2018 CFB Semi-Final Cotton Bowl - #2 Clemson vs #3 Notre Dame thread

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  1. 40wwttamgib

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    Trevor needs a haircut :awesomeface:
     
  2. NilesIrish

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    In college Trevor was the name we used for a random gay dude. ie. "Brett how is Trevooooooor tonight??? Even did it with my gay friends but hey that was the name we used. After this post he will undoubtedly destroy ND.
     
  3. rickyrubio4life

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    Y'all keep talking shit and Trevor's going to be forced to bring in some backup to squash this beef (I mean damn how awesome is it that the GOAT is riding dirty with some Bojangles :nomnom: ).

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  4. 40wwttamgib

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    Joe Montana got real dark.
     
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  5. Wicket

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    dont make fun of my haircut (or lack thereof)
     
  6. NilesIrish

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    Good looking couple.
     
  7. Trop

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  8. Wicket

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    there was a lot of talent in that game
     
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  9. Trop

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    Oh yea. You should fire Kelly on the basis of not having a cfp bid before 2018 with all that talent
     
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  10. Wicket

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    well we fired bvg, that seemed like a good step
     
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  11. IrishLAX2

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    1. Bad assistant coaches
    2. We’ve had insane offensive line talent; but it’s generally been spread out over years so the overlap between top guys is not a lengthy amount of time. Would’ve been cool if Nelson and McGlinchey stayed after last season...but also a totally unrealistic expectation
     
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  12. Wicket

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    pretty sure only nelson could theoretically come back
     
  13. IrishLAX2

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    Probably right.

    Would’ve been cool if Zack Martin and Ronnie Stanley stayed longer.
     
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  14. Wicket

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    well, we dont have the same level line this year but we've 5 guys with a bunch of starts coming back, 4 of whom can come back the year after as well
     
  15. theregionsitter

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    Weird uneven recruiting and Jekyll & Hyde QB play dominated the first 7 years of the Kelly regime. ND had lots of NFL talent but it was ultra concentrated at Oline and Tight End. That's how you end up 9-3 or 8-4 most of the time when you play ND's goofy ass schedule.The 2015 team had crazy front line talent but got devastated by injuries and when the back up's came in the team got exposed.

    Since the 2015 season, so starting with the 2016 recruiting class, ND has recruited extremely balanced on both sides of the ball and all positions. ND also set out to have 20 preferred walk on's on the team at any given time and instituted a national recruiting program to find those kids. Kelly's been obsessed with having 105 players, 85 scholarship players and 20 walk on's to create real depth. This is the first roster to employ that strategy by Kelly in full, he has 85 scholarship players and 20 recruited walk on's and its led to without question the deepest modern ND team in 30 years.

    So while 2015 was probably the peak of the Kelly era so far in terms of NFL players, 2018 will likely surpass it, and the 2019 team will likely surpass the 2018 team. I'm not surprised this is the team that broke through for Kelly and made the CFP
     
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  16. Wicket

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    honestly thought its a year early. Really worried about the linebackers next year, beyond that I love next years team
     
  17. theregionsitter

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    there's like 15 4 star linebackers waiting behind Coney and Tranquil. I'm sure two of them will be ok
     
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  18. Wicket

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    I think bilal will follow tranquill and move up and probably start with bo Bauer. Maybe Shayne Simon for the rover spot.

    But lets not make to much of an effort and enjoy this time around ( i know im the one bringing up next year)
     
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  19. CF3234

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    Get a table at Texas live.
     
  20. NilesIrish

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    Not sure if serious but they do have a Guy Fieri taco joint so I am in.
     
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    I’m absolutely serious. It’s what we did for the game against LSU this year and it was a great time. Food is what you expect, but the prices are reasonable and made life really easy.
     
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  22. billdozer

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    Initial look at the game from a Clemson site

    It seems like yesterday Clemson exited the team plane in College Station with its cowboy hats as it faced off against Texas A&M. Now it’s time to break them out yet again as the Tigers head to Dallas for another trip to the College Football Playoffto face the Notre Fighting Irish in a rematch from the historic 2015 monsoon game in Death Valley.

    As many expected entering the season, Dabo Swinney managed to bring Clemson back to the College Football Playoffs yet again for the fourth straight year. Like last season, the Tigers are massive favorites to make it back to the National Championship Game.

