***2019 MLB Thread: Making Daddy Proud***

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  1. burnttatertot

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    What shitty Yankee was on base that couldn't score off a double?
     
  2. Dr. Richard Cranium

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  3. dblplay1212

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    Where does your hatred for the Yankees come from? Did a Yankee not sign a card for you or something?
     
  4. Trofie

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  5. devine

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    Lol feels good, suck it losers
     
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    No World Series for you Phillies!

     
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    is Blake Snell broken?

    I need to decide on what to do with him in a keeper league by Wednesday and not feeling great about today's start.

    for reference even though nobody cares - I have him for $10 but it's his third year so I need to sign him to a contract or let him go. contract goes up $5 for every year so I could sign him through 2020 for $15, 2021 for $20 (this has been my plan) or 2022 for $25. or cut bait.

    had basically the same exact thing happen with Severino last season.
     
  8. Joe Louis

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    twitter seems to think it was more rust than health. hit 98 on the gun. i'm not good with keeper values but seems like making a start at all would be progress from a health perspective ...
     
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  9. poor paul

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    I'd sign him for 2021 given those options. that's pretty cheap for what he is, even given the start today where his stuff showed up but he couldn't locate.

    when do you have to decide? because they may take a look at that elbow again after today.
     
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  10. electronic

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    Was looking through some Spring Training stats to get pumped for the season (your Seattle Mariners are currently crushing the Cactus League to the tune of last place), and saw that the Houston Astros have the lowest batting average in either league.

    Fuck em.
     
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  11. zeberdee

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    deadline is Wednesday and that's what I'm worried about.
     
  12. Joe Louis

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    i feel like you'll know pretty soon if something's up :twocents:
     
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  13. Joe Louis

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    since we are talking a little fantasy and i can't find the official thread, my dynasty keepers right now (get to keep 25 in perpetuity). cuts on Thursday ...
     

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  14. poor paul

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    Snell said he feels great and is going to throw again Saturday, just couldn't locate today, fwiw.
     
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  15. MG2

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    Snell is an odd case of modern pitching statistics. His 2018 and 19 weren't really that different in terms of the underlying numbers. The FIP went from 2.95 to 3.32, which isn't that big of a jump, but the ERA went from 1.89 to 4.29 despite a K rate increase. The HR went up, but it was mainly the BABIP jumping 100 points and the LOB% dropping 17 points.

    Even if everything is right in terms of health, he's somewhere in the middle of the last two seasons.
     
  16. devine

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    Luckily we are getting all of these silly little bloopers out of the way now!

     
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  17. Drown ‘Em

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  18. burnttatertot

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  19. Dr. Richard Cranium

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    Bill James becoming more closely aligned to Hawk is still off even though it's years in the making



    Mitchell Lichtman and Tom Tango take him to school
     
  20. dblplay1212

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    Dumb comment but he is right on one thing, catchers do a lot that it's impossible to put a value on. Pitch selection is a huge one. No way to put a value on it but a pitcher being able to just take a sign and throw goes a long way. It takes a lot of trust but frees the pitcher up to just think about execution. That doesn't mean we shouldn't value the things we can grade though.
     
  21. Dr. Richard Cranium

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    Right but they are arguing against the premise he puts forward. The industry is trying to understand and quantify more and more of what catchers do, and just because they aren't there yet doesn't mean you throw out what progress has been made.
     
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  22. MG2

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    I don't agree with what James said, but at the same time, some of the stat stuff is kind of stupid at some positions. For example, "stat nerds" for years downgraded relievers for postseason awards when traditional media types and players talked up their value as high leverage guys. Then, WPA becomes a thing and suddenly some stat guys are using that to make cases for someone like Britton for CY a few years back. I just find it stupid that the notion seems to be sometimes "if we can't quantify it, it's bullshit," but then as soon as it becomes something we can quantify we pretend like people have never valued it before and we're on the cutting edge of something.

    I feel the same is kind of true about pitch framing. Former players and media guys talked for years about all these things a catcher does and no one cared. Now all of a sudden we can kind of quantify it and I see all these analysts making a massive deal about it every time a catcher is mentioned. Not saying it's wrong. I just find it odd that it went from hokum to vital as soon as a number could be put on it. It's always been vital. We just weren't always able to tell who was good/bad at it.
     
  23. MG2

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    I watch a lot of MLBN so maybe I'm the only one who cares, but their programming is weird to me right now. They have all these shows for 10-11 months, including the offseason when little is happening, and then they build to the season for the last 4-5 weeks of spring by taking off every show but High Heat and one MLB Tonight and fill the rest with random spring games. I don't get why you wouldn't want your people on the network talking about the upcoming season at this point.
     
