2019-20 NBA Thread: JM Needs To Manscape

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  1. Imurhuckleberry

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    Will be interesting to see if they can identify the transmission pathway that got to Gobert. As much as I appreciate a good hubris story the whole he got it from touching those mics is a bit to on the nose for me to buy.
     
  2. NCHusker88

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    I don't think people are saying that's how he got it. Or maybe they are but it almost definitely isn't
     
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  3. Schadenfred

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    I'm reminded of an all-time great commercial.


     
  4. Imurhuckleberry

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    That's definitely the twitter narrative I'm seeing. "Who will ever want to play with this guy again?" I'm like, dude didn't invent the shit in a weapons lab or something. He got sick like about half the country is like to do over the next 6 weeks.
     
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  5. IanBoyd

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    If the coronavirus doesn't kill Rudy, his teammates are probably going to after they finish quarantine.

    Has a NBA contract ever been voided due to "being a fucking retard"?
     
  6. Willpépé

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    LOL someone in the main C19 thread called for him to get deported.
     
  7. Doc Louis

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    They're trying so hard to keep it going for sports gambling . I do think it's a good idea to keep Duke fans at home though.
     
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    Like France would take him back now.
     
  9. Willpépé

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    Youtube black hole led me to this.



    :yaoface:
     
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  10. JohnLocke

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    Frenchies are soft

     
  11. IanBoyd

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    Rudy Gobert should be suspended whenever the league resumes for his negligent carelessness.
     
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  13. IanBoyd

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    Better than 50/50 chance he gets sued from the reporters he grabbed those recorders/mics from if one of them catches COVID19
     
  14. JohnLocke

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  15. Celemo

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    Chuckled audibly
     
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  18. Celemo

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    So if the season is over, who are your award winners?
     
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    MVP: Giannis
    ROTY: Ja
    Coach of the Year: Nick Nurse
    MIP: Siakam
    6th Man: Schroeder I guess?

    1st Team: Harden, Luka, Giannis, Lebron, Jokic
    2nd Team: CP3, Dame, Kawhi, AD, Gobert
    3rd Team: Kemba, PG13, Middleton, Tatum, Embiid
     
  20. b7

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    MVP has to be Lebron after going through the China thing, Kobe, and now this.
     
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    NBA Champions: Los Angeles Lakers
    Finals MVP: Alex Caruso
     
  22. ShuPoor

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    Very appropriate to name an Aggie MVP when claiming a mythical title.
     
  23. Fusiontegra

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    Clearly sick; he's been shitting all over Draymond for months.
     
  24. Imurhuckleberry

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    MVP: Clutch Sports of course
     
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  25. Imurhuckleberry

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    It's situations like this that show us how much more important off the court responsibilities are than a simple game.
     
  26. Imurhuckleberry

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    On average, a person infected with COVID-19 spreads the disease to 2.8 other people. At least that’s one estimate by Dr. John Swartzberg, an infectious disease expert at UC Berkeley, and others in the field. Of course, this is just an estimate. If we had broader testing, we might learn of a higher infection rate. What’s clear, at least, is that the disease is highly contagious, lethal enough to kill over one thousand people in Italy and thus concerning enough to stop professional sports in the United States. That last part appears to be a necessary step and probably came too late.

    As Swartzberg explained on Monday, the disease is spread through droplets that can cover a six-foot radius and remain contagious once deposited on inanimate objects. Consider how many fans touch the metal railings when walking up the arena steps just in the span of a timeout and you can get a sense of the trouble here. After you consider that, consider how much the NBA was willing to risk before Wednesday night’s dramatic events forced their hand and also triggered postponements and cancelations across the sports world.

    In the first weeks, as the coronavirus threat grew, the league’s measures to combat it were incremental, tangential and, in the end, irresponsible. In the face of an emerging pandemic, the NBA warned against signed autographs, banned locker-room media access, floated the idea of games in different cities and were just about to test the empty-gym trial balloon. These measures were as much about denial as they were about mitigation. Once COVID-19 started popping up in our major cities, it was hard to see this going any other way, even if the NBA kept looking for a miracle. That search may have brought a heavy cost. Games were played in front of tens of thousands, after the risk became obvious. The irony is that, after so much league focus on protecting players from the masses, transmission could have easily gone in the other direction.

    That 2.8 number is scary, but it’s certainly plausible that a person’s infection rate would be far higher in an NBA arena, especially if the infected individual happens to be a player. Utah center Rudy Gobert’s season-suspending positive test for COVID-19 and teammate Donovan Mitchell’s subsequent positive test are highly concerning events, given the dense ecosystem they inhabit and how it interconnects with so much. Currently, Gobert is the season’s scapegoat, which is convenient for the league. He might well deserve heavy criticism over not taking this threat seriously, but it’s worth noting that he was employed within an apparatus that appeared to be treating this threat as perfunctory, or at least not worth sacrificing hard money over until the very last moment.

