Seems likely it’s related to his cough. Medical examiner will have to determine the rest. I’m going with he developed pneumonia.
Right. But if we are being conspiracy theorist, if the govt did something to Wahl who is a nationally known journalist, they would certainly do something similar to a random guy. If that guy is still alive and kicking, it cuts off the wahl theories at the knees.
I am stanning for them. It just seems that it would be a bit off to murder a journalist in the middle of a relatively successful tournament when he’s not even making significant waves. A murder makes way more waves.
TMB doctors, he said he felt bad, but was feeling better. Was tweeting and was at the game. How do you go from that, to dying? Would you have not already felt deathly sick prior? Feel bad, but not bad enough to stop you from reporting on a game? It’s possible he did feel that bad but he chose to go anyway. I’m skeptical, but obviously ignorant. Don’t know how people feel before they suddenly die from an illness.
Look at Christian Eriksen, sudden cardiac arrest can kill anyone at any time even word class athletes. Him being sick/dehydrated/sitting in desert heat/excited makes it not at all out of the question.
what sort of waves do you think khashoggi was making when he was in turkey? i don't necessarily think wahl was murdered (though chances are certainly >1% imo) but wealthy/powerful entities do whatever they want, generally
It is not uncommon at all to die from natural causes while feeling well enough to be in a public setting like that
qatar has literally went out of its way to present a GOOD face and front, do you think murdering a prominent journalist helps that? What’s the benefit here?
What? No they haven’t. They’ve denied all the controversies that independent journalists have reported on. They don’t care.
Qatar is ruled by people whose religious beliefs are more extreme than the westboro baptist church, so nothing would surprise me, but killing him would be bold as hell.
The timing of it, too. His last tweet was about Netherlands equalizer. Could always be cardiac-related.
a murder of a prominent journalist causes more headaches for them… there’s like little to no benefit in this. They aren’t winning the war on gays by killing him
We’re murdering journalist for speaking out in favor for LGTBQ rights? It’s very possible I may not be up to date with what’s going on here but as far as what I'm aware of, that hasn’t been happening here. Again, if that’s happening, please educate me because I'm not aware of that happening here.
I think I made one comment saying to chill, he would be ok in California and then you wished death on my family or something like that. It’s obviously absolutely horrible this guy died. It’s pretty horrible when (almost) anyone dies. many in this thread cheer deaths on this board. Kind of odd to me but whatever.
are you actually following this world cup? - despite promising otherwise (literally as recently as september), qatar announced just a few weeks ago that they wouldn't allow the sale of alcohol in their stadiums. - despite promising otherwise, qatar has not followed fifa's rules on tolerence and inclusion and has not allowed rainbow flags, shirts, and armbands - despite "putting on a good face and front", qatar security officials have interrupted or stopped journalists from reporting from numerous countries it is not impossible to imagine wahl's repeated LGTBQ+ and migrant worker advocacy running himself afoul with someone with the power and desire to stop him -- at any cost. again, what's the difference between wahl's reporting and khashoggi's?
I mean… there’s so many differences between the two situations that I’m not sure what to say… like Saudis and khashoggi is a separate issue with its own nuances. but I’ll tell you this Saudi isn’t trying to put on show for the world with the Cup trying to garner respect. The two countries have different powers and needs
a gay night club in Miami was shot up. a gay night club in Colorado was shot up. a sitting congresswoman just cried on the floor hoping to defeat a marriage equality bill. the trans community is under constant attack. I could continue but I won’t. your posts itt are beyond stupid so again get fucked with your ignorant rhetoric.
It could also not be the gov per say that did it but the Qatari version of a group of white supremacist that took matters into their own hands. You see it in the us all the time, especially since trump empowered these fucks. Small distinction but it could explain the lack of political awareness here. Maybe a stupid idea but I feel like a detective tonight. Empowered extremists are dangerous as fuck.
It’s not likely he was murdered, as a lot of others have pointed out it doesn’t make a lot of sense for them. But, it’s Qatar and it’s definitely plausible and should be investigated as such. But I’m seeing so much of Twitter just taking it as fact he was murdered and that’s dumb.
This is the correct take IMO. Odds are greater he died of heart attack/some other sickness/health issue. But anyone acting like it’d be a crazy/implausible act for them to off a very vocal critic should do some reading/research.