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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by teel, Mar 28, 2019.
Are you really trying to act like the trop isn’t the biggest piece of shit in sports?
It’s not. The power outage also wasn’t because of the stadium, but god forbid dbl knows anything about the facts.
That stadium should never be given the benefit of the doubt. It’s a disgrace to humanity
just last week some guy threw a no-hitter in a game that was delayed due to some electrical issues
and the Coliseum is way worse than the Trop, without a doubt. The only "nice" thing about it is the BART access
Tribe looking to escape Oakland with a W, leading 5-3 in T8 right now. My money is on Oakland getting this one too
It’s really not that bad, but OK.
It honestly is
It’s not, but OK.
I don’t know what to tell you. I went once and couldn’t wait to leave. Your attendance (or lack thereof) proves me right
Looks miserable in Chicago right now
umm yes it was
can someone please inform me what league hosts the team that plays in this biggest dump in sports
Yes. The Tampa bay rays
This is the way baseball was meant to be played
but what league do they play in
Sounds like a Duke Energy problem to me.
christ of course. those idiots don’t even know you need electricity and lights to play a game lol
Where has trumy been this weekend?
Is it prank szn?
This is a very specific stat
There he is!
I don't know if it's been covered in here, but I was checking out the standings this morning and the NL Central is all kinds of weird when it comes to run differential vs. records. Cincinnati having a +30 and being 4 games behind Pittsburgh with a -35 seems pretty crazy.
Your Seattle Mariners started 13-2 on the season.
They’ve gone 7-21 since.
Maybe next year!
This year's Mets
not shocked based on the way they played against the Red Sox.
Another very quiet road series for Yelich. So weird.
The home run that ended the second-longest no-hit bid by a Padres pitcher soared toward J Street and touched down near the batter’s eye. Maybe an hour later, two blocks west of Petco Park, the hitter who’d spoiled the occasion and the pitcher who’d served up a meatball found themselves inside the same Italian restaurant.
Joe Randa was standing in the entryway of Acqua Al 2 when Chris Young, all 6 feet 10 inches of him, ducked into the San Diego establishment.
“Obviously, you can’t miss him,” Randa recalled. “I could probably hide in a crowd and people wouldn’t know. But not him.”
“I recognized him immediately,” Young said.
It was Sept. 22, 2006. The Padres held a division lead while Young, their starting pitcher, sought the most elusive of achievements. Their opponent, the Pittsburgh Pirates, shuffled toward the conclusion of a 95-loss season.
Late in the game, Randa, pinch-hitting for the Pirates, prevented a shutout when he drove a 3-1 fastball an estimated 421 feet to center field. Young struck out the next batter and issued a walk before Cla Meredith secured a 6-2 victory. With a little more than a week left in the regular season, the Padres remained a half-game ahead of the Los Angeles Dodgers.
Yet Young’s ill-fated pitch and the crushing outcome still dominate the conversation about that night. Thanks to Randa, the right-hander fell two outs shy of pitching the first no-hitter in franchise history. His performance — 8 2/3 innings, one hit, two runs, three walks, six strikeouts — went down as another in a long string of near-misses.
Even Randa, who’d played for San Diego the previous season, understood the disappointment on the other side. Upon encountering Young at Acqua Al 2, he introduced himself and took the unusual step of apologizing to a home run victim.
“I was like, ‘Are you kidding me? You did what you were supposed to do,’” Young said. “There were no hard feelings. It was such a classy move on his part to come up and do that.”
Young took comfort in the fact that he had done his job. The Padres had won the game, maintaining their slim advantage in a pennant race. Young also figured a perplexing drought would end soon enough. Perhaps even the next day, with the electric Jake Peavy scheduled to take the mound.
More than a dozen years later, however, the Padres are the last major-league club without a no-hitter. On Thursday, when the Pirates return to Petco Park, the home team could set an all-time record for no-hit deprivation.
Only one franchise has gone 8,019 games before its first no-hitter; on June 1, 2012, in the New York Mets’ 51st year of existence, Johan Santana threw 134 pitches to the St. Louis Cardinals without allowing a hit. (The longest streak in major-league history belongs to the Philadelphia Phillies, who went 8,945 games between no-hitters from 1906 to 1964.) In this week’s series opener against Pittsburgh, the Padres will play their 8,020th regular-season game.
“It’s just a weird statistic. It really is,” said Young, now Major League Baseball’s vice president of on-field operations, initiatives and strategy. “They’ve had a lot of great pitchers, a lot of pitchers way better than me. And while I came close, it’s just amazing that it’s never been done, especially now in a ballpark that is considered somewhat of a pitchers’ park.
“But such is baseball, right?”
The 2006 season unfolded as the worst of Joe Randa’s career. It also turned out to be his final year in the majors. In hindsight, he wishes he would have played another season or two. He believes he thrived on being underestimated. He does not feel he exited on his own terms.