    As experts on infectious disease made their warnings, the Warriors slapped up a sign ahead of Tuesday’s game that read, “attending tonight’s game could increase your risk of contracting coronavirus.” The Warriors played two games after that sign went up, an “at your own risk” liability protection that seems more applicable to the danger of a foul ball than of a contagious disease. A foul ball only hurts the fan who gets hit; it doesn’t multiply and smash into people who never showed up to the game. You can fault the Warriors, and I do. You can blame city officials, in San Francisco and elsewhere, for not being explicit about what they wanted from teams. But the ultimate authority for the NBA schedule falls on the league. Commissioner Adam Silver and the owners had the power to stop the games before a local, state, or national authority feels compelled to.

    With the NBA’s authority in mind, why were two games played in a full Chase Center, behind a banner that effectively admitted to increased COVID-19 risk? Also: Once COVID-19 started spreading in major cities, was there any credible expert on infectious disease who thought well of playing games attended by 20,000 people? The NBA kept telling us that they were consulting with experts in the field. Which ones were fine with the packed-arena setting as health officials kept warning the public about “large gatherings”? Can we be frank about how the league knowingly risked peoples’ lives in order to cling to the last bit of cash?

    In this case, “the league” is comprised of the owners, a more brash, newer-money group than the one David Stern used to herd. As a collective, the owners were doing what they could to keep the games going, in the face of mounting evidence. As recently as Wednesday, the Washington Wizards ownership group announced that it was defying the Washington, D.C., health department recommendation that large gatherings cease. Houston Rockets owner Tilman Fertitta was blasé about the risk when interviewed on CNBC Friday. The glibness is staggering when you consider what can happen in an arena, especially if a player carries an infection.

    The average infection rate might be 2.8 for a normal citizen with the coronavirus, but an NBA player isn’t the average person, someone who might interact with a few people at work and then see his or her family in the evening. The NBA player is always on the go, via planes and buses that are immediately used by other NBA teams. He works in close quarters with a small army of professionals who are wholly devoted to aiding and adorning his body. Since the team wants a player’s focus to be wholly on the game, much organizational effort is put into serving athletes a constant supply of clothes, shoes, massages, ice bags, food, drinks, practice rebounders, tickets for visiting VIPs — and this is just what’s obviously visible to when you attend the small window that is NBA pregame.

    It takes a village to supplement the NBA athlete, a group effort coordinated between PR officials, equipment managers, assistant coaches and video guys. In the Warriors’ locker room, the most commonly heard word happens to be a letter: “E.” Maybe it’s because players don’t have time to bark out director of team operations Eric Housen’s full name or maybe it’s because yelling “E!” tends to cut through the locker room noise. In any event, “E” is perpetually flying around the locker room periphery, like the electron in those atom-structure pictures you saw in high school. He’s not just moving, but also coordinating, commanding a motley crew of ball boys and other helpers on where to move what and when. The bottom line is that a player needs many things and so he touches many things, which are then re-touched by a group of people assisting him.

    Speaking of touching, NBA players tend to be highly tactile. They’re athletes after all, more often comfortable in their own skin than other folks, plus acculturated to a certain amount of friendly physicality. There are the dap routines in pregame that even extend to opponents before the tipoff. In one not-so-random example, here is Gobert, just before Monday’s tipoff against the Raptors, dap-hugging Pascal Siakam.

    Of course, once the game begins, players come into contact with one another on screens, on fouls and often just to congratulate their teammates. In one 2011 NBA Finals game, for instance, Tyson Chandler gave out 90 high-fives. Those were just Chandler’s intentional, motivational points of contact. During the run of play, the points of contact likely increase by an order of magnitude. This is in contrast to, say, the basic office job I had when I’d wave “hi” to a Packers fan on the way to my desk, then wave “hi” to the Steelers fan adjacent to my desk, and effectively never come into physical contact with a human.

    At such a regular job, when you leave, you just, well, leave. This isn’t quite the case for NBA players. The game is followed by an extended wind-down period. Usually, there are trays of catered food available, which the players line up for and serve themselves, buffet style, where they all touch the same serving implements. There’s a pecking order to who eats and when. Shaun Livingston used to yell, “Players first!” to ensure the hierarchy. After players come the coaches and then literally everyone employed by the team, including broadcasters. Usually, there’s food left over, which can be offered up to media members but is more often finished off by the stadium worker crew. By the end, you might have had 40 different people eating from the same baked beans trough that a player first dipped into.

    After the players eat, there’s extensive socializing within the arena, often near the loading-dock zone where buses enter. It is there that you’ll see converging entourages. There are agents, sneaker executives, workout gurus, friends and family all present to mingle alongside the players, now in plainclothes. It’s a highly social, bustling environment, where players meeting and greet everyone in the extended NBA subculture. This spot is for the VIPs, but there’s another tier of player-greeters who simply stay in the stands after the game. It’s not uncommon to walk out onto the floor at 11 p.m. and see players interspersed in a crowd of hundreds hanging in the stands. This is typically the scene where you might find the player’s old high school coach or childhood friend. It’s common that these people made a long journey to the game.

