2018-19 NBA Thread: AD to LAL

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  1. CaneKnight

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    I can’t believe they put him out there with an Achilles injury. That’s just incredible to me
     
  2. Josey Wales

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    Kawhi was a huge pussy for not playing last year.
     
  3. dathalfnukkahd

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    I saw him last year a few times at the ESPN studios in LA and he looks so much worse in real life. The dude has trouble walking and just moped around like a fucking slug
     
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  4. Crepeswithasmile

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    they put him out there with a calf injury, they carried him off with an Achilles injury :twocents:
     
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  5. dump

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    As a fan of a team who won it on the road (#Miami Heat ) I completely disagree
     
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  6. laxjoe

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    and that's probably how id feel. unfortunately, my teams have never won a championship at home or on the road:feelsbadman:.

    so i only have my feelings as a neutral fan. and as a neutral fan, i've always liked championships won on the home court so they can celebrate with the home crowd.
     
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  7. Detlef Schrempf

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    It’s really surprising that they didn’t think this was a possibility. Zach Lowe has mentioned the fear of rushing him back due to turning the calf injury into an Achilles injury as a worthwhile thing to consider multiple times on his podcast since Durant was hurt initially. Hard to believe this wasn’t a stronger consideration by the warriors staff or KD’s people.
     
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  8. dump

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    I’m shocked he came back after they iced down his calf after the first 5 minutes
     
  9. Arkadin

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    Kd wanted to play. He wants to win. He clearly felt good. He was dancing and dunking and was not showing signs of worry

    Sometimes shit happens
     
  10. MG2

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    There's a lot of stuff people can say about Kevin Durant, and I've said a lot of them. The guy loves playing basketball, though. I have a really hard time believing the Warriors pushed him to play when he wasn't comfortable doing so, or that he played because he felt outside pressure. The guy loves basketball and wanted to play. Maybe they shouldn't have let him, but we also don't know what conversations took place before he was cleared. Maybe they told him this was a possibility and he was fine with it.
     
  11. Detlef Schrempf

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    I think this is the point. Sometimes you have to protect people from themselves, returning early from a significant calf injury leads to a strong possibility of an Achilles injury, I don’t think it’s hindsight to say it was probably a bad choice, it’s something they should’ve been overly careful with from the jump.
     
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  12. Arkadin

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    He's going to exercise his option, rehab for 10 months, then show up for the playoffs and win another title while the knicks tank for another year then leave isn't he
     
  13. Lyrtch

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    im confused by people thinking durant won't have a bunch of max deals the second free agency starts due to this injury
     
  14. MG2

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    Sure, but there's also an element to injuries like that where you don't really know where you're at until you actually try it out.

    Just seems like this was an incredibly difficult situation for everyone involved, and the worst possible outcome occurred.
     
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  15. Crepeswithasmile

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  16. CaneKnight

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    Ehhhh I don’t believe that it was just a calf injury and I think they knew that as well
     
  17. Crepeswithasmile

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    I don't think anyone believes he won't have max offers, but what Arkadin said really does make a lot of sense for him. Get paid 31 million to rehab, and then possibly come back at the end of the season for another playoff run.
     
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  18. Crepeswithasmile

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  19. Crepeswithasmile

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    [​IMG]
     
  20. hood b. goode

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    Klay also wanted to play in game 3, they said no.

    I have a hard time believing they would've rushed Curry out in that situation.

    So..
     
  21. hood b. goode

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    About 4-5 levels of people failed Durant last night. The trainers / medical staff, the front office, kerr, Durant's inner circle, his teammates... Myers deserves the most blame tho.

    They saw that man as a hired gun. If Durant put pen to paper on that extension literally all of the above people wouldve barred him from playing.
     
  22. CaneKnight

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    How is it Tin foil hat when the guy is going into FA and it would make sense to withhold that kind of information
     
  23. MG2

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    They would have let Klay play in game 3 if it was an elimination game. They've let Curry play when he wasn't 100% over the years. If you're implying "they pushed Durant because he's a FA so who cares", I guess I just don't agree.
     
  24. dump

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    Kate Upton
     
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  25. Arkadin

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    Nah. They went to a shit load of doctors and ran a bunch of tests and presented all of the information. It's unfortunate what happened but KD wanted to play and he was well informed and no one made him do anything he didn't want to do. There is no reason to have to blame someone for unfortunate events
     
  26. dump

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    sometimes shit happens man
     
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  27. Gaknight

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    For example the Hawks in the middle of a rebuild and cash to burn next summer would offer him a max and let him sit next season.
     
