2017 SEC Football Discussion

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Dairy Queen, Dec 5, 2016.

  1. wes tegg

    wes tegg 49% Washington State Fan
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    They're probably the fourth best team in the conference. If they win 8+ this year, which they almost certainly will, they can't fire him.
     
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  2. lechnerd

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    I don’t think it’s crazy, we are the richest athletics program in the nation https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/schools-most-revenue-college-sports-2016-10
    We are an hour away from the 2nd hottest recruiting hotbed (Houston) in the country behind Miami, we are an SEC school, we have top notch facilities, a brand new stadium, 100k fans attend each game, and it’s completely acceptable to wear denim overalls on campus. Why shouldn’t we expect 10 wins?
     
  3. Gallant Knight

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    because the school is in college station texas and the fans are a bunch of fucking weirdos.
     
  4. Dairy Queen

    Dairy Queen God save Lavender Lane
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    I don't know...if he goes 8-4 they could definitely fire him...maybe even if they go 9-3
     
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  5. TC

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    :lolhog: (This is at UVA Law)
     
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  6. TAS

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    Sumlin's PR team is firing on all cylinders right now
     
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  7. Dairy Queen

    Dairy Queen God save Lavender Lane
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    It isn't unreasonable for them to expect a single ten win season in 5 years
     
  8. lechnerd

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    Man our 6 game winning streak vs Arkansas has really brought out the rage.
     
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  9. Gallant Knight

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    eh, i've hated aggies since i was 5.
     
  10. Redav

    Redav No puppet. No puppet. You're the puppet.
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    I don't really see why Tamu couldn't win 10 at least every other year.
     
  11. wes tegg

    wes tegg 49% Washington State Fan
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    I know they can. I just think that doing so will be a tremendous gamble, especially considering the market this year.
     
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  12. Gallant Knight

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    you've obviously never been to college station.
     
  13. Gallant Knight

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    fire sumlin and end up with another fran. please do this.
     
  14. wes tegg

    wes tegg 49% Washington State Fan
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    They'd done it eleven times in 118 years before he got there.
     
  15. BayouMafia

    BayouMafia Honor is dead. But I'll see what I can do.
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    Orgeron's is the same situation except it prorates per season rather than per month. If he was fired today the buyout is $12milion and change. If he gets fired at the end of the season it's $8.5 million or so.
     
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  16. Dairy Queen

    Dairy Queen God save Lavender Lane
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    Do any of you coonasses suspect that Special Ed and Alleva formed a suicide pact to split the buyout money?
     
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  17. bertwing

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    That's still such a big figure for an egghead like him. After Les last year I can't imagine paying another 8 digit buyout
     
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  18. Rapeswithasmile

    Rapeswithasmile tell em fuck em i never loved em and salutations
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    i like the helmets, but everything else looks like something Bishop Don Juan would wear to the Player Hater's Ball.
     
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  19. wes tegg

    wes tegg 49% Washington State Fan
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    That's why I like the shoes.
     
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  20. TheFreak55

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  21. Owsley

    Owsley My friends call me Bear
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    The 10 win mark is really outdated when trying to make these comparisons now. I’d say an achievable goal for aTm would be 9-3 with a chance to make a run every 3-4 years. Basically what Auburn is.
     
  22. wes tegg

    wes tegg 49% Washington State Fan
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    That's pretty much A&M now, too.
     
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  23. lechnerd

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    1973 is commonly referred to as the start of the modern era of college football because that is when scholarship limits were put in place. We had a grand total of TWO ten-win seasons in the eighty years before 1973. We have had TEN ten-win seasons since 1973.

    Clearly we are a different school. Our original purpose was to get men ready for the war and when we were at peace teach people how to be a farmer. It’s disingenuous to look at our program and extrapolate data from 118 years ago and try and predict where we are headed.

    I’m certainly biased but I think we have some dry tinder ready for a match. Look how easy and fast Sumlin got things going with Johnny in year one. The pieces are there at A&M but like any program we need the right guy to come along and make it work.
     
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  24. wes tegg

    wes tegg 49% Washington State Fan
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    If we're going since 1973, RC Slocum had half of the ten win seasons. The point was that winning ten games every other year is a realistic expectation for only a handful of programs. A&M ain't one of them.
     
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  25. Owsley

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    A&M has been much closer to Ole Miss or Arkansas over the past 20 years or so.
     
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  26. lechnerd

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    I think long term (25+ years) averaging it out that’s a safe bet.

    I’m arguing more short term (10 years) with the right coach it’s definitely doable. And you mentioned Slocum, from ‘89 to ‘98 he averaged 10 win seasons every other year. And with our current climate I think it’s much more doable.

    But again it comes down to the right coach, as it does with every program. And there’s the rub, trying to catch lighting in a bottle.
     
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  27. wes tegg

    wes tegg 49% Washington State Fan
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    Definitely. Until they hired Sumlin.
     
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  28. wes tegg

    wes tegg 49% Washington State Fan
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  29. wes tegg

    wes tegg 49% Washington State Fan
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    I guess what I'm saying is this -- if y'all fire Sumlin, I want him.
     
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  30. BayouMafia

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    well it would be a 7 digit buyout, but he's not getting fired this year regardless
     
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  31. TAS

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    Have you skipped the last 3 A&M-Ole Miss games?
     
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  32. wes tegg

    wes tegg 49% Washington State Fan
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    I'm under no delusion that my team should never lose a game.
     
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  33. Gallant Knight

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    Same
     
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  34. TAS

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    Yeah that's not at all what I'm saying. I just don't get how you can watch those games and think "I want that guy"
     
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  35. Redav

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    I don't really think the past dictates the future. It's a pretty broad idea anyway but there's no reason to think they couldn't which is what I was saying. They have facilities, money, recruiting base, etc...
     
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  36. High Cotton

    High Cotton Where does this fall in our Christian walk?
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    TAMU is in the SEC and we're still trying to see if we can use the 25th Amendment to kick y'all back out for your craziness and lack of contributions.
     
  37. lechnerd

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    Name me one other team that has held a 34 pt lead on the road against a PAC-12 school this year. Thanks I’ll hang up and listen.

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  38. dump

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    name one thing Auburn has done except brought Tennessee level embarrassment
     
  39. Dairy Queen

    Dairy Queen God save Lavender Lane
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    I think this is perhaps giving Sumlin too much credit. He definitely deserves some, but A&M's stature far outpaces his contributions and at some point they're going to have to go in another direction if he's just going to be a slightly shittier version of Gus Malzahn.
     
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  40. LeonardWashington

    LeonardWashington every year gon be our year
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    Raised the average ACT scores and 40 yard dash times of this thread dramatically, for one
     
  41. dump

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    Plus if he didnt inherit Johnny and Mike Evans than he wouldnt have had the success he did have
     
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  42. High Cotton

    High Cotton Where does this fall in our Christian walk?
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  43. dump

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    Without A&M y’all would still have the Chiz as HC soooo
     
  44. High Cotton

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  45. Boom TittyMilk

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    Fortunately that allows yall to still have sumlin
     
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  46. Euro Jolly

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    Would much rather have Sumlin than Special Gus
     
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  47. TheFreak55

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    I'll play your game:
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  48. Dairy Queen

    Dairy Queen God save Lavender Lane
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    Y'all don't even let blacks play qb at Georgia...certainly wouldn't hire one as head coach
     
  49. Redav

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    Don't tell DJ Shockley or Quincy Carter.
     
  50. the Weimar Beer Belly

    the Weimar Beer Belly everything is good here/please come home

    I remember when you guys used to say that about Alabama