Forgot to point out that the scrap of paper that was in Persian was in a secret compartment in the waistband of the guy's pants, that was apparently custom made to hide things. They didn't find it until a few weeks after they found the body, iirc
This happened in my hometown. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1988-02-14/news/8803300127_1_shearer-dentists-posse-comitatus Cliffs: A family gets involved in some holistic, New-Age cult. The cult eschews common medicine. The family cuts off contact with basically all of their friends and family. The father quit showing up to work and isn't seen for a long time. There is some suspicion, but it is kinda tempered, because the family had already become reclusive before he went missing. The police are called to the house when he doesn't show up to work, but the family won't let them inside, so nothing ends up happening. Anytime that family or friends show up at the house, they are turned away also. They won't let anyone see the father because he is "sick." It turns out, he actually died and his body had become mummified. This isn't found out until 9 years later, when they actually let a relative inside and he caught a glimpse of the father and thought it looked like a dead body. He called the police, and they came and found the dead body. For the last 9 years, the family had been pretending that the father was still alive. The dead man's brother, who introduced them to the cult, had moved in after he died to keep visitors at bay. And, after the brother died, another member of the cult moved in to run the household. The family had two children, ages 5 and 8, when he died. Everyday, for 9 years, the family would change the father's clothes and bed sheets. They would wheel him around the house in a chair to spend time with them. They actually believed he was still alive. I found out about this when I was a kid and went to a friend's house. He lived by the "Mummy House," as it had been come to be known, and told me this story. I was kinda freaked out but didn't really believe him. So I went home and asked my mom about it and she was like, "Oh yeah, that's definitely a true story." That was reassuring. My aunt was a classmate of one of the kids, who was 17 when everyone found out about this. Apparently, the kids seemed normal and never really said anything about it. Whenever there was an event at the school or wherever, and the father didn't show up, it was just casually mentioned that he was sick or whatever and nobody at the school ever questioned anything. These kids would go to school and do after-school activities like normal kids and then go home and spend time with their crazy-ass mother and mummified father.
ehh...for someone who could be running from someone she didn't seem like she was in any type of rush the way she looked originally walking into the elevator she seemed fucked up or having an episode which would make sense if she was diagnosed bipolar however it still doesnt explain all that stuff on the roof
Really good article that covers it from all angles and explains a lot. https://medium.com/matter/haunted-947d642a6d59#.1tobqgnv5 One was Dr. Drew Ramsey, a psychiatrist at Columbia University who also happens to be a friend. Ramsey has extensive experience seeing and treating patients with psychosis and manic depression. Based on the video alone, his instinct had been that Elisa Lam probably had a psychotic episode that led to her death. He based this opinion on the behavior he observed in the video, the same behavior that launched a thousand crackpot theories. “Watching the video, this is classic internal preoccupation and psychosis,” he wrote to me in an email. “She is paranoid and looking for someone. She presses all the buttons, takes those measured steps, and has the stereotyped hand gestures — all classic psychosis.” When I sent him the autopsy report, it confirmed his suspicions. And the medications Lam was taking clarified the picture even further: “We have a clearly psychiatric patient, with depression and mood instability at a minimum, treated with multiple meds, at the age when things like bipolar disorder and schizophrenia tend to blossom.” A tragedy, Ramsey said, that isn’t even that mysterious. The evidence is right there in the video. “What does make sense is a woman who is very paranoid, who clearly wants to hide. We already see that her preference is to hide in a container, like an elevator. What’s another great place to hide? A water tank. The way she behaves in the elevator fits with me, purely as a psychiatric diagnosis, and fits with the circumstances of her hiding in a container. What’s the safest place you can hide? She kind of found it. Nobody found her for two weeks.”
Also, if you don't want to read the whole article. There is a window that leads right to the fire escape ladder directly to the roof. That is how she got up there without triggering the alarm from opening the door to the roof.
Worst part is the guest of the hotel were drinking, brushing their teeth, and showering with rotting corpse water. http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/20/us/california-hotel-water-corpse/ Spoiler: ARTICLE Tourists staying at a Los Angeles hotel bathed, brushed teeth and drank water from a tank in which a young woman's body was likely decomposing for more than two weeks, police said. Elisa Lam's corpse was found in the Cecil Hotel's rooftop water tank by a maintenance worker who was trying to figure out why the water pressure was low Tuesday. Lam's parents reported her missing in early February. The last sighting of her was in the hotel on January 31, Los Angeles Police said. Detectives are now investigating the 21-year-old Canadian's suspicious death, police Sgt. Rudy Lopez said. It was not clear whether the water presented any health risks to those who consumed it. Results on tests on the water done Wednesday by the Los Angeles Public Health Department were expected later in the day. Death of woman found at hotel a mystery 02:42 Hotel guests: Discovery 'sickening' 02:29 Woman's body found in hotel water tank 03:03 The hotel management has not responded to CNN requests for comment. Video appears to show four cisterns on the hotel roof. People who stayed at the Cecil since Lam's disappearance expressed shock about developments. "The water did have a funny taste," Sabrina Baugh told CNN on Wednesday. She and her husband used the water for eight days. "We never thought anything of it," the British woman said. "We thought it was just the way it was here." What she described was not normal. "The shower was awful," she said. "When you turned the tap on, the water was coming black first for two seconds and then it was going back to normal." The hotel remained open after the discovery, but guests checking in Tuesday were told not to drink it, according to Qui Nguyen, who decided to find a new hotel Wednesday. Nguyen said he learned about the body from a CNN reporter, not the hotel staff.
Thought this was appropriate to post here Suspect named in a kidnapping in 1989. http://www.startribune.com/new-developments-to-be-announced-in-wetterling-case/338399961/#1
That's gotta be so hard for the family. On the one hand, you have wanted justice/answers for 26 years. On the other hand, really opens up those old wounds again.
I'm sure they've accepted that he was killed but definitely has to be tough to possibly find out for sure.
When your son is kidnapped and killed, does that wound ever close? I'd want to see justice. I'd want to see that son of a bitch fry.
They can still come rape/kill/eat you if you haven't read anything in this thread. You're never really safe.
There's a guy who investigated this case. He was brought in by Colorado police. He's solved some ungodly amount of cases. Anyway, he thinks Boulder completely blew the investigation and he thinks beyond a doubt that the Ramseys were not involved. I believe him because of his record. That's the closest I've come to any resolution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Smit
Just watched the movie The Frozen Ground on on demand with Nicholas cage Was about the hunt for this guy who was played by john cusack https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hansen Actually wasn't that bad compared to the other shit cage does these days since he needs money so bad
The Hansen movie with Ryan Phillippe and Chris Cooper was really good. Didn't know they made another one.
welp, spent an hour reading random things. just made sure i had my buckshot in my nightstand for the 12 gauge
Never got around to watching the movie but always enjoyed the story, so much land out here that nobody touches, if you have a bush plane you can pretty much hide a body forever
Started this thread last night before bed. Fascinating but no way in hell was I going to listen to that voicemail in my apartment last night. showed my co worker the forum going to listen to the voicemail on the way to lunch