And if it's in place of those worthless meaningless bowls that aren't the CFB playoff even better. That way we don't have to hear posters say their teams didn't want to be there when they lost to whateverthefuck school after getting left out of the very tiny playoff format
Will you make a list of the deserving teams that have been left out since the CFP was instituted? I’d honestly like to see who was deserving and got left out. UCF is the only team that immediately comes to mind.
Several BSU teams pre-playoff. UCF 2017 and 2018 (went undefeated and only lost by 8 to LSU and that game was super interesting) Kansas 2007. Could argue Missouri 2007 too. They only lost to Oklahoma twice which was a Fiesta Bowl team. They also beat the brakes off Arkansas in the bullshit Cotton Bowl. In 2008 the Texas Tech Crabtree I seen it in my head game happened. They would have been a playoff team depending on the format (ranked 8th at bowl time), although they lost to Ole Miss in their bowl game. I'm getting bored looking shit up but a whole bunch of teams in that 5-10 range that went to a BCS type game in the last 20 years would have been dangerous and made things interesting
That in 7 years of the CFP, only one team has a legitimate argument for not being included, and even that’s debatable.
But, in this hypothetical, why should an 9-4 Florida team get in because they were fortunate enough to have been the beneficiary of arbitrary line-drawing from 1991? In your example, a 11-1 Georgia could be left out for the 9-4 Florida and 12-1 Alabama. How is that good for choosing a Champion?
There's a much better argument for abolishing conference title games than for not expanding a playoff.
3 of 14 semifinals have been decided by a TD or less. By all means let’s see 1 play 8/9 and 2 play 7/10 because that will be more exciting football!
Please don't give me more games that matter! I very much enjoy the current non-playoff bowl games which nobody cares about at all.
I thought OU’s ass kicking of Florida was great. No issues with it at all. If you want the players in meaningless bowl games to try more, let the sponsor give the winning team $10,000 per player in NIL payments.
Indiana 2020 would have been a perfect example for the new format if Penix didn't get injured in their 2nd to last game of the season. They only lost to OSU in the regular season (at OSU by a TD) and were left out of the conference title and OSU was a playoff team. It was a super competitive game. Them losing by 6 to Ole Miss as a Penixless team doesn't change that.
Fixed it. 11-1 Georgia could lose to Florida as its one loss, and Florida only lose to Alabama in conference, losing to USF, FAU, and FSU out of conference.
Just like the B1G changing the rules for your team so you could play in the conference title game being a good idea
One team qualified for the conference title game and one did not so they changed the rules. The team that did qualify got left out and now you're saying they didn't deserve anything more than they got. Pretty convenient.
They wouldn't have made the playoffs anyway. Also, I don't think that anything from the pandemic year should be used as a compass for what to do going forward.
The point of the playoff is to find a national champion, among the best of the best teams. Not to give teams some prize of possibly winning one game because they had a good season.
First we need to decide the entire framework of major college football. Ruling half the members out pre-season isn't a workable plan. Either do a formal split where only certain leagues can be eligible or open that shit up. They would have to come up with some metrics for membership based on expenditures or something.
Upsets are what make sports fun. You all are claiming it's just a waste of time to even consider that it's a possibility. I disagree.
I also wouldn’t characterize Indiana as a competitive game. We were up 35-7 in the third quarter and blew that lead, but Indiana never got with single digits until it’s last score. After Indiana made it 42-28 in the 4th Q, they had two first downs in three series the rest of the game. They just happened to hit a 56 yard TD to go 42-35.
Give autobids for P5 champs and highest rated G5 team, so long as they finish in the CFP committee's top 16. I'd watch the fuck out of these games... 2020 #1 11-0 Alabama (SEC champ) -- bye ---> #9 7-2 Georgia (at large) at #8 9-0 Cincinnati (G5 autobid) #2 10-1 Clemson (ACC champ) -- bye ---> #10 8-3 Iowa State (at large) at #7 8-3 Florida (at large) #3 6-0 Ohio State (B1G champ) -- bye ---> #11 6-1 Indiana (at large) at #6 8-2 Oklahoma (B12 champ) -- bye #4 10-1 Notre Dame (at large) -- bye ---> #12 11-0 Coastal Carolina (at large) at #5 8-1 Texas A&M (at large) ...no P12 champ autobid 2019 #1 13-0 LSU (SEC champ) -- bye ---> #9 10-2 Florida (at large) at #8 10-3 Wisconsin (at large) #2 13-0 Ohio State (B1G champ) -- bye ---> #10 10-2 Penn State (at large) at #7 11-2 Baylor (at large) #3 13-0 Clemson (ACC champ) -- bye ---> #11 11-2 Utah (at large) at #6 11-2 Oregon (P12 champ) #4 12-1 Oklahoma (B12 champ) -- bye ---> #12 9-3 Auburn (at large) at #5 11-2 Georgia (at large) ...committee probably flips the #10 Penn