Lawyer thread

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Jax Teller, Apr 8, 2015.

  1. Brandon Chicken

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    Congrats. Job sucks a lot of the time but there isn't a better feeling than winning a case.
     
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  2. colonel_forbin

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    Is anyone a tax lawyer?


    Thanks, man. :respek:
     
  3. MORBO!

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    Applying for an in-house job in an area I've really never worked in before. They're asking for "one year of experience" in the area, but I can probably BS my way around that. I would like to think my 5 years of mid-law experience at a reputable firm will help a little bit at least. :pray:

    It's a "junior to mid-level" associate position...so maybe there's a chance...
     
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  4. Bo Pelinis

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    AHebrewToo iirc
     
  5. RJF-GUMP

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    Alabama case Estate of Roy v Suttles-reading about this in my MS Jury Reporter-4M plaintiffs verdict. They do notable verdicts from nearby states. So were the damages against the city capped at 100k or did they have complete immunity? And then the rest of the 4M was against an individual police officer-so good luck in trying to collect? Maybe she had some UM.
     
  6. AHebrewToo

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    Yup.

    I exclusively do transactional work and have a pretty narrow specialty, though.
     
  7. New user

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    What's the pay difference like?
     
  8. Tilly

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    I keep receiving these tax deficiency notices from the irs. Please advise if I can ignore them.
     
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  9. AHebrewToo

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    Sounds serious.
     
  10. MORBO!

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    No idea yet. I honestly have no idea how much to expect for a junior/mid-level in-house position with a major corporation. I'm guessing it will be slight pay increase for me, but almost negligible.
     
  11. Tilly

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    Super serious.
     
  12. New user

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    Based on not much of anything, I'm always inclined to think it's like 200-230k (or at least in Chicago), but even that could be off. Idk if there's room to move up/make more money in house or not either. Feel like I'm pretty clueless about the whole thing.

    My group just had a 6th year associate leave to go in house at Accenture. I'm assuming he took a decent pay cut to do so.
     
  13. FriendsofJtyler

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    Got promoted up to a misdemeanor chief this week (now have 2 prosecutors under me and I'm running the court from our side - if a defense attorney wants a dismissal, reduction, or wants to set anything for trial they have to go through me). 5 spots away from felony :warn: :yousoright:
     
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  14. wes tegg

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    That case went up and down several times. I think Homewood's employee insurance covered the officer. If not, there'd be a decent set up for a bad faith claim.
     
  15. Cheshire Bridge

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    Got a 'family member' in jail on serious charges.

    Is this a good deal? Hiring a criminal defense attorney, but.....

    He's a federal attorney. His name is "Bob" My family member that's in jail has been assigned a court appointed state attorney. His name is "Carl"

    We're very comfortable with Bob, as we initially contacted him and he's given us references. Solid background, experienced per the charges, and prompt in responding to questions.

    Bob, because he is a federal attorney has proposed working with Carl on our case and sharing the fee as Bob is not as familiar anymore in state court. Is the reasonable?

    Anyone got any referrals for felony criminal charges in Dallas, TX?
     
  16. Tilly

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    Pretty much standard rule for me is don't be cheap when hiring the person that's supposed to keep you out of federal/state pound you in the ass prison.
     
  17. Cheshire Bridge

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    thanks....the fee is gonna be $30K if it goes to trial. Around $15K if it doesn't. Seems to be standard from what we've seen. ...
     
  18. bwi2

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    I'd be a little bit cautious because you want someone familiar with the venue/prosecutor/judges if possible. You're paying two attorneys for the combined experience that you should be getting from one.
     
  19. OopsPowSurprise

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    go with someone who knows the venue for sure
     
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  20. OopsPowSurprise

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    i started felonies this week, i would struggle going from state to federal since the laws are so different
     
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  21. 941Gator

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    Here is the one thing I would worry about, make sure that Bob is actually listed on the case.
    Well maybe, but he is getting 2 attorneys for the price of one.

    This is assuming bob can actually pay Carl. Not sure how that works. I believe in Florida public defenders are not allowed to make money on the side off criminal cases. So this is an appointed case for Carl I guess.
     
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  22. bwi2

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    He's getting two halves of an attorney for the price of one. I'd rather have one for the price of one, or two for the price of two if the second attorney added value.
     
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  23. 941Gator

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    Ha well I don't know how to measure this and idk how you are coming to your fictional measurements. The best criminal defense attorney in the Tampa Bay Area is a public defender. "Bob" seems to be adequate. Sounds like client is getting 1.8 with Bob bringing down the average for lack of state court knowledge.
     