    After the player is done with his greeters? Who knows? Maybe the plane. Maybe the club, followed by more after-hours activities. This isn’t to say that NBA players are unique as potential carriers. They’re just similar to actors, politicians and other kinds of celebrities whose travel and status require many points of contact. While it’s shocking to hear that Tom Hanks contracted the virus, it’s also not entirely surprising that someone like Tom Hanks contracted it.

    Really, the point of this is to highlight what a damned miracle it is if a player infection stayed relatively contained. It’s encouraging that, as The Athletic’s Shams Charania tweeted, only Mitchell tested positive among 58 tests administered to Jazz players, employees and media members on Wednesday night. There are complexities regarding the timing of incubation and exposure that might have been mitigating. Whatever happens from here, the Jazz players’ contraction of the virus brings the NBA’s decision making into stark relief. This could have been very, very, bad. In truth, we still don’t know the extent of what happened and can’t celebrate too early. Was the risk worth it? Probably for this group of owners.

    Let’s hope this pandemic can be contained sooner rather than later and we return to sports, in all their relatively trivial glory. When that happens, the NBA might need a new approach. It would be helpful if the NBA seemed like a league that gave a damn about its domestic fans, as opposed to a league that mostly seems obsessed with player empowerment, international expansion and a social-consciousness branding that can’t stand up to China’s rebuke. A league that cared more about its home continent probably wouldn’t have exposed North American fans to serious health hazards up until the moment when the whole situation became an untenable public-relations disaster.

    Did other leagues cover themselves in glory around this time? No. But the idea that “the NBA was first to safely shut it down” doesn’t hold up either. The NBA played for time until Gobert’s positive test ended the game. On Feb. 15, Silver made a big show of supporting coronavirus relief efforts in China, not that the vast superpower was asking for a sports league’s help. Less than a month later, the NBA contributed to a situation that increased the likelihood of relief efforts being necessary at home. The league will be forgiven for this, as there’s too much going right now to even track and contextualize basic reality. When the games return, the NBA may do well to remember the following, especially on the home front: Sports is the only business that functions because the public believes it’s more than a business.

    (Photo: Alonzo Adams / USA TODAY Sports)
     
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  27. hood b. goode

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  28. Mister Me Too

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    He did not get it from touching the mics, there was a report that he visited friends that had traveled abroad and they believe that’s how he got it. The reporters who cover the Jazz were among the 58 players who were tested and out of the 58 test only 2 came back positive.
     
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  30. IanBoyd

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    So Rudy Gobert potentially was responsible for infecting a kid



    Ban his ass
     
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  31. JohnLocke

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    This is a little extreme man. He gave an autograph to a kid which I'm sure tons of players have done in the past two weeks. It's not like he was like "I have the coronavirus even though I'm not showing symptoms yet I'm going to go infect this kid"
     
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  32. Imurhuckleberry

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    Isnt it equally possible this lil crumb snatcher is the one who infected the Stifle Tower?
     
  33. JohnLocke

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    No grrr Rudy Gobert is pure evil. Ban him from the league!!!!
     
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  34. Drown ‘Em

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    What if they both contracted it elsewhere and this was nothing more than two infected people unknowingly meeting and infecting a bunch of other people together?
     
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  36. Mister Me Too

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  38. Mikelangelo

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    Put out a statement praising the owner and not committing to anything?

    Am I reading that right. Hate how this country praises owners so much like they're not just assholes parking their money and getting way too much credit when their teams do well.
     
  39. Handcuffed

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    they're basically saying, "we don't own the building and those aren't our employees so fuck 'em, not my responsibility."

    same ownership as the catholic church diddling help with marketing, though.
     
  40. ZeroPointZero

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    If you guys are bored a great video to remember

     
  42. Mikelangelo

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    I'd rather like to hear more about what you did after they won the title
     
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  43. Joe_Pesci

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    currently watching that jj redick-jimmy butler podcast. butler seems a lot cooler than i was expecting.

    also :roll: at redick saying the movie shooter sucked and butler being like "get the fuck outta here"
     
  44. Celemo

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    I like Butler way more after that pod
     
  45. Handcuffed

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    We know the NBA has had discussions about a midseason tournament. Assuming this season is effectively cancelled - I don't personally think we'll be good in 2-3 weeks - I would like the NBA to run some random tournament in July or August, if possible. It wouldn't be a championship but it'd be fun and different and I would watch it.

    Hell, I'd watch an NHL or MLB tournament, too, if that's necessary with the shortened seasons.
     
  46. JohnLocke

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    I miss basketball man
     
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