  28. Crepeswithasmile

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    what good is withholding that info, though? it's not like a team is going to give him $150 million dollars without him getting checked out head to toe before hand.
     
  29. Crepeswithasmile

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    well i feel like an idiot.
     
  30. hood b. goode

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    Durant hadn’t played or done significant basketball activity for a month. putting him into the middle of the Finals at full intensity on a leg that wasnt good enough under 72 hours ago was dumb, and to not have a minutes restriction was malpractice.
     
  31. Arkadin

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    He clearly felt good. Interesting I don't see you criticizing him choosing to dunk and dance on what you believe was a bum leg that shouldn't have that level of activity
     
  32. MG2

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    I'll agree with the minutes thing. Kerr playing him 12 of the first 14 minutes is more worthy of blame than the trainers allowing him to play, IMO.
     
  33. hood b. goode

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    You realize the job of the doctor is to overrule what the player wants, right?
     
  34. Arkadin

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    KD is a veteran player and he's not an idiot. To pretend that he's not capable of assessing the information and knowing how his body feels is pretty fucking condescending
     
  35. Arkadin

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    And if they felt like he wasn't ready to go they wouldn't let him play. That's the fucking point. You can do everything right and still have bad shit happen
     
  36. TwoPoor

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    And also letting him go iso mode and put extra strain on the leg. They should have told him his job on offense is to stand in the corner and that dribbling the ball would get him pulled
     
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  37. Crepeswithasmile

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    if his last MRI showed no structural damage and he felt like he could go then i don't see why he wouldn't be cleared to play. unless they just flat out missed something on his imaging that would have led them to keep him out, blaming the training staff is dumb.
     
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  38. hood b. goode

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    feel free to look at it that way, but we all know they were dead in the water without him. Maybe he was feeling the pressure to save his team in an elimination game

    And they didn't do a cautious enough jump of ramping up a rusty player, is my fucking point. Full throttle with the game plan. So no, they "didn't do everything right".
     
  39. TC

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    Kevin Durant gets struck by lightning: “Warriors shouldn’t have let him go outside”
     
  40. hood b. goode

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    fucking thank you
     
  41. Crepeswithasmile

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    he was dancing like a fucking extra in footloose and throwing down alley oops in warm ups, he obviously felt like he could play.

    shit happened.

    it's no one's fault.
     
  42. Arkadin

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    Again, everyone who actually knows the doctors and the people involved disagrees with you. There's a reason they're known as one of the most cautious staffs in all of sports.
    They didn't do a good enough job of restricting his dancing these doctors committed malpractice
     
  43. Gaknight

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    Dumbest comparison ever
     
  44. TwoPoor

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    Does dunking in warmups when you're 7 feet tall with inspector gadget arms even put strain on your legs? I just don't think that is compelling evidence that last night's injury was a freak occurrence we couldn't possibly have seen coming. It honestly reminds me a lot of RG3 his rookie year
     
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  45. petere1588

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    Guess what the number one risk factor is for injury? Previous injury of the same thing. Was he all the way back to normal? Probably not. Could the same thing (torn achilles) happen with him at 100%? Absolutely. The training and medical staff are also pros; the best of the best. Sometimes shit happens.

    I am a PT and do return to sport testing all the time on HS and college athletes. You do whatever you can to prepare them and get everything to measure out how it should. There still is inherent risk with sports. No ones fault, just unfortunate.
     
  46. hood b. goode

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    :laugh:

    Speaking of dancing, I love you how danced around my points. Is the concept of ramping up an athlete after a long layoff too much to grasp or something?

    We're done here.
     
  47. Crepeswithasmile

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    he was catching oops and swinging from the rim, he wasn't just walking up and dropping them over the rim like he was going through a lay up drill.
     
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  48. dump

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    this sounds like another white man letting the black man down kind of thing
     
  49. Arkadin

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    I did not. You seem to think KD is incompetent ad well as literally everyone else involved in this decision. I disagree with you. There is nothing I can do to quench your desire to assign blame to someone and be outraged about an unfortunate event, you're going to want to have someone to yell about no matter what I say
     
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