stake gives him to bet with
Correct. But just from the stream, you have to be a delusional fuck to think playing slots for 60 straight hours is profitable. Guy hits a 6 million dollar spin and 10 hours later is down 6 mill
oh for sure, he (nor anyone) will never be up doing slots I just thought you were saying overall he is losing money doing this
Rust makes me cry but I believe that Hank Pecker was Hasan's Rust RP toon where he essentially RP'd as a Trumper. Lyrtch or someone else can probably correct but I only remember bits and pieces of the Rust arc for Twitch. name dropping that outs the guy as a Hasan viewer but even funnier, he's essentially name dropping Hasan while grouping him in with guys like Shapiro and Crowder.
This Sliker situation is almost too on the nose for the gambling discussion on the platform. -Messaged lots of streamers and viewers asking to borrow money because he was "Locked out of his account." -It was really just to fund his own gambling addiction -He was introduced to gambling via CSGO skins, before he found out you could gamble with real money online -He scammed streamers and viewers out of literally hundreds of thousands of dollars
i don't really understand how anyone with a large platform was scammed if you give a guy $10k or whatever because his paypal was "locked", don't you may a big deal of it after a month or so? some of the people who gave him money are what i assume are some of the bigger streamers. how do they not make it public?
also, i don't really see what gambling on stream has to do with this. does the scammer even gamble on stream? not that i necessarily think that gambling should be a twitch activity.
they thought they were friends he started because of csgo gambling that was streamed constantly on twitch. i never know how people have your take while companies like Stake pay millions a month to streamers to gamble on stream. clearly its great advertising.
CSGO gambling also occurs outside of twitch. so maybe just ban CSGO trading? i don't have a take btw. I'm not pro-gambling or freedom or whatever. i just blaming twitch in this case is silly.
And it was a grown ass man that developed a terrible addiction as a result. Most of the viewers that watch guys like Trainwrecks and xqc's gambling streams are kids.
Gambling and the psychology behind it petrifies me. I know 3 people whose life it pretty much ruined. I actively avoid it and won't even place small bets on the occasional football game. I'm very glad I was made aware of some bad situations from a young age so it scared me away from it later in my life
other than hasan every once in a while for a political news story, i actually don't follow any of these live streamer personalities (and frankly think many of them are nearly as toxic as gambling content itself). i check livestreamfail maybe once a week for funny clips and i just randomly looked at it yesterday and saw the story related to this one sliker guy who i have seen clips of before. i wouldn't call myself informed here. but i think chalking this specific instance up to an issue with gambling on twitch is wrong. this is a case of someone simply taking advantage of their supposed friends, who themselves have a lot of money and are quite dumb. at this point, it's not even certain that sliker did gamble the money away -- that's everyone just taking the word of someone who just lied to those very same people for a couple of years! i just tuned into the hasan stream briefly and this sliker person now is openly talking about his addiction and issues. what clarity in the last 24 hours! and even if sliker did lose this scammed money, would it really have been different if it were drugs or clothes or whatever? of course, i don't like the idea of gambling content for kids (or even for adults, tbh) so I'm going to continue to stress that my opinion here is unrelated to that. i could maybe (doubtfully) be persuaded if there's something I'm missing but i would think twitch should ban that type of content.
the Sliker shit is wild, it's the most degen thing I've ever seen on Twitch that wasn't memed out of its mind. he's got a very serious, very dangerous addiction that needs immediate help. his ex-gf says he's suicidal over it since basically everyone is coming out of the woodwork to say "he did it to me". the total is over like half a million at this point, which is insane. and yes, Twitch should ban gambling.
Am a bit worried that's how this is gonna end. Probably feels like he's at the center of a black hole right now with regard to his life/career and the publicity of it makes it 10x worse
yep, almost feel like I'm just waiting for the inevitable. Hasan and miz got him on a call and talked about it, not so sure that was wise either. like, there's a sub with 1.5 million readers who are just raking him over the coals right now in about 20 different threads. even xqc being involved in insane drama isn't saving him.
Gambling streams specifically slots and virtual casinos need to be banned on twitch. Poker imo can and should stay. gambling is also fun as shit but like all vices should be done in moderation and only with money you can afford to lose. It’s paid entertainment.
If Mizkif actually did that then fuck him obviously, but Train constantly deflecting when he sold his soul to the gambling companies that sign his checks is hilariously transparent
the mizkif thing, unless it's a different one, is from years ago that he talked about on stream https://livestreamfails.com/clip/118384
They gotta get fired for that, right? No way they can allow their staff to accept payments from streamers. Every big company has rules against bribes.
probably not what the policy should be but it's a start. the slots stuff is absolutely evil to allow on a platform that caters to children and young adults. also find it really funny that while Sliker's scammerino drama is what caused this ban (the reveal led to discussion of gambling addiction which led to huge streamers discussing a site boycott until it's banned), he went broke because of sports betting which is still allowed.