Mar-A-Lago raided by the Feds - I may have committed some light treason

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  1. HuskerInMiami

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  2. fsugrad99

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  3. Bo Pelinis

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    God dammit Andrew you fucking moron
     
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  4. Tarpon Nole

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    he’s so fucking dumb
     
  5. slogan119

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    I would bet my life the Saudis had a chance to spend some quality reading time in that room
     
  6. Bo Pelinis

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    My point is what makes anyone think he doesn’t want to do that exact same thing again? It’s ludicrous. Of course he does. That’s why he did all the crimes trying to not leave office in the first place.
     
  7. NCHusker

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    The logical endpoint of Yang and his ilk's position is that Trump is just forever immune from being prosecuted for any wrongdoing regardless of severity. It's dumb as fuck
     
  8. AUShyGuy

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    The whole “worried about raiding a former/current politician” is such a crock of shit.
     
  9. Tarpon Nole

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    :idk:

    I’m not sure that it can’t be both. Trying to overthrow the government to stay in power and not wanting to be president again can both be true

    he can continue to grift and make money for the last few years before his heart explodes without the requirement of the duties he hated. He still can get up on stage and do the things he likes
     
  10. Gaknight

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    Remember when Dump and all the other dorks were part of the Yang Gang?
     
  11. Tommy Jefferson

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    Maybe it’s not fair to apply logic to this idiot… If it were notes/transcripts of anything illegal he had done, he would have almost certainly destroyed the material already. The fact that it still exists is a big clue that he had nefarious intentions.

    Similarly, the comparison between Hilary and Trump is one person was accused of deleting information while the other is accused of keeping information. The distinction between the two accusations is very clear. As is the ability to file charges based on the amount of evidence, which may be conveniently stashed in their own basement.
     
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  12. NCHusker

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    I think Trump loved parts of being president and also despised other parts of being president
     
  13. Whammy

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    Hey you could be absolutely right, who knows what's going on in that bag of cats in his head.

    But I tend to think he can still go to rallies and screech about the "steal" and grift forever without the constant attacks. Plus his greatest asset (Twitter) is no longer available to him. JMO
     
  14. Bo Pelinis

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    I liked him when he was first in the Dem primary because he was the one guy talking about diseases of despair and was pushing UBI as a universal program. And was pretty strongly for M4A iirc. Wasn’t my fav candidate but I liked him up there. Fucking hate the heel turn because it always makes me feel like an idiot and extremely skeptical of anyone new going forward.


    Waiting to feel stupid on Fetterman and Pritzker any day now
     
  15. Dillingham

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    you're giving our big beefy boy too much credit with the selling of state secrets stuff.

    He saw some documents with his beautiful signature on it and wanted to keep them because of how perfect his signature was
     
  16. Tarpon Nole

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    am I making it up in my head, but weren’t they just there a few months ago?

    edit - I was thinking of the liv tournament at his other course. However, I found this article from earlier this year while searching google https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/tr...sified-documents-20220224.html?outputType=amp
     
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    I despise disinformation and think it does more harm than good in the long run….BUT….

    …..it would be a real shame if a QAnon style rumor broke out that Ivana Trump told the FBI about Donnie selling top secret documents to GY-nuh and was murdered for it like they believe happened to Seth Rich.
     
  18. NCHusker

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    Trump is certainly a very stupid, self absorbed, profoundly uncurious person. But he isn't such a drooling moron that he can't understand how to make a sales transaction.

    I think we tend to think he's dumber than he is because of the way he speaks, particularly in public. The times we see him behind the scenes he's still dumb but he usually has more competence than I expect
     
  19. phunkybuck

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    Loved the part where he just did what ever he wanted, even if illegal. Hated the part when others told him maybe he shouldn't do so many crimes.
     
  20. Tommy Jefferson

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    That LIV golf tournament was at one of his courses in New Jersey.


