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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Celemo, Jun 24, 2018.
Kings fans are still not over Boogie
Yeah no one is taking on that contract. I'm confident that Griffin/Langdon will make the right move. But you didn't even ask me what I thought? Proceed.
That NBA trade website is cool/addicting/ridiculous.
Below is a three-team deal between my Pels, Lakers and Wizards. Would never happen but here you go:
Ok but they let a guy who wears a turban sit in the front row
We sent him flowers. Is that better?
And yes I was hiding from this thread today. That one stung
This era self awareness from athletes is nice. Talking about Cousins comments in that article.
It’s really pushed the player empowerment movement in this decade.
wow fuck off Wendel Clark
LETS GO WARRIORS
Mahimi is probably the deal that’s getting dumped by the Wizards
Cant say I disagree with them
GO TO HELL CANADA
Soorry not soorry
Kemba in Dallas would be fun.
Just saying Dump, you're own analysts were saying it as well.
Kemba in LA. Do it, pussies!
Kawakami getting roasted
This Phiippean basketball league is hilarious to watch. Its basically 2 shitty Philippean players with American players. The American players just talk shit to each other and shoot every shot
Terrance Jones is just jacking up 3s and taking it to the rim and getting fouled '
And then missing all his free throws
Lakers would have to bring up their G-League squad to make a full roster.
But what does poor paul have to say?
Translation- since the Lakers are so incompetent I will continue to kill his trade value until these idiots can convince the Pelicans to trade for him.
anyone with insider want to post this, please?
Does Jason ever go after Simmons for questioning the severity of athletes' injuries?
no because Bill gave him a job
I say the Celtics should absolutely trade good assets for a rental of AD.
Not sure how many people still have insider mang.
Can’t copy and paste on my phone well, but the article was super shitty when I glanced at it earlier.
Really don't remember the last insider article that came of as more than speculative clickbait. #sad
NBA: Gasol was fouled in last minute of Game 5
OAKLAND, Calif. -- The NBA said the Toronto Raptors' Marc Gasol should have been given two free throws with 49 seconds left of Game 5 of the NBA Finals in Toronto, a game that the Raptors lost to the Golden State Warriors by one point on Monday.
Gasol was fouled by the Warriors' DeMarcus Cousins on a drive, the NBA said in its Last Two Minute Report that was issued Tuesday. Gasol missed the shot and tumbled to the floor, but no foul was called.
Golden State led 106-103 at the time. The Warriors wound up prevailing 106-105, staving off elimination and sending the series back to Oracle Arena for Game 6 on Thursday night.
The NBA said Cousins moved into Gasol, "initiating contact that affects his driving shot attempt."
I dont even think that was a questions because it was very obvious. Thanks for getting me worked up and the games not even tonight
The L2M report is really just to piss off fans. So dumb
I am anti Team Boogie but I also think calling a moving screen in that instance was bullshit so it all evens out
I cant talk about that play because I never saw the replay I was jumping and screaming so loud. Then had my head in my shirt.
is she related to a retarded, alcoholic ESPN CBB analyst
i agree with this but I also hate how they just never call moving screens despite players getting more and more egregious with them
Why? He set a very obvious moving screen
That screen was no different than 100 other screens set for both teams shooters. To not call it until under 20 sec was egregious even though it was the proper call
He and probably every other player on the court had done so repeatedly in the course of that game. And every game of the season. Calling it there was bullshit.
The New Orleans Pelicans are looking for All-Stars, young players with star potential and multiple first-round draft picks in an Anthony Davis trade, according to a report by ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.
Which teams can swing the best trades, and what would those deals look like? Potential Davis trades could be complicated by the fact that Pelicans executive vice president of basketball operations David Griffin isn't convinced that one team can deliver everything on his check box, so a multiteam trade might be necessary.
What should the New York Knicks, Los Angeles Lakers and other top trade contenders offer? And which franchises should get involved in a three-team deal?
Our NBA experts give five trades that work, including eight teams and multiple draft picks.
