2016 NFL Draft - Who will the Browns curse this go around? (No spoilers)

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  1. Merica

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  2. Corch

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    Op is a fgt
     
  3. Corch

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    #jackoff4goff
     
  4. Merica

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    I'll wait for Todd McShay's mock draft before caring.
     
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    Ohio State looking to tie its own record by having 14 drafted this year.
     
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  10. Corch

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    Pick 32 imo
     
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    Quon and OBJ?

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    yeah that's more a luxury pick but dammit if it isnt tempting

    i would gm as if i am playing madden
     
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    Mel Kiper's 2016 NFL Mock Draft 1.0
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    Welcome to another draft season. I've been ranking this class officially on the site since May, but I know many of you don't consider draft season officially underway until mock drafts start popping up.



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    A few reminders at this (very) early stage in the game. For one, NFL personnel folks are still really early in their evaluations. Nobody has a draft board yet, and we still have postseason all-star games, combine testing, medicals and individual workouts to get through. Drafting for need isn't a great idea in most cases -- GMs really do mean it most of the time when they say, "We took the best player available" -- and I'm especially leery of making need the big issue here. Every team has at least a dozen roster moves to make (and for some, twice that), and there's also free agency. "Need" isn't a clear term yet. Lastly, there could still be an underclassmen or two who decides to jump into the draft. That said, off we go.

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    1. Tennessee Titans
    *Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio St.

    Getting the best defensive lineman in any draft really transcends need. Everyteam wants great D-linemen, and Bosa has the upside of a star. He's a dominant pass-rusher who piled up 51.0 tackles for loss over three seasons despite running into a steady supply of double-teams, and he's also outstanding against the run. You can move him around on the line at will. The son of a former first-round pick, he comes in ready to contribute.

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    2. Cleveland Browns
    *Jared Goff, QB, Cal

    It goes without saying the Browns need to take a hard look at quarterbacks, and Hue Jackson should have the chance to start fresh with someone other thanJohnny Manziel. Goff has tremendous talent and upside. He has shown off an NFL arm since he arrived at Cal and has a great mind for the game. He has also shown how resilient he can be, growing with and leading that team at Cal, which would be a great trait in Cleveland.

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    3. San Diego Chargers
    *Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss

    Ken Whisenhunt is back at offensive coordinator for the Chargers, and the immediate need for this team is going to be figuring out a way to keep Philip Rivers upright. Injuries have decimated the Chargers' offensive line, and adding Tunsil means they get an immediate starter. This kid is a flat-out gifted left tackle prospect, the kind of player who could go No. 1 overall to Tennessee. Get him here and you'll be pleased.

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    4. Dallas Cowboys
    DeForest Buckner, DE, Oregon

    It's rare to find a team picking No. 4 overall that can genuinely say, "We're in win-now mode." But the Cowboys get a healthy Tony Romo back, so that's a fair statement. If Greg Hardy isn't back, Buckner is a great fit. You get a 6-foot-7, 290-pound defensive end who can put a tackle on skates right into his own quarterback. The No. 1 thing you love about Buckner: major motor. He plays hard. He could have been taken relatively early last year, but came back and put an exclamation point on it.

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    5. Jacksonville Jaguars
    *Jalen Ramsey, DB, Florida St.

    The best player available here, Ramsey is a great corner or a great safety, a fit in any secondary given his skill set and incredible athleticism. Those athlete credentials? Well, consider that he's long-jumping at roughly an Olympic level in, essentially, a second sport that he really can't commit to full-time. A worthy top-five talent in the secondary.

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    6. Baltimore Ravens
    *Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame

    In another year Stanley would be worthy to be the first offensive tackle taken, but Tunsil gets the nod in this class. Stanley was a gifted but inconsistent player last year, and he decided to go back, which is going to work out well for him. This year, the talent is still obvious, and he was better technically, and it showed. Baltimore can't pass on a potential left tackle with Stanley's upside here given the state of the O-line, not to mention with Joe Flacco coming back from an injury.

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    7. San Francisco 49ers
    *Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss

    This is a spot where you can see the quarterback position coming into play -- or a number of positions given what happened to this roster over the past 12 months -- but if the 49ers decide to build around a QB currently on the roster with the hopes of being more competitive in 2016 (something starting a rookie QB won't help) then Treadwell could really help the offense. He has a ton of experience as a true No. 1 and against top defenses, and brings size, hands, physicality and potential for early returns.

