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  1. MtOread

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    Kareem vs Zeke should be fun.
     
  2. lfriend

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    Credit to the Cowboys, they had an excellent gameplan to really counter how the Chiefs like to run block with all the line shifting and crashing.

    The Chiefs are looking more predictable on Offense and Alex is looking more uncertain without the speed advantage. Can't win games like that with just 3 pass attempts over 10 yards, although that issue goes beyond more than Alex Smith.

    Beyond that, they need a talent rehaul on Defense and a new coaching staff on that side of the ball. The only coach I'd maybe keep would be Gary Gibbs and db assistant Al Harris.

    The Defense looked better in a base D with the inside backers attacking, so we went back into nickel and dime packages. Acker is a total dumpster fire and has no business starting.

    I'd move back to more traditional stuff and sit DJ in favor of more KPL/Eligwe and Ragland.

    Ideally, we get rid of Sutton at the end of the year and pick up Fangio when the Bears clear house. It's too bad we didn't do this a year ago for Wade Phillips.
     
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  5. hawkeyeOUTeast

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    What an absolute joke
     
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  6. hardcorekickball

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    I was getting a little worried that we might actually win for a second. Thank God we pulled a chiefs and lost.
     
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    i'm here for the meltdown, but this one was such a kick in the balls that i don't think anyone has the energy
     
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  8. DirtBall

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    Sorry Chiefs bros
     
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  9. George Costanza

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    And this is why Andy ultimately didn’t last in Philly. Feel bad for him because he’s a good guy.
     
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  10. lfriend

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    Not entirely his fault by any means, but that game ended the QB controversy for 18.

    It's time to close the book on Alex Smith.
     
  11. hawkeyeOUTeast

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    I disagree. Did you see he stat about his downfield passes in first few drives and how successful they were? Then he didn’t attempt another until the last play of the game? Let me look for the tweet.

     
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  12. lfriend

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    We'll have to agree to disagree.

    Alex had happy feet for most of the 2nd half, checked into QB runs when he shouldn't of have and at times looked directly at the rush and didn't even look down field. I really dislike stat line analyzing.

    This loss certainly isn't all Alex, or even largely Alex. It's just he's 34'ish, they've clearly peaked with him at QB and it's not good enough, they have an insanely talented QB they spent firsts and a 3rd to get that needs to start and they are on the verge of a major Defensive rebuild.

    They are set at like maybe 4 of 11 Defensive positions (Chris Jones, Ragland, Peters and Berry) and really need the cap space and trade compensation Alex can provide. I feel bad for the dude because he had the year nobody thought was possible, but it's time for a major rehaul.
     
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    Andy is a great regular season coach, just sucks once playoffs start
     
  14. MtOread

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  15. miles

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    Really torn on Reid. His in game decisions can be indefensible at times, but there's not many coaches I'd rather have develop a young QB.
     
  16. lfriend

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    Andy Reid ceetainly is capable of Andy Reid bullshit, but he does have a history of making it to the SB and several NFC Championship games. If he can't progress with Mahomes by year 3, yeah dump him.

    Bob Sutton, on the otherhand, needs to pack his shit immediately.
     
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  17. houtex716

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    How likely is it that mahomes starts next year?
     
  18. lfriend

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    Over 90% imo
     
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  19. DirtBall

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    I think if they cut Smith his cap hit is $1 million, if they keep him it’s $17 million. I don’t see him being on the team.
     
  20. pbfp2008

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    Yup. Sutton gots to go
     
  21. miles

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    Yeah, even if he was still better than Mahomes next year there's too much you can do with an extra 16 million
     
  22. i hate your team

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    They will end up trading Alex to jags or cards...book it.
     
  23. angus

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    Brett Veach has been amazingly aggressive in his short time. 3(?) preseason and in season trades plus Revis.

    Now this fleecing. I am now fascinated to see where he goes from here.
     
  24. MtOread

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    Revis and Hali seem like near guarantees to get cut.
     
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  25. JRodMK1

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    We just got a 3rd and a significant upgrade at a position of need for a guy we were going to end up cutting if there weren't any takers in the trade market. That's quite impressive.
     
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  26. angus

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  27. angus

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    Thoughts on this?


     
  28. lfriend

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    A great pick up if he's motivated. If not, Andy's kid has his work cut out trying to keep him and Chris Jones motivated.

    Would like to see the Chiefs try to flip a late round pick or two to the Browns for Corey Coleman.
     