  24. b7

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    I was thinking the exact thing this morning. Was looking to watch a studio show while eating breakfast but got Pirates and jays.
     
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  25. MG2

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    Even if you're going to take all the normal stuff off the air for a month, at least do a nightly highlight show (old school SportsCenter style) you can replay in the mornings. Seems like people might actually watch that.
     
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  26. Dr. Richard Cranium

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    I just feel like Bill James was a pretty big part of the early "stat nerd" voice that he is now railing against. I don't have an inventory of his takes from 15 years ago but he was the most influential of the group so he probably had a hand in the collective ignoring of intangible.

    When it comes to the bullpen point, I feel like the high value on guys like Britton is even in the past. It's now "let's just stock our system with guys that throw 100. Maybe a couple can be starters and throw 97 and we will chew up the rest pumping gas out of the pen"
     
  27. theregionsitter

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    Kopech returns today

    :deerstandnotkneel:
     
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  28. Dr. Richard Cranium

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    I was pissed that I got almost no Yelich coverage of his deal due to this. I have my DVR set for MLB Now (didn't air) and MLB tonight was the Yankees 30 clubs in 30 days so they weren't cutting into that for damn sure.
     
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  29. dblplay1212

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    :mulletsmug:
     
  30. MG2

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    I think James might just want to be anti-establishment and now that it's cool to be a stat nerd on TV and Twitter he chooses to go the opposite way frequently for a reaction.

    The numbers definitely say the bullpen use is evolving more into what you're talking about. I'm simply saying I remember Britton being pushed by Brian Kenny for Cy Young that year, and I was confused. If someone said "Britton should be CY because he was great in all those close games and got saves," Kenny would have mocked them. But suddenly WPA is more mainstream at that time, and suddenly Kenny is saying he should win the CY. In reality, they're saying the same thing.
     
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  31. MG2

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    Exactly. There's more stuff happening now than there was during November, January and February when they were doing normal stuff. There's stuff worth talking about and, for some reason, they've decided not to talk about it.

    It's especially weird because before they went to this programming, all the shows were forced to talk about the Astros cheating stuff for weeks. Now there's actually other stuff going on to promote and they're showing Pirates/Tigers live spring training.
     
  32. Willpépé

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    Agreed, it’s not even in my rotation of channels I even put on. There is so much they could do too highlight shows are bare minimum. Twitter has more legit interesting content.

    Top line starters only throw a few innings, show all their pitches. Tell us about what pitchers are throwing a new pitch. Talk about velocity jumps. Hot hitters, great defensive plays. Prospects get spring PAs. Guys who were hurt coming back. Homers, etc....There is so much they can do that's just basic knowledge level stuff without advanced numbers makes zero sense. I get the package too, which means I can watch anything but the Phils, which is fine.

    Last gripe, I really wish I could watch MLB Network via the MLB app.
     
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  33. Dr. Richard Cranium

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    You would think they would make a lot more money off of free streaming of spring training games on MLB.tv ( or like a $10 package) and run normal programming. More people watching spring training games (with adds) and the studio shows.

    Then again, it's basically free programming to play a bunch of Yankees, Cardinals, Boston, and Dodger games with no production costs on their end.
     
  34. ZeroPointZero

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  35. theregionsitter

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  36. Truman

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    Don’t get your hopes up too high.
     
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  37. theregionsitter

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    dawg I’m a Notre Dame/White Sox fan, all we win are offseason championships
     
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  38. Truman

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    You’re like i was after Alex Reyes’ first surgery. Now I’m jaded
     
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  39. Dr. Richard Cranium

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    Two fans in here that have watched their teams in a parade talking about being jaded.
     
  40. Truman

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    I know!

    Everyone knows being a fan of a team that’s won a few World Series means you can’t be jaded about prospect pitchers rebounding after Tommy John.
     
  41. devine

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    This season is gonna be so awesome

     
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  42. Truman

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    Lol @ that twitter acct. :laugh:
     
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  44. Truman

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    The good news is... it's not a brain tumor? I guess.

     
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  45. Rammer Jammer

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    Media aint the only thing about to be affected by the Corona Virus
     
  46. Truman

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    What's the word?
     
  47. JeremyLambsFace

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    What in the world
     
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  48. Truman

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    Saxon is a putz. The Athletic is great, but the Cardinals coverage is meh. Thank goodness for Derek Goold at the Post Dispatch.
     
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  49. Rammer Jammer

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    Possible having games being played elsewhere at the start of the season
     
  50. Rammer Jammer

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