**We got him! (no, not that THAT him) - the official Jan 6 committee hearing thread**

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  1. Prospector

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    take the 5th arguing some sort of presidential privilege?
     
  2. PeterGriffin

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    I struggle to see how that would be deal-worthy.
     
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  3. Prospector

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    he lied?
     
  4. PeterGriffin

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    Deal revoked, you’re now the first to be prosecuted, congrats.
     
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  5. Phil Connors

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    Conversation between him and Meadows wouldn’t be privileged, right?
     
  6. Thoros of Beer

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    Is the Trump administration, generally, the client?
     
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    As I understand it, the POTUS is his client. The office itself, not the man in office. So there are some things that aren't covered under executive or atty-client privilege that Cipollone could absolutely testify to.

    wes tegg is that your understanding?
     
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  8. Drown ‘Em

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    My thoughts:

    Trump’s actions to overthrow the election were not done in his capacity as the President. Rather, they were done in a personal capacity in furtherance of his campaign, as clearly evidenced by the actions of his campaign and personal attorneys in the time between the election and the insurrection. Cipollone was White House counsel, and didn’t represent the campaign. Anything said about the campaign in front of him shouldn’t be privileged. This is likely why Barr, Rosen, Donoghue, Engel, and Herschmann have all answered questions to the Committee about conversations with Trump. They all represented the White House or DOJ, but not the campaign.
     
  9. Thoros of Beer

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    Admittedly don't know who all of those people are but I think there is a client distinction between the AGs office and White House counsel. I assume Trump would state that he was acting in his executive capacity (enforcing the laws of the country). This is not my legal bailiwick, just speculating.
     
  10. Drown ‘Em

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    Trump can’t claim privilege on Cipollone’s testimony. He failed in trying to block the National Archives from turning documents over to the Committee. The SCOTUS (8-1, Thomas) upheld the DC Circuit opinion denying Trump’s claim of privilege by denying his application for an injunction because it said the DC Circuit found that his claim failed the tests for executive privilege which were developed by SCOTUS under the Nixon Watergate cases. Though, because of this SCOTUS didn’t address whether a former POTUS could claim executive privilege generally. And I doubt Cipollone would agree to the deposition simply to claim a privilege he knows would not survive appeal, like some Trump loyalists have tried/are trying. I also don’t think he plans to claim the 5th.
     
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  11. Thoros of Beer

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    Very interesting. Any distinction between executive privilege and a-c privilege?
     
  12. Drown ‘Em

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    So that goes back to the point of Trump’s actions being done personally for the campaign and not in his capacity as President. Cipollone wasn’t an attorney for the campaign. Any conversations about the campaign, including its efforts to overturn the election, between Trump and his campaign/personal attorneys/staff witnessed by Cipollone wouldn’t bind him to A-C privilege because he is considered a third party to the discussion who isn’t bound by A-C privilege. Also, there is always the crime/fraud exception to A-C privilege which allows an attorney to divulge otherwise privileged information concerning the client soliciting help with a crime.
     
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  13. Daniel Ocean

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    FWIU privilege follows the office and not the person so Biden can waive privilege.
     
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    I’m fairly confident Biden can’t waive a former president’s Attorney-Client privilege but the question of who the client is a little more complex. Either way, the privilege does not extend to communications made with the intent of committing or covering up a crime or fraud.
     
  15. Daniel Ocean

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    I must have misunderstood the reports then because I remember saying something about it be the office and not the individual.
     
  16. bwi2

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    Executive privilege does, but not attorney-client
     
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  17. Daniel Ocean

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    obviously I misunderstood what was being discussed. I thought EP was what was being discussed. My bad
     
  18. timo

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  19. chuckmasterflex

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  20. BlazingRebel

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    They need to bring the fucking noise on these alt right groups and make an example of them. Those docs investigating those groups are freaking terrifying.
     
  21. houtex716

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    But antifa!! BLM!!!
     
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  22. NDJOECA

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    Seriously, if nothing else comes of this, they should burn these groups to the ground. Nobody with any clout is coming to the defense of proud boys and 3%ers.
     
  23. BrentTray

    BrentTray I’m thinking Dorsia.
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  24. PeterGriffin

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    Sounds like a setup to say some wacky shit on national tv.
     
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  25. Prospector

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  26. Drown ‘Em

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    He’s a grifting liar who has caused so much damage to people like my mother, and a he’s traitor to this country. Let him hang with the others. Fuck giving him any deal other than a swifter death for his crimes.
     
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  27. Josey Wales

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    If it doesn’t lead directly to indicting Trump then I agree. This scumbag should be in prison now.
     
  28. Drown ‘Em

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    He’s a known liar. They don’t always make the most credible witness, especially when it’s in exchange for a deal.



    Fuck him and any deal. This is the key guy.
     
  29. Prospector

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    Also saw a tweet about him not evoking the 5th at all
     
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  30. Drown ‘Em

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  31. afb

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  32. Name P. Redacted

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    Rhodes, buddy to Alex Jones, wants attention and to look like he’s repentant? No thanks.
     
  33. AbeFroman

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    Maybe we can finally find out what caused his face lesions.
     
  34. AbeFroman

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    Yeah, all of these fucking grifters want to say they went on record but the committee buried the the truth because it would expose blah blah blah. Fuckum
     
  35. Prospector

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  36. chuckmasterflex

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    If I was on the jury where Bannon was a witness, you better believe I’d waste at least 30 minutes dissecting why he wore two button downs under a jacket in the witness box.
     
  37. Truman

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    Bump

    (the thread kind, not the hunter kind)
     
  38. Josey Wales

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    Bump is more Don jr vernacular. I assumed Hunter was a downers guy.

    Also, very neat we’re normalizing what Trump tried doing during a national debate, which is to make a dick of his recovering son.
     
  39. ned's head

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    Sidney powell being a dr. pepper drinker is perhaps the least surprising thing I've ever seen
     
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    cippilone actually seems like an adult
     
  41. Truman

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    Audibly laughed at her chugging some DP mid sentence in a deposition.
     
  42. Gallant Knight

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    damn i'm not sure i've ever taken a deposition without a coke zero nearby
     
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  43. PeterGriffin

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    Stalling
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  44. ned's head

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    Is ruby's attorney the mayor from doug?

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  45. Truman

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    Tim Pool lmao
     
  46. Truman

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    Never heard of this Salty Cracker dude, but that is an A+ name for chud/MAGA youtuber.
     
  47. chuckmasterflex

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    “Shoot my enemies.”
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    “Bring me Peter Navarro.”
     
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  49. BrentTray

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    Sure seems like these back the blue types would’ve been okay spilling capitol police blood!