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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Sterling A, Mar 30, 2018.
Pitt is gonna get buttfucked.
But at least we got a quarterback. That's all.
Norte Dame, Florida, and Northern Illinois gets you to #3 OOC? OOC scheduling has really dropped off.
guess we should schedule Savannah state, Toledo, and FIU to really challenge ourselves after a good game vs LSU to start
or maybe FAMU or Bethune Cookman, now we're really talking
Might want to do a little reading comprehension and notice that I was making a comment on the state of OOC scheduling in general and not saying a thing about FSU.
But if you are gonna take a shot at UM, Toledo>Northern Illinois. So...
how you figure that?
Last 10 NIU has 11 more wins, a whole season's worth:
Northern Illinois: 91-44 (orange bowl bid)
His first 4 games were against WVU, Delaware, ECU, and Old Dominion. Of course his OOC numbers were better than his ACC numbers, as a first year starter.
I’m not suggesting he didn’t regress, and I didn’t watch VT football much, but common sense suggests he’d have a big opportunity to improve if he didn’t get into trouble.
this true #Virginia Tech Hokies ?
Talking shit about an opposing school's suspensions during peak suspension season is a bold strategy cotton
im literally asking who their starter is going to be
sensitive today. Also, Toledo won the MAC last year. But keep thinking that first post was a shot at FSU.
Not you. The tweeter.
5 of the top 10 teams hardest OOC schedules are ACC, while zero are SEC. I don't see why you would take a shot at that. Not sensitive at all here, although a little salty about Anthony Bourdain committing suicide
It's just a comment on the state of ooc schedules in general, no big deal
And on another note, Miami really seems to have one of the cakiest divisional walks ever, maybe we can jinx that up a but though
I WASN'T TAKING A SHOT AT FSU'S OOC SCHEDULE. I was making a comment about how bad OOC scheduling has gotten nationwide where @ Citrus Bowl Champ ND, home against 4-7 UF, and home against Northern Illinois is good enough to be the #3 OOC schedule in the country.
It's nice to have a good ACC schedule the past two years. We had gotten used to having all 3 of our toughest ACC games in a 4 week span almost every year.
Relax, that's your MO to always take a shot at FSU. No need to scream
that feature was a very good thing for the ACC
and basic reading comprehension of either of my first two posts would have told you that I wasn't taking a shot at FSU.
Considering we had 3 scholarship guys who I think all played well this spring. I would say this is false.
Starter will be Ryan Willis, with Hendon Hooker most likely his backup if true. Ryan Willis looked pretty good in the spring, and is a former starting QB at Kansas. I'm weirdly not too worried about this situation.
Yesterday was a big VT Football news day considering the time of year, we also got a nice commitment from Cam'Ron Kelly -- a kid Rivals has as their 135th overall.
Surprised yall took him.
We were too.
Common sense dictates the opposite actually, since VT has not improved the RB situation a single bit and lost an incredibly valuable WR in Cam Phillips. JJ would most likely regress this year since DCs need change nothing about their gameplan to succeed against VT offensively. He never showed anything in the spring either, there wasn't any "the light has come on for JJ" movement from camp.
I mean I guess? But Willis was a scholarship P5 QB, he didn't have one last year because that was his transfer year. I'm fairly positive he'll go on scholarship for this year and even if he doesn't, again, it's not like an actual walk-on. He had better reports than anyone this spring, if he's the stopgap until we get Quincy Patterson going it's whatever, this was a rebuilding year anyway.
Why? He can start day 1 at CB because of how paper thin we are now thanks to injuries and fuckups. The kiddie diddlers not taking him or CU wanting him at S doesn't concern me at all. He's got impact potential here, I'm all for it. I mean the way he committed basically means who knows if he'll be there at NSD because VT didn't even make his top 8 but turning down a kid like that with our need at CB is mong. Also he was heavy into UVA for the longest time so if he sticks it becomes doubly funny.
are you guys getting Anthony Harris tonight rape?
I mean good for yall but Kelly isnt a corner.
nevermind Harris already announced for UT, I stay on top of things
then he'll move. like honestly, we've got Bud fucking Foster and an amazingly good history with DBs. I just want the LOI, the rest comes easy.
We didn't want Kelly. Jokes on you. lmbo
Only 1 game all season?
