***2018 MLB Thread: Angels reel in a big catch***

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  1. CF3234

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    someone check on the health of Brian McCann
     
  2. Muddy Badger

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    Heyman claims neither Phils nor White Sox are close to $300 mil with their offers to Manny and NY hasn't even made formal offer. This is all so weird to me.
     
  3. Bankz

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    He was injured sometime during spring training and tried to pitch with it. His slider was awful because of it. I have very low expectations for YU this year. I think it’s why the front office made the deal to bring Cole back.
     
  4. Bankz

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    Oh I’m not. The Cubs are going to need Carl Edwards to become more consistent in the Pen this year and Strop will likely be the guy again once Brandon goes down again.

    I spoke above on Yu
     
  5. Jack Parkman

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  6. bro

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    but what about that tweet saying it was done deal 10 days ago!?!?
     
  7. GoodForAnother

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    It was apparently for some charity thing but yeah it’s awesome
     
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  8. IanC

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    Lindbergh and Sullivan have definitely fapped to this
     
  9. Buster

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    Like GFA said it was a charity deal. Pretty rough week of work from the sounds of things. My buddy who works for the team finished 4th in the tournament. Unfortunately he tells me it was Mario Kart on the Nintendo Switch and not N64.
     
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  10. IanC

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  11. bro

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    That’s all he could get (years)? Yikes

    Read he turned down a longer offer from Mets, but still
     
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  12. MG2

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    That's awesome for the Brewers.
     
  13. bro

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  14. MG2

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    I understand that it's difficult for players when it comes to collective bargaining because they don't have much to bargain with, but it's kind of absurd that it's 2019 and they still haven't been able to get actual unrestricted free agency for all players.
     
  15. MG2

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    I also don't believe the Mets' reported offer was real. There's no way he was turning that down if it was.
     
  16. IanC

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    His one bad week in the playoffs really killed him.

    Supposedly the AAV is higher that what was on the table from the Mets. We can't give him a QO so assuming health and even a modest year he should get paid well then.
     
  17. Cornelius Suttree

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    Giants gonna be playing in Oracle Park for the next 20 years in a new naming rights deal that'll be announced tomorrow
     
  18. bro

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    can someone point me to the best article discussing why free agency is stagnant and whether MLB would be heading to a possible work stoppage.

    Also, I agree that the Mets deal seems fishy. You'd think he'd take that in a heartbeat.
     
  19. You and You

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    Owners and GM's are reacting to years of their own stupidity of giving exorbitant contracts for too long of terms and getting burned on the last few years of poor production. Now teams are trying to keep the years low, and the natural reaction from the players is to be pissed that they can't get long term financial stability unless you're a top, top guy.

    It's been discussed on here, but because of the years the teams get to control player salaries through arbitration and such means guys aren't getting paid for their peak years. A lot of these issues can be fixed by letting players hit free agency sooner, but then you'll have small market teams complaining because they won't be able to hold on to their guys as long.
     
  20. theregionsitter

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    Belief that White Sox offered 7/205 to 7/228 and its heavily front loaded for 19 to give them flexibility in 20-22 when we expect to contend

    White Sox have not made an offer to Harper, I’m not sure if anyone had beyond the Nationals
     
  21. dblplay1212

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    I'll be very disappointed if the Yankees seriously aren't going after Manny and Harper.
     
  22. teel

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    Baseball is easily the worst sport with this, probably like 5% of stuff that’s reported is true
     
  23. SC

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    Even more amazing that they've doubled down on Tony Clark to lead them through the next CBA. I don't understand it.
     
  24. MG2

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    I've been saying that for more than a year now. He and his group have allowed so many gains by small/mid market owners in the last decade that it will probably take a work stoppage just to try to get half of that back. His comments suggest he has no understanding of where the game is, either.
     
  25. Muddy Badger

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    The Phillies are more than capable of blowing past those numbers if this is the guy they really want. He must really not want to come to Philly.
     
