***2017 MLB Thread: It was impressive how close Jim Joyce was to making the right call***

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by teel, Apr 2, 2017.

  1. MG2

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    Hard to talk a ton about the future plans of the Yankees when their GM is in the last year of his contract and could leave for another job if someone wants to pay him Theo money.
     
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  2. fish

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    The Dodgers aren't interested in big name free agents. We grow our own. #Agonisgone #Hanleynotsohandy #Mannysplaining
     
  3. Bankz

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    Do you think some teams will attempt to do 40+ per over a shorter term? Teams have seen what deals like ARod and Albert have done to the teams on the back end.
     
  4. dblplay1212

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    Few teams have the resources the Yankees have and none of those teams will have as much room to add as the Yankees will. And I clearly said it was a dream, but it's not nearly as unrealistic as you seem to think it is.
     
  5. dblplay1212

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    Arod and Albert were 30+. Harper and Machado will be much younger.
     
  6. Gunners

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    If they're gonna continue with the loaded baseballs then makes no sense to spend $40 mil on a superstar when there's so many good hitters in the league now. Just my :twocents:

    Why not get good youngsters for a lot of years on a low number over paying an insane amount for a slightly better player.

    I'm all for giving Machado $30+ a year though, he's all the Orioles have right now.
     
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  7. MG2

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    I'm sure teams would love to keep the term shorter, but that's not how the game works in MLB FA. All these agents have gotten smart like LeBron and gotten massive long term deals with opt outs that give them all the leverage. You're not getting Bryce Harper or Manny Machado without guaranteeing 10+ years with an opt out somewhere between years 3-5.
     
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  8. Bankz

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    No one is saying the Yankees don't have the resources to make it happen. But as you even admit they aren't alone anymore. You have a handful of teams willing to pay crazy money and maybe another handful like Miami, Philadelphia who may be able to unleash crazy money for one of them. And you say it's only a dream but you currently are making the case as to why its more than a dream including quoting bullshit responses by Machado.
     
  9. MG2

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    It would be kind of fascinating to see what could happen if an MLB player went full mercenary mode similar to LeBron's run in Cleveland and just signed 1 year deals for the max amount of money for at 3-4 years. If Harper just said "fuck it, I'm going to the highest bidder for 2019 and then going back on the market," would someone give him $60M?
     
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  10. Jigga

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    It wasn't even the best catch made yesterday
     
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  11. 49ers169

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    If that is the case can't it be argued, and seems likely, it will never be back to business as George would have it?

    It isn't like when you reset the luxury tax that you will never be in that situation again. From everything I have gathered the Yankees new ownership seem to be aligning their spending habits similar to how the Red Sox have done it since the implementation of the luxury tax. Which is essentially treat the luxury tax as more of less the salary cap.

    Spend a lot still but always be cognizant of the number and avoid significant penalties by being over multiple years. Being over in one year is fine but the next make sure you are under type of a deal.

    Tying up that much money in two players seems a little extreme if that is the thinking which could kill flexibility as the young guys get raises through arbitration/extensions.
     
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  12. Rammer Jammer

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    White Soxs trading Frazier to Boston getting close per Nightengale
     
  13. bwi2

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    Harper said he doesn't like New York City last week so please stop these scandalous rumors, thx
     
  14. Rammer Jammer

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    What would be a good return for Frazier?
     
  15. dblplay1212

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    Nm
     
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  16. Wallcoq

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    A thank you note.
     
  17. tradercane

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    You have also done a terrible job in the draft and have pretty much ignored the international market.
     
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  18. Boo MFer!

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    Cornelius Suttree, if you had your druthers, where would you want Sonny to land? I mean, best spot for him, not necessarily your personal interests.
     
  19. Cornelius Suttree

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    Houston

    Love watching them and he would be on a contender

    Or Boston so I could invite him over to smoke with me
     
  20. IanC

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    Yeah, didn't the Orioles leave like $1mm in unused draft pool money on the table in recent years? On top of just flat out ignoring the international market?
     
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  21. tradercane

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    I know that they sold a couple of international bonus slots to the Brewers for scrub minor leaguers.
     
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  22. theregionsitter

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    Anybody need an outfielder?

    Melky Cabrera now has the major-league lead with eight outfield assists and is hitting .346 with five HR, 22 RBI and 22 runs scored over his last 32 games.
     
  23. JeremyLambsFace

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    We can't be thinking of the same Melky Cabrera
     
  24. Rammer Jammer

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    Bird finally having ankle surgery should have done this about a month ago imo
     
  25. dblplay1212

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    Yea probably so. I knew both were coming but getting the "out for season" for both Bird and Pineda today sucked.
     
  26. Fidelio

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    slippers
     
  27. theregionsitter

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    Same one
     
  28. BiMaleStripper

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    Hasn't the MLB players share of revenue declined to like 42% from like 57% in the early 2000's?
     
  29. teel

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    You would think Brian McCann wouldn't kill something that quietly stays in the dugout

     
  30. Fidelio

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    baseball players rule
     
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  31. fish

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    FYI, players only test the arms that they think aren't great.
     
  32. bcuga

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  34. Bankz

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    cubs played some good ball up in Baltimore. Hopefully that continues. First time getting a look at the new park. How do the fans like it?
     
  35. Wallcoq

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    Most fans of the Os could post in shit old people do thread.
     
  36. bcuga

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    Braves have been playing well too. Just swept Arizona. I have only been to one game, but I really enjoyed the stadium. Pretty ordinary looking, but a lot more stuff to do and places to hang out at.
     
  37. Bankz

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    Should be a good series. Nice pitching matchup tonight
     
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  38. teel

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    First thing I always think of when the Yanks are in Minnesota

     
  39. Ned Yocho

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    :roll: that's amazing
     
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  40. QuackAttack

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    Nats #1 prospect Victor Robles removed from Potomac game in 4th inning. Sounds like something is about to pop off.
     
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  41. MG2

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    JD Martinez was also removed in the 6th inning of the Tigers/Royals game. With our luck, he probably got hurt and is about to go on the DL.
     
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  42. Rammer Jammer

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  43. Ned Yocho

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    Reporting lower back injury.
     
  44. Rammer Jammer

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  45. bwi2

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    Thank god.
     
  46. MG2

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    [​IMG]
     
  47. Gunners

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    What does this even mean?
     
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  48. Rammer Jammer

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