Official Ukraine Thread: Putin On The Fritz

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  1. Hawks11

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  2. theregionsitter

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    These deals are absurd for our defense industry
     
  3. Artoo

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    Proxy wars are big business. All the money for our weapons manufacturers, none of the dead Americans. That's why they're going to drag this out as long as possible. The West is never going to give Ukraine all the material it would need to push Russia back. Only enough to keep fighting and surviving.
     
  4. ramszoolander

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    Too bad the Russians can't just invade unopposed and encourage human flourishing! I mean, indoor plumbing and human rights are really luxuries, when you think about it.
     
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  6. Artoo

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    You're a weird guy. And it's weird the way you can't help.but respond to me very angrily
     
  7. RockHardJawn39

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    What’s your definition of giving Ukraine all the material it would need? An Air Force with F18s? More Bradley’s? Missiles that can hit deep in Russia?
     
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  8. Artoo

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    I don't proclaim to be a war fighting expert. I only played my small part in the military. I'm no combined arms general. But I can clearly see, as well as a lot of folks in here, that humvees and M113s and a handful of HIMARS are not enough to push a front. They are only enough to keep a front static.
     
  9. RockHardJawn39

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    Are we ignoring Ukraine’s offensive in the fall?
     
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    You say this…
    but have this sort of interaction in another thread

     
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  11. pperc

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    whose military?
     
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  13. Illinihockey

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    Ukrainians already talking about an offensive in the next 4 weeks to push Wagner out of bahkmut
     
  14. timo

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    Proxy war? The Russians are actively trying to undermine US democracy in favor of an authoritarian favorable to the richest man in the world, Vlad Putin.
     
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  15. theregionsitter

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    Wagner is wiped out at this point
     
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  17. Artoo

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    Yes, I respond angrily when people downplay the effects of COVID on our population and when people suggest we should take similar laissez faire attitude towards another potential threat. Good catch
     
  18. Artoo

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    There's plenty of people on this board who know when and where I served.
     
  19. Imurhuckleberry

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    I’ve never actually wanted to bitch slap someone from this board before. I think I’d make an exception for you though.
     
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  20. Artoo

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    What specifically do you find so offensive about my post that makes you want to meet in a Public parking lot?
     
  21. Imurhuckleberry

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    I truly didn’t understand how massive a force Wagner was before this. Are there any other mercenary groups of similar size?
     
  22. Imurhuckleberry

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    I think it’s that you come off as the Chapo Tucker Carlson. Do you happen to rock a bow tie?
     
  23. pperc

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    name them
     
  24. timo

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    It's not.

    They're vastly wealthy with revenue streams from all over the world. Once they grind down the rest of the fodder they pulled out of Russian prisons they'll go buy some more.
     
  25. Artoo

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    Blackwater/Constellis
     
  26. Illinihockey

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    I could be wrong but at its peak black water had about 20,000 mercenaries. Wagner has had 30,000 casualties in ukraine this year
     
  27. bwi2

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    tbf there was a lot more competition in the US PMC market in the 2000s/early 2010s than there is in Russia today
     
  28. Fargin' Icehole

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    Reading about Wagner controlling that gold mine in Africa was eye opening. I have a better understanding of how spread out and plugged in they are. Eradicating them is not a realistic goal.
     
  29. NineteenNine

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  30. Bruce Wayne

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  31. timo

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    Right, when I go on about this vast far right conspiracy and all these tentacles connecting various authoritarian governments, massively wealthy individuals, and gigantic corporations, I'm not just saying it just because I'm a paranoid lunatic... that shit *is* actually going on.
     
  32. dathalfnukkahd

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    He won't.
     
  33. beerme

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    How do you pull people out of prison to fight for a mercenary group? Functionally anyway, they’re now out of jail how do half of them not make a run for it in the middle of the night?
     
  34. timo

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    a.) tell them if they desert they'll murder their families and then torture and murder them if they're caught.
    b.) where are you going to run to? If you surrender to Ukraine, they'll hold you until you're given over to the Russians in a prisoner swap, in which case, see above
     
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  35. Illinihockey

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    you tell them if they serve 6 months their sentences will be commuted, the rest was explained above
     
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  36. ramszoolander

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    This is awful, but also great. I'm glad all these lunatics are taking the mask off.
     
  37. HuskerInMiami

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    This Russian has a large shrapnel cut in his back and they're tending to it when they're hit by another bomb.
     
  38. HuskerInMiami

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    Russia sent thousands of their future generation to their graves.

     
  39. Tigers

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    Brutal. Seems like drone dropped grenade.
     
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  40. Tigers

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    they have a documented big problem with deserters and people surrendering to Ukrainians at first chance. Wagner addresses it by basically having a policy of we will execute you without question if you don't do exactly what we tell you to do.
     
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  41. Constant

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    I do.
     
  42. Paddy Murphy

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    Yeah, the Russians just kill them. Same as always.
     
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  43. theregionsitter

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    As expected: Rip Rawlings, Malcolm Nance,, and James Vazquez are all scammers

    lots of extremely damning items coming out about them
     
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  44. BudKilmer

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    Link?
     
  45. theregionsitter

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    search any name on Twitter
     
  46. BudKilmer

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    Yeah they are larpers, grifters, and war tourists. Did anyone think otherwise?
     
  47. theregionsitter

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    I was hoping to give Nance the benefit of the doubt but the other two were obvious
     
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  48. BudKilmer

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    nance is basically hot tub beer guy who parlayed some twittering into cnbc appearances. I’d never heard of the other two
     
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