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  29. lfriend

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    I'm mostly cool with this draft class, but it wasn't flawless by any means.

    Veach needs more players on his board for the draft. You could tell he was panicking and did moving up when I'm not sure he really needed to.

    I don't think there was a big fight for Breeland Speaks in the middle of the 2nd and wouldn't of had to panic trade for Nnadi if he had kept his cool.

    I don't know a fucking thing about Clemson guy, but I assume will replace Sorensen. I am cool with that.

    Liked the Watt pick.

    Our corners are probably going to get abused this year, but they made some good progress to fix the soft shit front 7 and it's about damn time. It has been the heart of our problems since 2015.

    Pretty optimistic about the year even if the win column won't be as good compared to last 2 years.

    I'm feeling we're going back to one gapping and press coverage. The heavy emphasis on getting Speaks and Chris Jones to lose some weight to shoring up inside with a more experienced Ragland and Hitchens.
     
  30. dump

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    Watts is a cool guy

    you'll like him
     
  31. lfriend

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    Watts was a guy that was high on my wishlist once they got rid of Peters. Hope they tell him to lose all that weight he recently put on and go be a turnover machine.
     
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  32. ono

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    I am not a draftnik but I was a little bummed we didn't trade up to get Josh Jackson when he fell so far. am i wrong?
     
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  33. lfriend

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    Josh Jackson was a really tough one to determine.

    Really hard to know if he had enough speed to recover well in a press man scheme.
     
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  34. ono

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    I tend to prefer ball hawk type corners over burners, regardless of scheme. That's probably why I loved him. ala Aqib Talib, marcus Peters, et. al.
     
  35. lfriend

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    I wouldn't of minded him, just had no idea how he would project.

    I don't fault them for going DL heavy. The DL has mostly sucked, outside of Chris Jones, for years now. They definitely addressed it.
     
  36. DirtBall

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    You guys get anyone worth a cr*d?
     
  37. hawk217

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    ODaniel was a rb out of hs, was teammates with Kendall Fuller. He is very athletic, had a 4.0 shuttle. It took him a couple years to learn to play lb but once he did he was unblockable. He was our best special teams player while he learned to play lb. Excellent open field tackler.
     
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  38. lfriend

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    ty for no cuss

    I think Nnadi and Watts will be immediate impact guys. If they can get a situational role out of Speaks and Clemson LB guy early on, that would be a bonus. Hard to really crush it without a first round pick and picking near the bottom of each round. If the 6th rounders just make the final roster, that would be swell.

    Couple thoughts I had:
    -Veach needs to increase the prospect count on his draft board by a little bit. He got too antsy when he didn't need to and blew capital in result.
    -I was expecting a corner earlier than the 6th round. It feels like the new gameplan is to plug the leaky ass run Defense up and force teams into a shoot out, thinking that Mahomes can win the battle.

    I don't think they're done addressing CB though. Feeling either a trade between now and camp, or seeing if there's anything left in DRC for a rental.
     
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  39. ono

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    I'm assuming they are counting on Berry to clean up a lot of secondary issues. I don't exactly agree with that strategy but I understand it.
     
  40. lfriend

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    I don't think that's the plan, but having Berry back will certainly help.

    One way to look at it is the last time the Chiefs Defense wasn't a raging tire fire was 2014, before Dontari Poe was wrecked. They had a star studded CB duo of Sean Smith and a construction barrel across from him.

    The Defense will probably be collectively better if they can fix a poor front 7.

    4 new guys along the front 7 and an experienced Ragland, with a hopefully healthy Dee Ford will go a long way.
     
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  42. DirtBall

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  44. ono

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    I love Mahomes so much. Like an unhealthy amount.
     
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  46. JRodMK1

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    When will the sports world correctly spell and/or pronounce the name "Chase Daniel?"
     
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  47. DirtBall

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    Mike out there doing the lords work

     
  48. hawk217

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    Should’ve drafted DW4
     
  49. JRodMK1

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    I'm actually glad there has been some (negative) chatter about Mahomes during camp. The hype was getting way out of control and people were expecting Rodgers 2.0 immediately. He's going to be good. He's going to make some unreal throws. But he's also going to turn it over a lot this year (15-20 turnovers seems reasonable). There will be a road game where he throws 3 INT's and we lose. And then there will be a game where he leads a game-winning drive.

    And if I hear one Chiefs fan complain that "he turns it over too much" after having whined about Alex Smith for 5 seasons then I'm going to lose my shit.
     
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    what's this say please.