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  1. buckwild

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  2. Corch

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    I can't wait to watch him
     
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  3. Gunners

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    Actually watching first episode of Industry, this seems to have a lot going on. Seems like a much more explicit Billions meets Suits, I’m too innocent for this
     
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  4. Goose

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    Billions seems like a show I’d really like but I can never get past the first season. Have been interested in Industry.
     
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  5. Gunners

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    It’s ok, quit after Damian Lewis left

    he lost his wife so certainly understandable
     
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  6. Goose

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    Didn't even know he didn't finish the show. He's so great in BoB
     
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  7. Corch

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    Industry is better than Billions and I liked Billions despite it's frequent corniness. Industry is a lot more raw and the writing is better imo.

    Lots of sex and drugs too.
     
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  8. herb.burdette

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    I was kind of surprised we got 15 first place votes in the AP poll. Georgia has 46.

    This is the most split the AP preseason poll has been since 2020, when Clemson (38) and OSU (21) split.

    Ohio State has risen to AP 2 or AP 1 in at least one weekly poll for the last 12 seasons dating to 2013. We have not been 1 since 2015.
     
  9. buckwild

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    I forgot he's still playing college football...

     
  10. buckwild

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  11. HotMic

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    Good job Mike.

    :facepalm:
     
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  12. herb.burdette

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    We nearly beat Georgia with him switching from LB to RB and Xavier running from WR to RB.
     
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  13. Charles DeMar

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    Still too soon to discuss this game and that targeting that was somehow overturned, Herb
     
  14. Corch

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  15. ButchCassidy

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  16. GGCD

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  17. JC

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    Gosh that is awful stuff.
     
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  19. dukebuckeye

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    Well played lol
     
  20. dukebuckeye

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    Also, what a fucking moron.
     
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  21. Charles DeMar

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  22. JC

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    That is hair is amazing.
     
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  23. GGCD

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    Gunners
     
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  24. GGCD

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    if you think the old version of kevin noon sucked, just wait until you see this new Fantasy Football version of Kevin Noon!

     
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  25. Charles DeMar

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  26. Charles DeMar

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    :awesomeface: :angrycorn:

    Kinda forgot about this site



     
  27. Charles DeMar

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    Former Buckeye (and shoutout Pelican )

     
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  28. herb.burdette

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    ESPN has its SP rankings posted. For what it’s worth, they have us as the 2 defense and have us playing 7 teams in the top 30 defenses.

    Iowa 1
    Michigan 3
    Penn State 4
    Nebraska 6
    Oregon 15
    MSU 26
    Northwestern 29
     
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  29. buckwild

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    Just looked at their preseason All-American team...Downs our only player on the 1st team....UM had 3
     
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  30. herb.burdette

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    People can make fun of the ESPN conspiracy stuff, but I also posted in the Big Ten thread that ESPN updated their FPI and SP rankings.

    Although no games have been played, they have SEC teams at 9/10 toughest schedules, 15 of the top 23, and all 16 teams ranked top 29.

    Their defensive model has Big Ten teams ranked 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 nationally, but SEC players have 6/11 spots on the D.
     
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  31. ButchCassidy

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    ESPN coverage already sucked. It's only going to be worse now that they own the SEC media rights.
    I imagine they'll really push SEC teams for the playoff, once that time of the year comes.
     
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  32. CB

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    won't be shocked if the SEC gets 5 total bids including at least 1 9-3 team, maybe 2

    Georgia, Texas, and Alabama seem like very likely bids. then they more than likely get 2 of Ole Miss, Missouri, LSU, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Texas A&M

    of those 9 teams, only OU is projected to win less than 9 games (8-4)

    those teams represent 1, 3, 5, 8, 9, 10, 13, 14, and 16 in the FPI lol
     
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  33. Charles DeMar

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    And wow, this seems to be a lot for an OG that’s not even a consensus top 25 player

     
  34. buckwild

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    Seems to be smoke out there that Day is announcing Howard as starting QB tomorrow during his presser. Hopefully, it's true.
     
