2018-2019 Champions League Thread

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  1. Bankz

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    My dad made the argument that the ball hits his chest then hits the upper arm. If his arm is next to his body and not out wide it still likely hits the same spot. The ball makes contact with the upper shoulder area not the lower arm where it was extended out.
     
  2. PeterGriffin

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    It’s a penalty by the current set up of the rules. I can in the same breath say it was soft and I had a hope that var would overturn it once I saw it hit his chest first. And I know it takes no part in the decision but no one was on the other end of that cross and Mane was just aiming to hit his arm. That is extremely subjective and shouldn’t be a part of the decision making process but it must be said.

    Also, I don’t want the flow of the game interrupted but I am regularly disappointed when the ref doesn’t go to the monitor to at least take another look.

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  3. SugarShaun

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    Isn’t that on the video ref though? Aren’t they supposed to tell the ref when he needs to take a look at something?

    For a clear and obvious error. I don’t see any way that’s a clear and obvious error
     
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  4. SugarShaun

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    How did I find myself defending a Liverpool penalty call and referees at 11PM on Saturday night?

    What am I doing with my life
     
  5. Cawgs or Gie!

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    Firmino was there but he wasn't going to do shit regardless. Tough call but fair.
     
  6. PeterGriffin

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    You know I watched the call again and the ball would definitely have cleared over Firmino but Salah was at the top of the box on the far side. My mistake.
     
  7. Room 15

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    TYFYS
     
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  8. Pasta88

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    I thought the penalty was the right decision, but just an extreme case of bad luck for Spurs given the moment. Pretty much the same thing with the Kimpembe handball in PSG United.
     
  9. NoleNBlue

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    That sixth one was tits mate
     
  10. Frank Martin

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    You’re welcome to become a supporter of a proper club.
     
  11. Frank Martin

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    I agree with this. It was an extremely harsh decision.

    Don’t think it really fits with the intent of deliberately handling the ball.
     
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  12. Wu

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    ^ watson alt account ^
     
  13. derfish

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    No, but sometimes you have to win ugly, especially against a quality side in a cup final.
     
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    And he had the class to answer the question without calling him out.
     
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  15. Topper Bottoms

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    I can't complain. Liverpool were professional. Spurs struggled mightily. Eriksen and Dele disappeared. It was a fun ride. Would have liked to win it because I doubt I see it again anytime soon. Penalty was the right call. Doesn't feel like the punishment fits the crime but those are the rules. Besides the whole, 90 minutes away from a possible european championship, Verts putting Salah in his pocket most of the match was my favorite part.
     
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  16. ugafish

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    And Henderson was streaking forward, and may have been able to get there.
     
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  17. Cawgs or Gie!

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    Good for the fans in the second deck that he didn't get the chance.
     
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  18. CoastalOrange

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    Hugo Boss seems to be ignoring my texts. That's no way to be.
     
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  19. IAHusk

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  20. Illinihockey

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    Its absurd the winner of Europa gets into pot 1
     
  21. danny2430

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    Fixed
     
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  22. Illinihockey

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    That too but less than 5 years ago winning Europa didn't even get you into the Champions League. Now not only does it get you in (which it should) but it gets you in pot 1.
     
  23. Pasta88

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    In fairness it’s not as big of a deal with the other Pot 1 teams being the top league winners.
     
  24. JGator1

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    Chelsea-Real Madrid confirmed in the same group
     
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  25. Frank Martin

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    It’s absurd that Real Madrid who’s won like 4 of the last 6 will be a pot 2 team. Talk about setting up a potential group of death.
     
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  26. Pasta88

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    I like the current format tbh. Groups of death are fun
     
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  27. Frank Martin

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    If they’re all groups of death. Instead it ends up ruining some knockout ties. No way Lyon, Schalke, Porto or Roma should have been there over Napoli.
     
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  28. Pasta88

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    Has there ever been a Champions League where there hasn’t been a couple of “smaller” clubs in the knockout stage? Napoli missing out is hardly some big tragedy.
     
  29. CoastalOrange

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    Yeah, its Champions League so there are no truly "easy" matches but whoever gets Madrid as their Pot 2 team is gonna have a bad time.
     
  30. PeterGriffin

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    So Spurs lost on purpose to avoid Real, I see, I see. I accept this reality.
     
  31. Pasta88

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    The group of deaths are almost always driven on the Pot 3 and 4 draws. For example, it's not the worst thing in the world to draw Madrid + Celtic and Dinamo Zagreb. But drawing Inter and Leipzig + any of the Pot 2 teams essentially makes for a group of death.
     
  32. Bankz

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    Why? Its the 2nd biggest club tournament in the world and you want to make the top clubs in the world interested in it. That's a good carrot to dangle
     
  33. Illinihockey

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    They already get into the champions league, thats a pretty damn big carrot. There is a misalignment of incentives when its better to get 3rd in your champions league ground and go play in a tournament of shitty also rans than 2nd and have to face a European giant in the UCL round of 16.
     
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  34. Cawgs or Gie!

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    That's not really true, but agree the carrot of pot 1 is superfluous.
     
  35. IAHusk

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    What club would purposely get 3rd in their group?
     
  36. Wu

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    Madrid guaranteed to get Zenit
     
  37. Bankz

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    And most leagues are ultra competitive I don't think most seasons you have that luxury to tank in the standings.

    In Italy this season 3-6 were separated by 3 points.
     
  38. Illinihockey

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    I didn't say they'd purposefully do it, just that it can be better.
     
  39. IAHusk

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    I guess. I just don't think it's that big of a deal since, more often than not, the winner of Europa is going to be one of the bigger clubs any way. Putting them in pot 3 or 4 and guaranteeing a group of death would be a punishment to the others in the group imo.
     
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  40. Illinihockey

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    If its a bigger club then their coefficient should be high enough to have them in pot 2. If their coefficient says they should be in pot 3 or 4 then that is where they should go.
     
  41. IAHusk

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    That's fair.
     
  42. Pasta88

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    You still have to win 5 rounds In order to get the auto bid after dropping down to Europa. I don’t see how that will ever be more lucrative than a round of 16 Champions League tie + the potential for more.
     
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  43. Pasta88

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    Plus you can still qualify through the league so it can make winning Europa redundant for that purpose. Europa will more negatively impact your league form due to the extra knockout round so why not try to finish top 4 (or whatever is required) and play in the UCL knockouts?
     
  44. SugarShaun

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    Napoli really showed they belonged in the UCL knockouts against Arsenal
     
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