    Just as they were in 2015, Notre Dame is a great team that matches up well with Clemson on both sides of the ball. Both employ aggressive, physical defenses that prefer man defense and offenses that underwent quarterback changes early in the season to better stretch the field in the passing game. Of course, both also endured a couple of close calls during the regular season that could’ve derailed their playoff hopes.

    For Notre Dame, their victory hinges on whether they can foster enough offense against arguably the best defense in all of college football, especially against a front four that has lived up to its preseason hype. The Fighting Irish have ridden behind junior quarterback Ian Book, who they opted for over Brandon Wimbush due to the latter’s struggles as a passer. Book put up a solid 2018 season, throwing for 2,468 passing yards, 19 touchdowns and only six interceptions while completing 70.4% of his passes. While not possessing an elite arm, Book is a balanced quarterback who doesn’t make a ton of mistakes and stretches the field enough to make peeking safeties pay for their mistakes. His 162.5 passer rating and adjusted QBR of 83.7 speak further to his efficiency. Like Lawrence, his ability to escape the pocket and pick up yards shouldn’t be underestimated, either. While he’s had a solid season, Book will have to find creative ways to stave off a Clemson defense ranked second in the country in sacks (45).

    In the passing game, the Fighting Irish are led by a steady trio of receivers in Miles Boykin, Chase Claypool, and Chris Finke. Boykin is the team leader in receptions (54), yards (803), and touchdowns (8). Claypool (48 rec, 631 yards, four touchdowns) and Finke (47 rec, 547 yards, two touchdowns) both provide great complimentary pieces to Boykin. The Fighting Irish makes great use of their tight ends in the passing game, and Alize Mack(34 rec, 349 yards, three touchdowns) could be their secret weapon to expose Clemson’s safeties and linebackers in coverage, especially in the middle of the field. In a similar fashion to its run game, the Fighting Irish rank 31st in passing yards (265.6 yards per game), and will be going against a Clemson secondary that, while ranking 18th in passing yards allowed (183.8 yards per game), has struggled at times, especially against efficient quarterbacks who have managed to take advantage of two aggressive safeties.


    On defense, there’s no doubting what the primary plan will be: contain Etienne while forcing Lawrence into difficult situations in a big-time environment. The Fighting Irish rank 19th in total defense and have been consistent all season long. They boast a 32nd ranked pass defense, surrendering 198 yards per game through the air. This is in no small part thanks to Julian Love, Alohi Gilman, and a host of other playmakers the Fighting Irish host in the backend. Like Clemson, the Irish love to play a lot of man defense and leave their defensive backs in single coverage. Against the University of Southern California, which displayed skilled, fast athletes on the outside, Notre Dame’s secondary struggled to keep up in single coverage early on, which allowed the Trojans to make their game competitive. Against a team like Clemson who displays more offensive consistency and the same type of athleticism, the Fighting Irish will be hard pressed to succeed if its secondary can’t win their one-on-one battles in single coverage.


    Meanwhile on the front seven, defensive lineman Jerry Tillery and linebacker Drue Tranquill headline a front seven that finished the season ranked 30th in run defense, allowing 133.5 yards per game. Clemson is no stranger to physical front sevens with high-caliber talent, and having faced a defensive team like Boston College late in the season should serve the offense well in handling the front seven. After early season struggles, Clemson’s offensive line came on as the season progressed, especially in the run game, where they rank fifth in rushing offense with 259.8 yards per game on the ground. Notre Dame must count on consistent defensive pressure and the inexperience of a freshman quarterback in Trevor Lawrence to guide them to victory.


    Unlike 2015, there is no monsoon or rainstorm to play through, and it will be nice and dry. Notre Dame is likely to study plenty of film from the Syracuse, Texas A&M, and South Carolina games to attack Clemson’s defense and find ways to negate the pass rush. Expect some RPOs, an emphasis on a quicker passing game, bouts of tempo offense, and routes focused on the middle of the field to isolate Clemson’s safeties and linebackers in coverage. On defense, expect plenty of film study from Boston College, the defense on Clemson’s schedule that had the most success against containing Travis Etienneand putting pressure on Lawrence. With its faith in the secondary, Notre Dame is likely to follow a similar game plan in bringing pressure from a multitude of different looks to force Lawrence to make mistakes.