State / #11 Utah rankings to prevent a P12 CCG rematch ...committee probably moves up 12-1 Memphis from #17 to #16 in order to keep the G5 happy, bumping #12 Auburn 2018 #1 13-0 Alabama (SEC champ) -- bye ---> #9 10-3 Washington (P12 champ) at #8 12-0 UCF (G5 autobid) #2 13-0 Clemson (ACC champ) -- bye ---> #10 9-3 Florida (at large) at #7 10-2 Michigan (at large) #3 12-0 Notre Dame (at large) -- bye ---> #11 9-3 LSU (at large) at #6 12-1 Ohio State (B1G champ) #4 12-1 Oklahoma (B12 champ) -- bye ---> #12 9-3 Penn State (at large) at #5 11-2 Georgia (at large) 2017 #1 12-1 Clemson (ACC champ) -- bye ---> #9 10-2 Penn State (at large) at #8 11-2 USC (P12 champ) #2 12-1 Oklahoma (B12 champ) -- bye ---> #10 10-2 Miami-FL (at large) at #7 10-3 Auburn (at large) #3 12-1 Georgia (SEC champ) -- bye ---> #11 10-2 Washington (at large) at #6 12-1 Wisconsin (at large) #4 11-1 Alabama (at large) -- bye ---> #12 12-0 UCF (G5 autobid) at #5 11-1 Ohio State (B1G champ) 2016 #1 13-0 Alabama (SEC champ) -- bye ---> #9 9-3 USC (at large) at #8 10-3 Wisconsin (at large) #2 12-1 Clemson (ACC champ) -- bye ---> #10 10-3 Colorado (at large) at #7 10-2 Oklahoma (B12 champ) #3 11-1 Ohio State (at large) -- bye ---> #11 9-3 Florida State (at large) at #6 10-2 Michigan (at large) #4 12-1 Washington (P12 champ) -- bye ---> #15 13-0 Western Michigan (G5 autobid) at #5 11-2 Penn State (B1G champ) ...#12 9-3 Oklahoma State gets bumped for #15 Western Michigan 2015 #1 13-0 Clemson (ACC champ) -- bye ---> #9 10-2 Florida State (at large) at #8 10-2 Notre Dame (at large) #2 12-1 Alabama (SEC champ) -- bye ---> #10 11-2 North Carolina (at large) at #7 11-1 Ohio State (at large) #3 12-1 Michigan State (B1G champ) -- bye ---> #11 10-2 TCU (at large) at #6 11-2 Stanford (P12 champ) #4 11-1 Oklahoma (B12 champ) -- bye ---> #12 9-3 Ole Miss (at large) at #5 12-1 Iowa (at large) ...committee maybe moves #18 12-1 Houston to #16 to give the G5 an autobid, bumping #12 Ole Miss 2014 #1 12-1 Alabama (SEC champ) -- bye ---> #9 9-3 Ole Miss (at large) at #8 10-2 Michigan State (at large) #2 12-1 Oregon (P12 champ) -- bye ---> #10 10-3 Arizona (at large) at #7 10-2 Mississippi State (at large) #3 13-0 Florida State (ACC champ) -- bye ---> #11 9-3 Kansas State (at large) at #6 11-1 TCU (B12 co-champ / at large) #4 12-1 Ohio State (B1G champ) -- bye ---> #12 10-3 Georgia Tech (at large) at #5 11-1 Baylor (B12 co-champ / at large) ...no G5 autobids
I think college football needed a change. I agree the teams 5-12 largely won’t have a chance to win it all, but I think the playoff era has widened the gap of the haves and have nots due to the exclusivity of the playoff. The same 3-5 teams make the playoff every year and even there several of those games are blowouts. It might help the sport to have more teams in the dance and disperse recruits a bit more. Probably not, but maybe. It’s also pretty boring going into a season that we know 3/4 playoff contenders will be Bama, OSU, Clemson, Or OU pretty much without fail. These teams will still be the only ones with a chance to win it most years but at least it’s interesting to see who can make it.
The Big Ten should have started the last week of Sept and built in contingency weeks for cancelled games. But our conference is led by a guy demonstrably out of his element, so we made up arbitrary rules to qualify which we then arbitrarily changed.
As a fan of a team that doesn't matter in this one way or another the sport is fucking unbelievably boring because of the current format. More teams probably won't help. But it might.
And what are you Alabama and OSU sissies in here worried about if your teams are so good? One extra game to do the same thing you'd already do?
Yeah I’m not even speaking as a jilted fan. PSU won’t ever win a national title again in a playoff format...im sure of this. That will be the same regardless of number of teams. I’m just hoping by adding numbers it helps to create a little more parity in the sport and gives more to play for for everyone outside the top 3-5 programs, even if there’s no shot to win it all. Being in the playoff is a better recruiting pitch than not and top 12 does make it doable for an underdog to rise up and reach certainly more so than top 4. Id probably rather have 8 or 10 but 12 is better than 4.
The current version of the playoff sucks total ass. I'm not sure this version will be any better though
You’ve made it through 12 regular season games, a conference championship, earned the 1 seed. By all means we should give them one more chance to tear an ACL or break a bone in a game they’ll likely win by 24+, so fans of mediocre teams can have more fun. Seems selfish to me.
Listen. I get why you all like the status quo. Because it benefits you. A lot. But it's really really bad for the sport.
2 out of 130 teams with a legit shot to win every year is pitiful. That said, if the sport had any semblance of parity 12 would be a good number
Auto-bids make no sense if you’re trying to put the best, 4, 6, 8, or 12 into the playoffs. If we’re going to expand it then just take the poll and take the top 12. There can be qualifiers, but an automatic bid just kind of goes against the theory of the playoff