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    8. Miami Dolphins
    *Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson

    Lawson led college football in tackles for loss with 25.5, and Miami should add another edge-rusher because Olivier Vernon is about to become extremelyexpensive if he can even be kept around as an unrestricted free agent. Lawson is just extremely consistent in his ability to beat tackles and make plays.

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    9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    *Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida

    This is just a truly gifted cover man, with the ability to press or play off and really just mirror a pass-catcher all over the place. He's been doing it since he arrived in Gainesville. The Bucs do have a need at cornerback, but there isn't a team in the NFL that wouldn't want this kind of talent on the roster.

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    10. New York Giants
    *Myles Jack, LB, UCLA

    I'll hear for the 100th time that the Giants don't draft linebackers in the first round. I'll point out that this is a good year to consider it, not just because they've had far too many draft misses in recent years, but because Jack isn't your classic downhill run-stuffer -- the guy can flat-out cover, and he epitomizes what teams need at least one of in 2016. He's a special talent and should be on their board.

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    Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama

    The Bears have a tradition of great linebackers in the middle, from Dick Butkus to Mike Singletary to Brian Urlacher (who is coming for my hair). Ragland can be the next one, and not only can he be an immediate starter in the middle, he can do so with some system familiarity coming out of Nick Saban's 3-4 defense.

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    12. New Orleans Saints
    *A'Shawn Robinson, DL, Alabama

    The Saints really need to add another versatile defensive lineman, and Robinson fits the bill. In fact, the 6-foot-3, 313-pounder is an immediate starter who combines great awareness and strength to make plays and hold the point in the run game, as well as the ability to push the pocket. There isn't a place where the Saints can go wrong adding talent on defense.

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    13. Philadelphia Eagles
    *Robert Nkemdiche, DL, Ole Miss

    Whether Nkemdiche is a great fit in Philly depends a little bit on what kind of system the new coaching staff will want to run, but with Cedric Thornton an unrestricted free agent, they'd be wise to add another talented piece to the D-line puzzle to take some pressure off Fletcher Cox, who has turned into an absolute star. Nkemdiche has that potential -- he's a top-5 talent, really -- but will need to maintain his focus off the field.

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    14. Oakland Raiders
    *Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan St.

    The Raiders have their quarterback of the future, but they could also lose a pair of tackles in free agency, and even then they'd be wise to get some immediate insurance out of the draft. Conklin has been a steady force on the MSU line for three years and is great at limiting pressure and also getting after it in the run game.

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    15. Los Angeles Rams
    *Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis

    The Rams are arguably at square one at the QB position, which is a shame given the talent elsewhere on the roster. Do I think Lynch is a Week 1 starter? Absolutely not. Do I think he has significant upside and would be a potential starter in Year 2 with a roster still on the rise? Sure. St. Louis will have their eyes open in free agency and the trade market for immediate help, but Lynch could be the future.

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    16. Detroit Lions
    Jarran Reed, DL, Alabama

    Detroit's defense began to round into form during the second half of the season, but the Lions were a mess early on as they adjusted to life without Ndamukong Suh. Reed is a player who makes you better against the run right away. He plays with leverage, can wreck running lanes along the interior of the D-line, and frees up others to make plays.

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    17. Atlanta Falcons
    *Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson

    Shaq Lawson led the nation in tackles for loss, but Dodd was right there with him, No. 2 in the nation, and a constant presence in the backfield. The Falcons added pass-rush help with Vic Beasley last year, but is Beasley an every-down player? At 275 pounds, Dodd has the frame to hold up against the run and should help a D-line that lacks depth.

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    18. Indianapolis Colts
    Taylor Decker, OT, Ohio St.

    Suffice to say the Colts should come out of this draft with at least one offensive lineman capable of stepping in early. Decker has a ton of experience -- he could have entered the draft last year and landed late in Round 1 -- and could be your Week 1 starter at left tackle in Indy. Conklin is another option if Decker goes off the board first.

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    19. Buffalo Bills
    *Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama

    Will there be a tandem under more pressure to see improvement out of a defense than the Ryan brothers in Buffalo? It's probably not close. Allen is a good get at this slot; he's a versatile D-lineman with the frame to win with quickness on occasion but also push the pocket from the interior. The Bills are going to need to retool on the D-line even beyond the draft, and Allen would be a solid addition.