  35. JC

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    Hell yeah
     
  36. b7

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    Devin Brown just became the most popular player on the team
     
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  37. buckwild

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  38. Charles DeMar

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    ICYMI

     
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  39. herb.burdette

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    The polls become a self fulfilling prophesy once initial perception is set.

    Currently, the Big Ten and SEC are spilt 4-4 among top 10 teams and 6-9 for top 25 overall.

    There are a lot of statistical articles that get circulated in November about how far a team can fall but still make the four team playoff.

    I would be interested if someone reviewed unranked teams on 10/1 and whether they make the final top-12.
     
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  40. CB

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    A nice piece yesterday by Staples and Russo looked into this

     
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  41. buckwild

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  42. herb.burdette

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    I was thinking along the lines of how many teams each conference gets. For example, when the first CFP poll is released in early November, a team ranked outside the top 10 in that poll historically has almost no shot to make the top 4 (OSU 2014 as an outlier),

    I wonder what that looks like as the polls solidify in early October. How far back becomes too far once the AP/Coaches rankings post the first week of October?
     
  43. CB

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    If I gets some extra time I'll look into it. Definitely a good question and would help set real expectations
     
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  44. Charles DeMar

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  45. CB

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    here we go herb.burdette . first, what I looked at:

    I compiled the list of the 12 teams who would have made the field each year 2014-2023 based on the established criteria; I used 6 auto bids given the P12 existed did all seeding based on on how it should play out (ie top 4 have to be conference champs, must have the highest ranked G5 included)

    I looked at AP preseason rankings, the AP poll to begin October (roughly 5 games in most years), the first AP poll of October, the 1st CFP poll released, and the last CFP poll released.

    I bucketed teams ranked 1-5, 6-10, 11-20, 21-25, and unranked. I did this for all 120 teams who made the field and then narrowed the focus to just the at large teams.

    First the high level view
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    • a quarter of the teams who made the field were not ranked by the AP preseason; but, as we will see, 13 of 30 were conference champs and got an auto bid
      • of the other 17 at large bids, 1 ACC, 5 B1G, 4 BXII, 2 P12, 5 SEC
    • only 16 teams made the field that were unranked at beginning of October; 12 of the 17 were conference champions
      • the 5 at large bids went to: 2015 UNC (11-2), 2016 USC (9-3), 2019 Baylor (11-2), 2020 Indiana (6-1)
    • only 5 teams made the field when unranked at beginning of November
      • 2014 Boise as MWC champ, 2016 USC as an at large, 2021 Utah as P12 champ, 2021 Pitt as ACC champ, and 2023 Liberty as CUSA champ
    • Only 6 teams not in the initial CFP top 25 made the field
      • 2014 Boise, 2015 UNC, 2016 USC, 2018 Washington (10-3 P12 champ), 2021 Utah, and 2023 Liberty
    • Only 20 teams ranked outside the CFP's final Top 25 made the field; 10 fo the 20 were conference winners (8 of which was the highest G5)
      • of the 10 at larges outside top 10 only 1 was not ranked #11, that was 2018 Penn St at #12 (UCF was #8 hence #12 actually made the field)
      • the 10 at large bids were distributed 1 to ACC, 3 to B1G, 2 to BXII, 2 to P12, 2 to SEC
    here is the breakdown of only the at large bids
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    Conclusion?

    70% of all bids went to teams who were preseason Top 20 in the AP Poll; this includes 66.7% of the at large bids
    80% of all bids went to teams who were in the AP Top 20 at the start of October; this includes ~82% of the at large bids
    93% of all bids went to teams who were in the AP Top 20 at the start of November; this includes 95% of the at large bids

    the B1G and SEC combined for 58 of 120 total bids (48.3%) including 38 of the 60 at large bids (63.3%). but only 10 of those started the year unranked and only 1 was unranked at the start of October

    I got all the data saved. if you want to see anything or have me look further at anything else let me know
     
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  46. herb.burdette

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    You just had that data ready to go? Impressive.
     
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  47. CB

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    lol, I had a lot of it, yes. just had to grab the October and November stuff
     
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