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  24. bwi2

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    Do you think a defense attorney is giving the same effort for $15,000 that he's giving for $30,000? Do you think an attorney that can command $30,000 would give away $15,000 if he didn't think he needed the help?
     
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  25. Cheshire Bridge

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    another question....if we get her an attorney and run out of money at any point, can we switch back to a public defender?
     
  26. Tilly

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    Never done crim law, but always thought they were a cash up front kind of deal.
     
  27. 941Gator

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    yes. Assuming the attorney is allowed to get off the case, unless you're just firing this attorney. The contract is non-refundable I'm assuming in regards to the money.
     
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  28. Cheshire Bridge

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    It's cash up front, but it doesn't include going to trial.
     
  29. 941Gator

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    I see. I would hope so yes, but I get your point. I'm just confused on the logistics of the relationship between a PD and a private attorney, especially concerning the fee's.

    A Congressman there are websites that grade/rank attorneys.
     
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  30. Cheshire Bridge

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    Been looking at Avvo a good bit. Family member is looking at a realistic chance at effectively life. Trying our absolute best to make sure that isn't the case.
     
  31. wes tegg

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    Don't rely on Avvo. :twocents:
     
  32. Cheshire Bridge

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    Anything better out there?
     
  33. Tilly

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    Word of mouth is the only thing is rely on tbh. There are probably some criminal defense associations but no clue what they are or which ones are worth a shit vs. Which ones are a money grab.
     
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  34. wes tegg

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    Martindale Hubbell.
     
  35. wes tegg

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    It's mostly self-promotion. They call me weekly about activating my profile and paying to come up in search results.
     
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  36. J.R. Bob Dobbs

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    how big a deal is being AV rated?
     
  37. wes tegg

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    It requires peer review, so it means something. That said, it's no guarantee that the lawyer is actually great or anything.
     
  38. nativeson

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    Word of mouth is your best bet. You want someone that has a reputation and is known for their work where the trial would be held. If you needed a lawyer in SC my first question is where you were arrested and then I would make a recommendation. A good relationship is worth as much as the ability to handle a trial.

    reach out to a lawyer that you know and have them ask friends/partners. There are a ton of email list serves that can help get a personal recommendation.
     
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  39. FriendsofJtyler

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    Toby Shook is the best criminal defense attorney in Dallas imo if you can afford him. He was the special prosecutor on the Kaufman county cases (where the DA and another prosecutor were murdered). He ain't going to be cheap though, but he's extremely well respected around here.
     
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  40. Cheshire Bridge

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    Thanks! SIL was arrested in Midland Texas. We all live in Georgia, so we have zero contacts in TX.
     
  41. Cheshire Bridge

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    We have a max of $25k. Is it even worth the call?
     
  42. lastcup

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    Youngest AV rated attorney in my firm, checking in.

    Basically you need to make friends with a couple dozen av rated lawyers outside your firm and ask them to say nice things.
     
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  43. RJF-GUMP

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    I think its hilarious that super lawyers wants you to pay a bunch of money to get on the super lawyers list. Also I don't feel the need to go about doing the AV rated stuff. Am I wrong in this?
     
  44. SmoochieWallace

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    I wouldn't think so, but I do commercial lit.
     
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  45. wes tegg

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    That's not really true. I think you have to pay to be "featured" or whatever, but the list itself doesn't require payment. AV-rated means the most. If you can, do it. I don't think you've been practicing long enough to qualify, though.
     
  46. RJF-GUMP

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    oh my boss had some stuff from super lawyers on his desk and said something about how he had to pay to be in it, maybe i misunderstood
     
  47. Big Meech

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    You get voted on but if you want to have an ad or be featured you have to pay
     
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  48. Gallant Knight

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    so i know i sound like the most unethical motherfucker in this thread but...

    anyone worked on side cases while employed at a firm without presenting them to the firm?
     
  49. wes tegg

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    Explain what you mean.
     
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  50. Tilly

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    Can't say that I have. Need to be extra careful in that instance though and nothing big. If it's big I think you current firm can come after you for some of the fee. Flip side, if you fuck up and there's even the chance of a malpractice or disciplinary issue, you'll probably be fired and could be unemployable in your area. If you're going to do it, keep it quiet and make sure everything is done correctly so there's no blowback on you.

    But yeah, I'd still say p bad idea.