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    20. New York Jets
    *Jaylon Smith, LB, Notre Dame

    By now, everyone knows that Smith suffered a knee injury in the Fiesta Bowl, and there's at least the possibility he won't play football in 2016. That said, I'm not exaggerating on the kid's behalf when I say he was arguably the best player in this entire draft. This front office will assess the risk, but it also has showed it likes to take the best player available, and Smith is an absolute monster if he's back -- a Pro Bowl-caliber talent even if he loses half a step. It's a fluid situation, but it's Mock 1.0, and I want to reflect his talent level.

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    **Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson

    Alexander has legit man-to-man coverage ability, but he needs technical work and is going to show some rough edges during his rookie year. But all cornerbacks do, and Alexander has a ton of upside. He's just a hair over 5-foot-10, so he's not a jump-ball winner, but he's powerful and will make plays in coverage and attacking the line of scrimmage.

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    22. Houston Texans
    Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota St.

    If you saw Wentz throwing it around in the SEC or Pac-12, you'd think he looked like a big-time QB prospect. At 6-foot-6 and nearly 235 pounds, he has a big arm and serious mobility and shows a willingness to be patient, move in the pocket and keep his eyes down the field as things move around him. This is a guy who could be in the top-10 mix after the Senior Bowl and combine. Houston might end up thrilled if he's around this late.

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    23. Minnesota Vikings
    Josh Doctson, WR, TCU

    The Vikings are moving indoors and Teddy Bridgewater has a chance to really take off. Do the Vikings want to pay Mike Wallace another $11.5 million to be a part of it? They have Stefon Diggs, but Doctson gives them another weapon, a guy who can stretch the field and run after the catch and has a reliable set of hands.

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    24. Cincinnati Bengals
    *Will Fuller, WR, Notre Dame

    A.J. Green is locked up for a while, but both Mohamed Sanu and Marvin Jonesare free agents, so the Bengals could be looking to add another weapon in the passing game to go with Green and Tyler Eifert. Fuller is a dynamo on the deep ball and can make a cornerback look slow when the ball is in the air. He can be a weapon after the catch as well. The knock: He needs more consistency with his hands. But he can help this team.

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    25. Pittsburgh Steelers
    *Kendall Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech

    The Steelers have been a mess on the back end for much of the season, and could add multiple cornerbacks in the draft. (Remember, they will get backSenquez Golson, however.) Fuller comes from a line of NFL players in his family (his brother is a cornerback for the Bears) and has tremendous talent. He missed much of 2015 after trying to play through a cartilage injury in his knee, but he should be in great shape for the draft process.

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    26. Seattle Seahawks
    **Eli Apple, CB, Ohio St.

    The next two guys to come off the board would also be worth considering, because age is now a concern on the interior of that defensive line, but a long, physical cornerback who is a fearless tackler is a great fit for Pete Carroll. Yes, the secondary is a strength in Seattle, but it's impossible to have too many corners who can play, and one injury changes the depth equation in a heartbeat.

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    27. Green Bay Packers
    *Austin Johnson, DT, Penn St.

    Other guys got more of the attention on the defensive line for the Nittany Lions, but Johnson is the top prospect. Green Bay heads into an offseason in whichB.J. Raji will become an unrestricted free agent and turns 30 this summer. Some youthful talent on the interior of the line would be a good thing, and Johnson fits the bill.

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    28. Kansas City Chiefs
    *Kenny Clark, DT, UCLA

    Clark is a powerful defensive tackle who can hold the point against a double-team and keep linebackers roaming free, but will also flash some explosiveness and make plays in the backfield on his own -- and he can just outmuscle blockers one on one. The Chiefs could use more help for Dontari Poe, who happens to be entering the last year of his current deal in 2016.

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    29. Denver Broncos
    *Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio St.

    There's a good chance the Broncos will evolve into a team that truly wants to win with the run game in 2016, and while they do have some options on the roster, Elliott isn't just a great fit, he's also the best player on the board at this point. He has vision, runs behind his pads, can turn a small crease into a big gain, catches the ball with ease, and is one of the best blocking tailbacks I've ever seen.

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    30. Arizona Cardinals
    *Leonard Floyd, OLB, Georgia


    The Cardinals could use another pass-rusher, and Floyd has the explosiveness to be a special one. He has a lean frame, but he can get tackles off balance and is the kind of edge defender who can get quarterbacks to speed up their internal clock. I'd like to see him play a little more physical, but on a good team that is trying to protect leads, Floyd can help.

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    31. Carolina Panthers
    *Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma St.