Lol at Georgia vs LSU being a must watch game
LSU will win like 6 games next season
It just means more
The top 20 returning players in the ACC
Like the rest of college football, the ACC is going through a reset of sorts when it comes to its stars.
Yes, Clemson remains the unquestioned top team heading into the 2018 season. But the rest of the league, at least in terms of the players you follow, will look much different. Gone is Heisman winner Lamar Jackson, plus five other first-round picks from the conference.
With so much turnover at the top of the league, 247Sports is taking a look at the ACC and some of its standout returners. Using PFF College’s rating system, which grades on a 1-100 scale, these are the top 20 returning players in the ACC entering 2018.
Some of the names are to be expected. Some of the names will surprise you.
Either way, these will be the torchbearers for the ACC in 2018. Also, it’s important to stress here that these are PFF College’s top-rated returning players from the 2017 season. This list won’t necessarily reflect the 20 most talented players in the ACC or even the 20 best. It’s a listing of the 20 athletes coming off the highest-rated 2017 seasons.
Joe Giles-Harris, LB, Duke
PFF Grade: 90.4
Haven’t heard of Giles-Harris? You haven’t been paying attention. A redshirt junior-to-be, Harris earned multiple All-American honors a year ago during a season in which he piled up 125 tackles, 16 tackles for loss, 4.5 sacks, an interception, a forced fumble and four pass breakups. A weakside linebacker, Giles-Harris’ biggest strength is his versatility. He’s an elite run defender, ranking third among all linebackers nationally in that category per PFF – Giles-Harris allowed just seven missed tackles all year. The linebacker also excelled in coverage, ranking 62nd nationally among linebackers in that aspect.
Ryan Finley, QB, NC State
PFF Grade: 89.5
The Wolfpack return the 112th most production in the country, according to SB Nation, but they should be just fine on offense thanks to Finley’s presence. Overshadowed a bit in the ACC by the likes of Jackson, Finley had an outstanding junior season throwing for 3,200 yards, 16 touchdowns against six interceptions and completing 65 percent of his passes. At one point, Finley went 339 attempts without throwing an INT. Finley doesn’t have a huge arm, nor is he hulking at 6-foot-4, 210 pounds. But the former Boise State transfer is simply gets things done for the Wolfpack.
PFF Grade: 87.7
Injuries took their toll on Dungey as the season wore on, which forced him to miss Syracuse’s final three games. But Dungey was among the nation’s best with his double-barreled skillset as a passer and runner when healthy. The junior-to-be finished with 2,495 yards passing, while completing 60 percent of his attempts. He also ran for 595 yards and nine touchdowns, including a pair of 100-yard efforts against Florida State and Miami. Dungey needs to cut down on interceptions (9 compared to 14 TDs) and avoid taking so many hits as a rusher. Yet, there’s little doubt the Orange have a foundation piece when Dungey’s rolling – just ask Clemson.
Mark Gilbert, CB, Duke
PFF Grade: 87.6
Looking for a sneaky early-round NFL prospect in 2019? Look no further than Gilbert, a 6-foot-1, 175-pound junior with NFL bloodlines. Gilbert’s uncle, Sean Gilbert, was a former No. 3 overall pick by the Los Angeles Rams. His cousin, Darrelle Revis, had a pretty famous island at corner earlier this decade. Linage aside, Gilbert can play. He finished in a tie for fourth nationally last season with six interceptions, while ranking first in the ACC in passes defended (21).
Ricky Walker, DI, Virginia Tech
PFF Grade: 87.5
Walker will be the centerpiece of Virginia Tech’s defense in 2018. The Hokies need him to step up in a big way with seven starters on the way out, including a pair of first round picks (Tremaine Edmunds, Terrell Edmunds) and star defensive tackle Tim Settle. If 2018 is any indication, Walker is capable of being the star they need. He actually ranked as the Hokies’ top overall defender a year ago per PFF College, and he’s almost equally as capable as a pass rusher as he is run defender. Walker finished his junior season with 41 tackles and 12.5 tackles for loss.
Cam Akers, RB, Florida State
PFF Grade: 87.3
It didn’t take the nation’s No. 1 overall running back in the 2017 class long to find success. Akers broke Dalvin Cook’s freshman running record, exploding for 1,025 yards to go along with eight total touchdowns. PFF College rated Akers as the 11th-best running back in the country and the top offensive player on the Seminoles. Expect Akers and Jacques Patrick (more on him in a bit) to form arguably the top one-two rushing tandem in the nation.