  26. MG2

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    I'm going to be kind of mad at the Tigers if that's the cost and they didn't at least kick the tires.
     
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  27. SC

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    "More than capable of offering that or more, but haven't" is the new MLB slogan at this point.
     
  28. Muddy Badger

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    Everyone got mad at Middleton for his "stupid money" comment but what on earth are the Phillies going to spend all that Comcast money on if not someone like Machado?
     
  29. zeberdee

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    I think the Phillies are actually more than willing to spend. it seems to me it's more a matter of these guys not wanting to play here.
     
  30. theregionsitter

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    Do you believe if the Phillies offered Manny 8/265 and the White Sox are at 7/210 that he wouldn’t be signed already?

    Both teams are low balling him so far
     
  31. MG2

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    I have a hard time believing any of this stuff right now, to be honest. I'm supposed to believe that the Nats not only offered Harper 10/$300M before the offseason, but recently upped that offer. At the same time, I'm supposed to believe that the same teams chasing Harper either haven't offered Machado a contract or have maxed out in the 7/$230M range. Those things don't really add up to me.
     
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  32. SC

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  33. zeberdee

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    that could be a ridiculous bargain if he has a bounce-back year.
     
  34. SC

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    Dozier couldn't do better than $9M with deferments and no upside incentives??
     
  35. You and You

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    Just hit .215 and isn't getting younger.
     
  36. SC

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    He's 31, not like he's 35 or something.
     
  37. bro

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    damn dude. great point
     
  38. MG2

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    I'm curious to see what Lowrie ends up getting. Seems like the media loves LeMahieu and keeps pushing him, but Lowrie is the best 2B on the market, IMO, and I would have gone to him for 2 years over Dozier for 1 if the money is close at all.
     
  39. Weedlord420

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    Really happy with what the nats have done this offseason. Between Adams and Dozier, we’ve got some nice potential power when Harper leaves us at the alter.
     
  40. IanC

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    Lowery please

     
  41. dblplay1212

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    http://riveraveblues.com/2019/01/gu...eres-no-better-time-yankees-spend-big-182764/

    In the years that followed, the Yankees annual revenue soared, passing $300 million in 2006, $400 million in 2009, $500 million in 2014, and $600 million in 2017. TV deals, casino partnerships, and corporate sponsors pumped cash into the league, and no team saw revenues rise as swiftly as the Yankees.

    And yet, spending on player payroll did not hold steady. Instead, over the 15 years since the 2003 CBA, the percent of Yankees revenue going to team payroll dropped sharply: from approximately 75 percent in 2003 to 60 percent in 2008 to 50 percent in 2010 to less than 40 percent in 2017.

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  42. dblplay1212

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    League wide:

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  43. MG2

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    I would be curious to see how much of the revenue goes to baseball-related spending. While player salaries have gone down, seems like orgs are spending significantly more on technology, analytics/data and these massive front offices today compared to previous eras (not that this info helps players at all).
     
  44. dblplay1212

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    In 2003, there was $1.3b left after players were paid to pay for everything else. In 2018, there was $6.1b left after players were paid. I don't think the analytics dept and extra front office personnel cost $4.8b.
     
  45. MG2

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    I'm not suggesting it costs $4.8b. I'm saying I'm curious how much is spent on that stuff compared to previous eras because no one ever seems to discuss it and I'm interested to know the cost of that stuff. Calm down.
     
  46. dblplay1212

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    I'm calm. Teams absolutely spend more on those things now but a 20 yr old stats guy or an extra IT guy costs them peanuts in the big picture. I don't think those extra departments account for that much spending. The international scouting and camps do add up though. Even with that, I think it's safe to say the owners are pocketing more now than they did 15 years ago.
     
  47. MG2

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    No shit!!
     
  48. JeremyLambsFace

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    But you and you is really concerned about the players making more money.
     
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  49. dblplay1212

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    Not sure why you're getting offended about this. :idk:
     
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