    For a physical freak who has improved in each year at Oklahoma State, this slot may look WAY too low in a couple of months. Ogbah is an awesome size/quickness combination and can also play a power game and push blockers backward. He has also shown he can play in space a little bit. He'd be a great get this far down the board.
     
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  14. bertwing

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    Boy I sure hope the Saints take another shitty offensive lineman with their top 15 pick
     
  15. The Banks

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    Titans need to go Tunsil not Bosa
     
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  16. Owsley

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    Not a fan of that pick for Oakland.
     
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  17. Arkadin

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    Won't happen imo
     
  18. Merica

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    Thanks man. Did he only release the first round?
     
  19. Corch

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    I just hope they don't trade out of #1. Goff is our pick unless someone moves up
     
  20. Magneto

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    If you're Tennessee you need to take the best available OL or trade down and take an OL. Until he proves otherwise you need to have durability concerns with Mariota and do everything to protect him.
     
  21. Corch

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    Wonder what it would cost to move from #2 to #1
     
  22. Arkadin

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    I don't think there's any need for that
     
  23. Magneto

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    Hasn't Cleveland learned it's lesson with Air Raid QBs between Couch, Weeden, and Billy boy?
     
  24. Corch

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    That's a pretty simple way to look at it.
     
  25. Magneto

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    No Air Raid QB has ever had more than one successful season in the NFL. Nothing about Goff screams he'll change that trend.
     
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  26. Corch

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    Drew Brees
     
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  27. Magneto

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    Purdue wasn't an Air Raid team.
     
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  28. Jake Scott

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    idk about Dodd there... After the Clemson DE we took last year, I am not sure I like that. Plus, the Clemtard Falcons fans will be even worse.
     
  29. Corch

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    Wrong
     
  30. Magneto

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  31. Owsley

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    Corch is all in on Goff...feels good to not be in that situation anymore.
     
  32. Sterling A

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    Dolphins have so many needs, and with a brand new coach I don't really know which position I would want at this time:injun:

    Shaq Lawson, Jalen, VH3 have all been mock'd to us recently
     
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  33. Dayneface

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    Jaylon or Alexander to Oakland imo
     
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  34. Owsley

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    Jaylon
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  35. soulfly

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    Seahawks drafting a CB in the 1st :loldog:

    I imagine they'll try to replace Mebane
     
  36. Futureman

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    Laremy gave up 2 sacks in his college career. 1 to Carl Lawson as a freshman and 1 to Derek Barnett as a sophomore. Dude is a sure thing and someone is going to pick Goff ahead of him.
     
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    VH3 eh? Ok I'll take it.
     
  38. Corch

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    Doubtful
     
  39. Corch

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    If you read the smartfootball article on the Air Raid, you'll notice there is a specific reference to what Purdue was doing at the time and the similarities.

    "Air Raid QB's" have not had a lot of success because very few P5 programs have run that style of offense attracting less talented players.

    If you want to talk about the Browns QB's and their history with Air Raid QB's, Tim Couch was not a bad QB, he got the Browns to playoffs, he just had very little help around him and got killed. Weeden is garbage and had no business going in the first 3 rounds, he was terrible at the Sr. Bowl. Johnny Manziel was actually pretty good this year when he played he just didn't have anything around him and he has his off field issues.

    What have you seen out of Goff that makes you think he's not going to be a solid NFL QB?
     
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  40. Corch

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    Jaylon and Khalil on the same D would be really great to watch.

    I'm hoping the Browns move back up to get Jaylon if he falls past 15.
     
  41. dallasdawg

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    Tons of elite talent this year IMO, should be an awesome draft
     
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  42. DaveGrohl

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    Really, really hoping some team falls in love with a QB before the draft and trades with the Titans. The Jon Robinson hire gives me hope though.
     
  43. D. Silver

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    Ragland or the best CB available for the Redskins, please and thank you.
     
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  44. Corch

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    The Browns almost traded Joe Thomas to the Broncos for a 1st round pick right around the trade deadline. I think that thought process has changed with a new regime but I wouldn't be surprised to see Cleveland move him for a first with Denver or GB.
     
  45. The Banks

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    Of those 32, who do you think will bust?
     
  46. stangd

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    Fuck a Bosa, give me Tunsil.
     
  47. Clown Baby

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    2/3 QBs and maybe Nkemdiche if the reports of him being a headcase are true
     
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  48. The Banks

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    Which QBs
     
  49. gowolverines8

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    Insiders in Denver think those talks will resume.
     
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  50. Corch

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    Good give us that first and something else