Lukas Denis, S, Boston College
PFF Grade: 87.0
It happened quietly from a national perspective, but Boston College employed one of the best secondary units in college football a year ago. The Eagles ranked 10th nationally in yards allowed per attempt, and Denis was the biggest reason why. Denis finished in a tie for first nationally with seven interceptions to go along with 83 tackles as a redshirt sophomore. Denis rated as the No. 1,533 overall player in the 2015 class per the 247Sports Composite.
Jacques Patrick, RB, Florida State
PFF Grade: 86.1
The other member of Florida State’s dangerous one-two combo, Patrick rushed for 748 yards and seven touchdowns as a junior last season. His 5.6 yards per carry average was higher than Akers’, and the Seminoles used him much more frequently in pass protection. Patrick is also pretty darn shifty. He forced 41 missed tackle compared to 47 for Akers despite 60 fewer rushing attempts. Patrick, with 21 catches, is also a threat coming out of the backfield.
PFF Grade: 85.8
The lynchpin and leader of Miami’s turnover chain defense, Johnson led the Hurricanes with four interceptions and two forced fumbles last season. He did that while also being one of the most effective safeties in the nation. Johnson, a hard-hitting DB who excels in the box, led the Hurricanes with 96 tackles to go along with three tackles for loss. Johnson’s 85.7 run grade ranked ninth nationally among safeties. Johnson also gave up only a single touchdown in 30 targets.
Kelly Bryant, QB, Clemson
PFF Grade: 85.7
It’s nearly impossible to follow a legend. Bryant, however, nearly proved that statement to be untrue in 2017 while taking over for Deshaun Watson. Then a junior, Bryant led the Tigers to the College Football Playoff while completing 67.4 percent of his passes and rushing for 646 yards and 11 touchdowns. Then Bryant and the Tigers ran into Alabama. That loss, in which Bryant completed 18-of-36 attempts, has opened the door a bit in Clemson’s QB room for the nation’s No. 1 overall prospect in the 2018 class Trevor Lawrence. That QB battle will be one to watch during fall camp and early on during the 2018 season. Bryant’s proven to be a great option for Clemson. It just remains to be seen if he’s the best one.
Terronne Prescod, G, NC State
PFF Grade: 85.3
One of the top returning offensive linemen in the country, Prescod ranked No. 14 nationally among offensive guards a year ago per PFF College. Prescod did not allow a sack and surrendered just nine quarterback pressures during the 2017 campaign as a member of one of the best o-lines in the country, . The 6-foot-5, 338-pound senior ranked as the No. 946 overall player coming out of high school in the 2014 class.
Zach Allen, DE, Boston College
PFF Grade: 85.1
The secondary wasn’t the only strong defensive unit for the Eagles. Boston College's pass rush also stood out because of the one-two punch of Harold Landry and Zach Allen. Landry got all the attention nationally, but it’s Allen who was the most consistent presence last season with a team-high 15.5 tackles for loss in 897 snaps (compared to 456 in an injury-riddled season for Landry). Allen is among the elite run defenders at his position with his 88.9 PFF Grade ranking fourth among all edge defenders.
Essang Bassey, CB, Wake Forest
PFF Grade: 85.0
Bassey was targeted 112 times last season and surrendered only a single touchdown. It’s hard to do much better than that. A rising junior who played instantly at Wake Forest, Bassey finished last season with 75 tackles, six tackles for loss and a trio of interceptions to go along with a touchdown. A former three-star prospect, Bassey is Wake Forest’s top returning defensive player.
Bryce Hall, CB, Virginia
PFF Grade: 84.8
A steady presence for Virginia all season long, Hall finished 2017 as Virginia’s top-rated defensive player per PFF College – better than star Quin Blanding. Hall, then a sophomore, ended the year with 47 tackles, three tackles for loss and an interception. A player who’s quickly outpaced his recruiting ranking, the 247Sports Composite slotted Hall as the nation’s No. 2,280 overall player in the 2016 class.