More: What AD trade contenders can actually offer
New York Knicks
Pelicans get: Matthew Dellavedova, Billy Garrett, Frank Ntilikina, Dennis Smith Jr., Cedi Osman, 2019 No. 3 pick, 2021 Dallas first-round pick, 2022 Milwaukee first-round pick (top-10 protected 2022 and 2023, top-8 protected in 2024, otherwise 2024 and 2025 second-round picks)
Knicks get: Anthony Davis
Cavaliers get: Kevin Knox
Kevin Pelton: This turns into a three-team trade because the Pelicans may not value Knox as highly as other teams. So after getting Knox, Ntilikina and Smith from the Knicks along with this year's No. 3 pick and the 2021 unprotected Mavericks pick, Griffin also flips Knox to his former team. In exchange for sending out Knox and taking back Dellavedova's salary -- helping the Cavaliers avoid the luxury tax -- New Orleans gets Osman, a Griffin draft pick in the last year of a cheap contract at $2.9 million, and takes an interesting gamble on the Milwaukee pick that won't convey until after Giannis Antetokounmpo hits unrestricted free agency.
The net result for the Pelicans is they add young talent at point guard and small forward, this year's No. 3 pick and have two extra first-round picks coming down the road. That's a steep price for New York to pay, but the Knicks get to hold on to center Mitchell Robinson and could complete this deal as structured 30 days after signing the No. 3 pick to use his salary for matching purposes. That would allow the Knicks to sign a pair of max free agents before adding Davis, creating a top-heavy superteam.
Cleveland adds a second top-10 pick from last year's draft, although both were sub-replacement performers as rookies, and hopes that if Antetokounmpo re-signs in Milwaukee, the Bucks' first-round pick will end up in the late 20s. In that case, the Cavaliers could be getting Knox at a heavy discount relative to where he was drafted.
Los Angeles Lakers
Lakers get: Anthony Davis
Pelicans get: Brandon Ingram, 2019 No. 4 pick, 2019 No. 6 pick
Suns get: Lonzo Ball, Josh Hart
Bobby Marks: While this deal falls short of Griffin's checklist, it does provide strong value with two top-6 picks (on top of the No. 1 pick New Orleans already owns) and a player in Ingram who at times displayed All-Star potential before undergoing thoracic outlet decompression surgery in March. The trade also would leave New Orleans with $24 million to use in free agency.
For the Lakers, the question comes down to timing. Because the incoming and outgoing salaries do not match the $27.1 million Davis contract, this trade would be finalized after July 6 when the moratorium is lifted and the 2019-20 salary-cap calendar goes into effect. For the Lakers to maximize cap space, their $32.5 million in available room would have to be used first on one or multiple free agents, and then the trade with the Pelicans would be completed 30 days after the No. 4 pick in the draft sign his contract. Reversing the order costs the Lakers losing $4.8 million in cap flexibility.
After debating about which direction to go at No. 6, Phoenix enters the picture in this deal. Despite Ball having two fewer years on his contract compared to a first-rounder in June, the former No. 2 overall pick gives the Suns their starting point guard of the future. Phoenix also would add much-needed depth off the bench with the addition of Hart. The Suns' front office would need to weigh the long-term impact of Ball compared to players such as Coby White, Cam Reddish, Jarrett Culver, De'Andre Hunter and Darius Garland -- five players who will be in Phoenix's draft range.
Clippers get: Anthony Davis
Suns get: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Pelicans get: Danilo Gallinari, Josh Jackson, Jerome Robinson, 2019 No. 6 pick, 2020 LA first-round pick*, 2021 Miami first-round pick
*LA would have to wait until after the 2019 draft to trade this pick.
Andrew Han: Anthony Davis finally gets to LA -- and for one of the teams that was on his original list of four franchises. New Orleans gets a second chance to utilize forward-thinking trade assets eight years after sending Chris Paul to the Clippers for picks and young players. And though the best thing to come of that exchange was its ability to be bad enough to draft AD, Griffin & Co. should be savvy enough to build around the soon-to-be Pelican Zion Williamson with a second high lottery pick and two additional picks in subsequent years.