The Wisconsin native spent the better part of a decade as one of the game’s steadier third basemen. He rose from an 11th-round draft selection to a fan and clubhouse favorite, particularly over eight seasons in Kansas City. In July 2005, then-Padres general manager Kevin Towers acquired Randa from Cincinnati. The infielder supplied modest production, hitting .256 with four home runs, while endearing himself to teammates as a spirited competitor and an affable presence.
“The reason you don’t hear about Joe Randa in everything else after baseball is, he was just a normal guy, even though he’s super talented,” said Padres broadcaster Mark Sweeney, who played with Randa on the 2005 team. “You might think there are a lot of them, but those guys are few and far between. He’s just a really genuine, good dude.”
The end arrived sooner than Randa expected. After celebrating a division championship with San Diego, he did not receive an offer to return in 2006. He opted to rejoin Pittsburgh, another former club, on a one-year, $4 million deal. He endured a slow start, then broke his foot in early May. By the time he returned, his replacement, Freddy Sánchez, was en route to the National League batting title.
As they slumped in the standings, the Pirates continued giving opportunities to younger players. Randa was relegated to part-time action, often entering games as part of a double-switch. The trade deadline passed without a deal involving the 35-year-old.
As his career circled the drain, Randa looked forward to a late-season matchup. But that Sept. 22, Pittsburgh manager Jim Tracy informed him he would not be in the starting lineup. Randa accepted the decision. Inside, he stewed.
“I just felt like I didn’t get to leave San Diego the way I wanted to,” Randa said. “So I knew that every time we played them, I wanted to play well.
“And when that situation came up, I’m like, ‘All right. I’m going to show my manager, and I’m going to show the Pirates.’ There were a lot of little demons running around in my head at that time. It’s just unfortunate for Chris that I had a lot of those demons going inside me for that at-bat.”
Randa had never faced Young when he came off the bench in the ninth inning. He was armed with a veteran hitter’s experience and the knowledge that the towering pitcher on the mound possessed a deceptive fastball. Young had just permitted a one-out walk with his 89th pitch. He appeared to be tiring.
Internally, Young was still riding the adrenaline of the moment. Young knew, from pregame scouting, that Randa was either an “extreme low-ball hitter or an extreme high-ball hitter.” He could not remember which. Two outs away from potential glory, he decided to go with his gut. Soon, it would not matter.
Young’s first three pitches were ruled balls by home-plate umpire Mike Winters. From the dugout, the Padres groused that the strike zone had shrunk. Young came back with a strike, a fastball down the middle. Randa’s bat stayed on his shoulder. Then, against a nearly identical pitch, he unleashed his frustration.
“If I hit a ball 340 (feet) and it went out, it didn’t really matter. I wasn’t a home run hitter,” Randa said. “The situation of that game, obviously that homer felt a lot different, better than just hitting a regular homer.”
As the crowd looked on in shock, Randa circled the bases after his fourth home run of the year, his third at Petco Park and his first career pinch-hit home run. Nine days later, he recorded a pinch-hit single in the Pirates’ season finale, a 1-0 win over the Reds. He never homered or played again.
Acqua Al 2 shuttered a few years ago. Since the mid-aughts, it had been a popular destination after Padres games, a place to enjoy a meal and unwind. The interior featured a distinctive look; dinner plates hung from the walls, signed and decorated by celebrities, athletes and other patrons.
“The eight-and-two-thirds,” Young joked, describing his own contribution.
Inside the restaurant following that September game, Young caught a glimpse of Randa’s humility. The hitter sheepishly offered an apology. Young assured him there was no reason to do so. Their conversation was brief, but Randa came away impressed by the pitcher’s graciousness.
“I just felt really bad,” Randa said. “To get that far in a game and have a guy pinch-hit and come in the game and wreck it for him, it’s not an easy thing to do on either side. To come through was nice. Good thing for his sake, at least they still won the game.”
Years later, the two men reconnected as allies. Young had signed with the Royals. Randa was in spring training as a special assistant for the organization. They became friends, trading playful barbs about a fateful at-bat.
“He’s a gentle giant,” Randa, 49, said of Young. “He’s a wonderful man.”
“I really, really like him,” Young, 39, said of Randa. “Now knowing Joe and what a great person he is and how much I respect him — one, as a player, and secondly, more importantly, as a person — there’s just no hard feelings. It’s almost comical. Like, I’m glad it happened that way.”
After all, Young believes he benefited from considerable fortune. Early in the game, he did not feel he was at his best. The Pirates made hard contact several times, only for the ball to consistently find a glove. On one play, San Diego’s Ben Johnson went airborne for a catch before colliding with the left-field wall.
There are at least two other instances when, in an attempt to write history, Young did not require the same level of assistance. Several months before he almost no-hit the Pirates, he did the same against the Colorado Rockies. Two years later, he sliced through the Milwaukee Brewers’ lineup. Both bids ended with ringing, eighth-inning hits.