    Much of this will be new for Notre Dame as it makes its first foray into the College Football Playoff, with head coach Brian Kelly looking to make up for his embarrassing show in 2012 against the Crimson Tide. The Fighting Irish have the talent to pull off the upset as underdogs against the Tigers, but it will depend upon Book’s ability to consistently challenge a veteran Clemson defense that still contains its best pieces from a 2016 championship team.
     
  23. Wicket

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    I think one stat thats sort of misleading is the passing defense number. per play ND has the #4 passing defense, same for passer rating. With cuse, wake & Northwestern weve played 3 of the 6 teams playing the highest tempo (or at least most plays) on offense
     
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  24. laxjoe

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    not as in depth, but a quick run down from our TheAthletic site
     
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  25. cutig

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    I hope they stack the box and make Lawrence beat them. Tee Higgins and Justyn Ross will go wild
     
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  26. laxjoe

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    that's part of us not matching up/having the team capable of beating clemson, imo. we have to sacrifice one thing, we'll probably trust love and pride hoping they can win one on one (they've given up 2 TDs all year) and hope that the freshman makes enough mistakes to give us a shot. will that work enough to win the game? probably not. but it's probably our best plan
     
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  27. billdozer

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    One thing I would disagree on would be our WRs. This is probably our most talented WR group we've had, including when we had Nuk, Sammy Watkins, Martavis Bryant, and Adam Humphries.
     
  28. Irush

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    Julian Love is going to have 18 PBUs in this game
     
  29. Wicket

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    I hope we can take the run away and keep 1 safety deep but I fully expect gilmann to play plenty aggressive and downfield for sure. I trust Love straight up, Pride is a tougher issue
     
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  30. clemsontyger04

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    Troy Pride. Expect that kid to play with a chip even though Clemson offered him late.
     
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  31. IrishLAX2

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    That was the one thing that jumped out to me in that article.

    USC has a few undeveloped young studs at WR. But the two Clemson kids are the best WRs we’ll face this year.
     
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  32. Wicket

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    I still think thats gonna be JJ Arcega Whiteside but yeah, he is up there
     
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  33. cutig

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    Lawrence's development really accelerated towards the end of the year. Went from way overthrowing his WR on deep passes to perfectly placed back shoulder throws the last few weeks. Can't wait to see what he looks like with several weeks off to work with Streeter. Going to be a kickoff to his Heisman campaign next season hopefully.
     
  34. theregionsitter

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    ND does not play a lot of man defense so this article is not correct, its almost entirely match up zone. Against SC they played zone almost exclusively with the expectation that they were fine with giving up 4 yard pass plays. USC broke a bunch of tackles early and moved the ball, ND played a tighter zone in the 2nd half and shut them almost entirely down. USC didn't move the ball at all for like 8 straight possessions which is when the game went from 10-0 USC to 24-10 ND.

    ND will play man in Nickle at times
     
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  35. VoodooChild5

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    It seems like Clemson is just a more talented version of ND.
     
  36. billdozer

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  37. Irush

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    Can’t knock the hustle
     
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  38. NilesIrish

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    It's supposed to be free for Season ticket holders damnit. Thoros of Beer
     
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  39. Ian Boooooo!k

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  40. Trop

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    With a better coach , better facilities, and, uh, a national championship in HD.
     
  41. Irush

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    I’m beginning to sense you do not like us
     
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  42. Trop

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    I'm not saying.....im just saying.
     
  43. skiedfrillet

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    he's just kind of a cunt
     
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  44. Trop

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    Go get some fast food. You're hangry
     
  45. White Tajh Boyd

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    The VLOGs Clemson posts are great. Pretty much a short weekly behind the scenes episode just posted on Twitter for all to see.
     
  46. 40wwttamgib

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    I like Clemson. I enjoy watching them play, and I think Dabo is fuckin great.
     
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  47. laxjoe

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    we do those as well. not sure what this will be. but no fucking way would i ever pay $
     
  48. clemsontyger04

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    Can we be frends?
     
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  49. Irush

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    Why do people hate us
     
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  50. 40wwttamgib

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    Buddy ... We are already friends.
     
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