For the Suns, a reliable playmaking lead guard has been coveted for years to pair with Devin Booker. And while some might think trading the No. 6 pick for last season's No. 11 pick would be a net loss, Gilgeous-Alexander proved himself to be not just one of the best point guard prospects, but one of the best prospects in a deep 2018 draft class.
For Lawrence Frank, Michael Winger and the Clips, this is a cut-and-dried affair. If there is reasonable evidence that Davis will re-sign with the Clippers, the opportunity to pair a perennial MVP candidate with a max salary slot is the reason why prescient front offices collect assets. Add to that the deepest bench in the league and Los Angeles would immediately sport at least one title contender.
Nuggets get: Anthony Davis
Pelicans get: Gary Harris, Monte Morris, Malik Beasley, Michael Porter Jr., 2021 Denver first-round pick, 2022 Denver second-round pick, 2023 Denver second-round pick
Kevin Arnovitz: Last summer, the Toronto Raptors affirmed that very good teams, sometimes, must gamble if they want to break their ceiling. Toronto had every reason to believe that Kawhi Leonard's long-term interest in remaining a Raptor was nil, yet the Raptors shipped out their franchise player and bet on the strength of their organization. Leonard might still depart, but nobody can take away what the Raptors achieved in 2019.
Like the Raptors, the Nuggets are a very good team that, with the addition of a superstar, would become a title favorite in 2020. Like Toronto in the imagination of Leonard, Denver isn't a destination for which Davis has any preference. Yet winning is a powerful potion -- particularly for a player like Davis who has exactly one career win after April. Win the West with Davis, and dare him to dive into the Lakers vortex to play alongside 35-year-old LeBron James.
The Pelicans would receive two-way shooting guard Gary Harris, who turns 25 in September, on a very fair contract, along with two inexpensive guards with some upside in Beasley and Morris. The Pelicans can afford to be patient with Porter, who continues to recover from a debilitating back injury, but whose raw talent remains tantalizing. Denver's picks don't figure to be lottery selections, but with the best defensive backcourt in basketball, Williamson an emerging star, and cap space galore once Solomon Hill and E'Twaun Moore come off the books next summer, the calculus has changed: The Pelicans are rebuilding on the fly at high speed.
Portland Trail Blazers
Blazers get: Anthony Davis, E'Twaun Moore, Jahlil Okafor
Pelicans get: CJ McCollum, Jusuf Nurkic, 2019 No. 25 pick, 2021 Portland first-round pick
André Snellings: In this deal, the Blazers become the next team to push in all their chips for a guaranteed season with a superstar. The Davis-Damian Lillard combo would make them contenders immediately, with both stars at the peak of their powers and starving for a title. Plus, like the Raptors, Portland has an outstanding fan base that would welcome Davis with open arms. And if Davis doesn't decide to stay, the Trail Blazers have a lot of expiring deals and would then have the opportunity to almost start fresh around Lillard, who reportedly is interested in signing an upcoming supermax extension.
On the Pelicans' side, McCollum is an All Star-caliber player who has averaged 24.4 PPG during his last three playoff appearances in a secondary role. McCollum is entering his peak at only 27 years old, he's an excellent scorer who would be an outstanding fit next to Williamson and would also form a very intriguing backcourt with Jrue Holiday. Nurkic is only 24. He averaged 15 points and almost 10 rebounds in his two-plus seasons in Portland, and he was rounding into one of the better young big men in the NBA before his leg injury. Both are foundation-level players, and the two draft picks help round out the deal.
thank you sir.
For the Nuggs I lean heavily towards patience and just letting the core develop before doing anything drastic but a Jokic-Davis front court is pretty fucking tantalizing
Melo Ball is a projected top 3 pick in 2020? LOLLLLLLLLLLL
Tall as shit
No real high school experience
No college experience
Cannot play team basketball
I've never seen Zach Collins set a screen that didn't get called for moving