“After the game (against the Pirates), I really had an appreciation for how bad the Padre fans wanted it,” Young said. “Probably in the back of my mind, I always thought, ‘Oh, it’ll happen at some point.’ And then you realize just how elusive it is and how hard it is.”
Young remains visible around the game, albeit in another capacity. Last spring, after a minor-league deal with the Padres did not yield an Opening Day job, he accepted a position in the commissioner’s office.
“It’s been awesome,” Young said. “I’m thankful for the opportunity and just really learning a ton. Seeing a game through a different lens and learning and understanding the ins and outs of it, it’s given me a different perspective than I had on the field.”
Meanwhile, Young retains a vantage point unique to San Diego. Padres pitchers have carried a no-hitter into the eighth inning 22 times, and three of those performances belong to Young. He came closest, of course, on Sept. 22, 2006, in the thick of a pennant race. He vividly recalls the roars from the 40,077 in attendance, the energy that coursed through Petco Park.
“If there’s one thing I remember, it was the crowd,” Young said.
As the Padres approach the Mets’ record for futility, Young has paid some degree of attention, reminded by reporters’ requests and his own experiences. He has watched Padres rookie, and fellow Texan, Chris Paddack, who, through seven starts, owns the lowest opponents’ batting average in the majors.
“He’s remarkable,” Young said. “He’s fun and exciting, and if anybody can do it, he can.”
Randa, too, has a continuing interest in the Padres. Besides having played in San Diego, he spent a few years working with a young first baseman in Kansas City’s farm system. Now, Randa watches Eric Hosmer from afar, proud of the player and role model Hosmer has become.
“It’s hard to be a leader, but Eric’s not afraid to be a leader,” said Randa, who helps with the Royals’ minor-league infield instruction. “San Diego got a good one with him in a lot of ways.”
As Randa settled into post-playing life, he invested time in his children. His older son is a standout outfielder at Northwest Florida State College, a candidate to be selected in the June draft. His younger son is an outdoors enthusiast nearing high-school graduation. Later this year, Randa plans to relocate from Kansas to Phoenix, where he owns a home. The Royals’ spring-training complex is in nearby Surprise.
“Things happen for a reason, and that’s just what I’ve learned from this game,” Randa said. “It’s a great game, you meet a lot of wonderful people and you can see a lot of cool places. And if you don’t burn too many bridges, you can be in the game as long as you want to be in the game. That’s the way I look at it.”
Almost 13 years ago, a pinch-hitter approaching the end of his career ruined the Padres’ shot at history. A mostly mysterious drought persists. Yet a friendship sprouted from a single at-bat, a reminder that, amid all the near-misses, lasting connections can still emerge.
The Padres have played 8,017 regular-season games without throwing a no-hitter. The record to begin a franchise’s existence belongs to the Mets, who went 8,019 games before Johan Santana ended the drought in 2012. Below are the Padres’ five closest calls:
July 18, 1972, Steve Arlin vs. Philadelphia: Denny Doyle singled with two outs in the ninth. The Padres won, 5-1.
July 9, 2011, combined vs. L.A. Dodgers: Aaron Harang (6), Josh Spence (1/3), Chad Qualls (2/3), Mike Adams (1) and Luke Gregerson (2/3) combined to throw 8 2/3 no-hit innings. Juan Uribe doubled against Gregerson with two outs in the ninth. The Dodgers won, 1-0.
Sept. 22, 2006, Chris Young vs. Pittsburgh: Joe Randa hit a two-run homer with one out in the ninth. The Padres won, 6-2.
Sept. 5, 1997, Andy Ashby vs. Atlanta: Kenny Lofton led off the ninth with a single. The Padres won, 6-2.
July 21, 1970, Clay Kirby vs. N.Y. Mets: Kirby was lifted after eight no-hit innings by manager Preston Gómez. Bud Harrelson led off the ninth with a single against Jack Baldschun. The Mets won, 3-0.
Pirates vs .500 teams is 4-12
Thank god we’ve had the AL and cardinals to beat up on
The Athletic is so awesome.
Marcell Ozuna just left Boras' agency. As one of the bigger names in this upcoming Free Agency, I wonder if he's not pleased w how it's gone for Boras' guys
Or if he's trying to do an extension now ...not really Boras' thing
Yeah maybe. Ive kind of written that off, but I guess that's more of a possibility now.
He won’t advise his clients take one, but will do it if the client wants it (Strasburg). So I tend to think it’s more along the lines of not wanting to be Boras’s third best free agent this offseason given how the past few have gone.
that was hit hard
man Springer is having a hell of a season so far
The first 2½ innings of this Phillies-Brewers game have taken 1 hour, 30 minutes exactly. Aaron Nola and Freddy Peralta have already thrown a combined 136 pitches.
I thought this Nola bozo was supposed to be good
Did you miss his RBI? #National League
White Sox have a RP by the name of Bummer.
I hardly know her!
We have a good time here!
It’s an asterisk to denote your injury to Taillon. Apparently that’s the thing to do when your stars get injured.