Ryan Anderson, C, Wake Forest
PFF Grade: 84.4
Playing nearly every snap last season for Wake Forest, Anderson is an elite pass blocker ranking second nationally among centers in that category with an 89 grade. Anderson did not allow a sack all season, and he surrendered just four pressures in 934 snaps. A 6-foot-6, 305-pound redshirt senior, Anderson’s had quite a rise after ranking as the nation’s 3,436th overall player in the 2014 class per the 247Sports Composite.
Oluwaseun Idowu, LB, Pitt
PFF Grade: 84.2
A former walk-on, Idowu’s developed into a standout at Star linebacker for the Panthers. Idowu led Pittsburgh with 94 tackles, 11.5 tackles for loss and five sacks a year ago as a redshirt junior. But Idowu’s biggest strength is likely his cover skills. PFF College gave an Idowu a 86.7 coverage grade, which ranked 17th nationally among linebackers.
Greg Dortch, WR, Wake Forest
PFF Grade: 84.1
Dortch emerged as the Demon Deacons’ go-to target last season as a redshirt freshman, reeling in a team-high 722 yards and nine touchdowns. He was a reliable target, too, catching 71 percent of the passes thrown his way. The Virginia native ranked as the No. 2,211 overall player in the 2016 class, according to the 247Sports Composite.
John Lamot, LB, Boston College
PFF Grade: 84.0
The third Boston College defender on this list (and on the third different level of the defense), Lamont finished last season with 63 tackles and six tackles for loss as a redshirt freshman. Lamot came to the Eagles as a three-star athlete, and he’s already considered an “elite” run defender at his position per PFF College.
Jakobi Meyers, WR, NC State
PFF Grade: 83.7
A former quarterback, Meyers has transformed into one of the ACC’s top receivers. At 6-foot-2, 203 pounds Meyers was a consistent target for Finley throughout the 2017 season. PFF College’s stats show that Meyers caught 72 percent of the passes thrown his way last season. Meyers finished the year second on the Wolfpack with 63 catches for 727 yards and a team-high five reception touchdowns.
Kelvin Harmon, WR, NC State
PFF Grade: 83.7
NC State’s leading receiver a year ago, Harmon finished 2017 with 69 catches for 1,017 yards and four touchdowns. He became the first Wolfpack wide receiver since 2003 to clear the 1,000-yard mark, a total boosted by six 100-yard receiving games. Harmon, a junior, is already in the top 20 of numerous N.C. State career records lists.
Dexter Lawrence, DT, Clemson
PFF Grade: 83.6
No player on this list comes with a higher ceiling than Lawrence. The No. 2 overall prospect in the 2016 class and a player often just labeled “The Freak” by his teammates, Lawrence, when healthy, is a block-eating mauler in the middle. He dealt with a few injuries last season that limited him, but Lawrence was still one of the most effective space eaters in the country. With a big season on arguably the best defensive line in the nation, look for Lawrence to become a top 10 pick in the 2019 NFL Draft
glad to see Chazz make one of the pictures, hard work truly does pay off
Our AD won AD of the year, that's pretty cool. He really is a terrific AD, hope we hold onto him for a long time.
People are recognizing him more and more
Mook Reynolds gone at VT
Bud will be earning that salary this season
#Miami Hurricanes how are yall gonna look this year?
same as last year. going to be very good all over the field except the position it matters the most.
Cade Weldon is leading Miami to the promise land
Can't believe we're staring at a 4th consecutive conference championship. Between fsu and you guys, this really shouldn't happen.
You guys are definitely the favorite but hopefully you aren't playing a team missing its top 3 players on offense in the CCG next year.
Wouldnt have mattered
most likely not, but lets not pretend like playing a team without its #1 RB, WR, and TE didn't end that game before it began.
pls don't group us in with Miami
We were without our starting MLB and CB. Also our starting K, but it wouldn't have mattered.
you just compared starting kicker to one of your opponents top 3 offensive weapons. UM also lost a starting CB on the first play of the game if you really want to play this stupid game. I never once said it would have mattered. All I said is that a CCG game against a team that isn't missing it's top 3 players on offense might result in a better game.
Idk man. The U has scored 3 points against clemson over the last two game. 100-3 indicates that a 'better games' wound not have occurred regardless of injuries.
now using a game from 3 years ago under a different coach. My god this is bad posting.
Not sure why we are arguing about it. Those three players wouldn't have made up a 35 point difference, and you agree with it.