    Edit: thought it was a course in Florida
     
  21. The Hotch

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    The answer to this is painfully simple. You do not rely on consent when searching or seizing items from a home because you do not want to litigate the consent or the scope of the consent later. Also no one would consent to the scope of the search sought by the warrant and to ask before procuring the warrant would tip off the subject of the search. Oh, you want to crack open the super sketchy safe in my office? Go right ahead.

    A warrant is a thousand times better. You get the warrant, particularly when dealing with a home, all of the time.
     
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  22. bro

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  23. NCHusker

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    I should be writing for the Times
     
  24. steamengine

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    It’s definitely either pictures of his tiny peen or the nuclear codes.
     
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  25. Super Vegeta

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    >Say all government agencies are corrupt
    >commit crimes
    >say corrupt agencies are out to get you
    >get raided because of crimes
    >see I told you they were all corrupt
     
  26. Doc Louis

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    Can't be that big of a deal, even Ernie Els has access [​IMG]
     
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  27. Josey Wales

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    Theres a Politico playbook link that says the warrant was signed by local judges. If Garland wasn’t involved then this starts to feel a bit different.
     
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  29. dblplay1212

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    No way they raided Trump's house without Garland signing off.
     
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  30. Lip

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    what is your question
     
  31. Redav

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    I was answering honestly when I quoted you earlier. They went to get documents they knew were there. What he took them for and how much trouble he may be in obviously remains to be seen
     
  32. Whammy

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    Man I hope this works out...nervous AF right now





     
  33. Hank Scorpio

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    It would be incredibly stupid and short sighted for that to happen, but to think there's no way that a local official could be that incredibly stupid and short sighted?
     
  34. ARSENAL

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    Didn’t see that. I’ll go back and look. Thanks
     
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  35. ButchCassidy

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    I'm guessing he took some that proved his corruption, and took others just because he wanted to. No way he actually had plans for them, he's too dumb.
     
  36. Hank Scorpio

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    This has been the overwhelming feeling of dread I've had while simultaneously laughing at all of the clever social media posts. Seeing people dunk on this moment is very fun, but it could also lead down an even darker road if this wasn't done correctly or result in any meaningful outcome.
     
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  37. wes tegg

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    No. Judges don't work for the DOJ. A "local" federal district court judge is who signed the warrant, but it was brought to the judge by either Main Justice (the DOJ) or a US Attorney's Office (also the DOJ). Garland is the head of the DOJ, and anything of this level would require his approval.
     
  38. bwi2

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    the whole premise of the dispute is that the documents were requested and Trump refused to turn them over. And if the documents get excluded, there is literally no case. Not to mention the procedural issues associated with having an attorney seize evidence subsequent to a consent-based document review with opposing counsel present
     
  39. Butthead

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    Feels like the disgraced ex-president fleeing to his supervillain hideout with the nation's most sensitive documents is actually worse than the fbi raiding his home
     
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  41. The Hotch

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    Yes that too. It is obvious that Trump was playing games on returning the documents or fully cooperating so I spoke about warrants and homes more generally. Relying on anything other than a warrant when searching a home is a good way to get evidence suppressed. I know you know that but others don’t. Even when exigency says police can enter briefly without warrant (e.g. shooting just happened inside a home and need to sweep for possible victims/suspects) police need to back out of the home and get a warrant after the brief sweep is done before they can actually go about the business of investigating a crime.
     
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  42. Butthead

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    Very untalented and a big loser iyam
     
  43. HoosDaMan

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    I don’t get the worry. lol. The pos thinks he’s above the law. Eat shit.
     
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  46. Tarpon Nole

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    Guys - the nuclear codes likely change multiple times a week, if not daily. Trump isn’t hiding some useless codes from January 2020 in his broom closet for the fbi to raid.

    Now nuclear secrets? Possibly
     
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  47. wes tegg

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    The combined forces of democrats' consistent ineptitude and Trump's ability to wriggle out of consequences do have me a bit concerned, fellas.
     
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    ok thanks
     
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  49. Tarpon Nole

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    i don’t think garland is an acting judge. Whatever judge oversees that federal district would sign, but garland would have to approve
     
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  50. Tarpon Nole

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    It’s been mentioned a handful of times as a possible thing he had