2020 College Football Talk Thread

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  1. Jake Scott

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    I like those rankings a lot.
     
  2. Fusiontegra

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    LSU feels like the leading candidate for winner of the "top-10 to out of the top-25" poll we have every year.

    I have no idea how you could put them at 4 after replacing both coordinators, Burrow, and a slew of defensive players and receivers.
     
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  3. HotMic

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  4. HotMic

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  5. HotMic

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  6. Saul Shabazz

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    16 seems solid considering we havent used LBs since 2013
     
  7. dukebuckeye

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    All 12 of those Wisconsin LBs are the exact same white former walk-on
     
  8. 34

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    Not to defend our LBU status but we are next on the list at 11 drafted. Of those 11 drafted, 18 combined pro bowls which is better than every team ahead on that list save 3

    That said, there’s like 5-6 programs who can make a strong case for LBU for sure
     
  9. HotMic

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  10. Shiggityshwo

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    I guess the DL list is probably UNC's best shot at making one of these, go ahead and do that one next pick six if you don't mind, or even if you do
     
  11. HOOSINSC

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    YAWN let me know when the lists include UDFA.
     
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  12. HotMic

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  13. G46

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    How about players don’t get ejected for targeting at all?
     
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  14. Jake Scott

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    I agree. Once they start getting paid you can fine them, mirite?
     
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  15. HotMic

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  16. Prospector

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    The NFL negotiates for an expanded schedule. The NCAA just does it
    Change in college football moves at a sloth’s pace. In the NFL, that sloth is frozen inside a glacier. If you were born after January 28, 1990, you have lived your entire life in a world where the NFL’s schedule never changes. Every team plays 16 games, and 12 teams make the playoffs. New franchises have joined, and Thursday night became a fixture, but the base numbers haven’t moved.
    That difference isn’t just cultural, either. NFL ownership can’t alter the structure of the league without the agreement of the NFL Players Association, and that agreement usually costs the owners something. College football’s power brokers operate without any similar counterbalance. By refusing to treat players as employees, the NCAA doesn’t just cut the players out of the bulk of the revenue. It also maintains unchecked control over the sport.

    We generally understand why NFL players don’t want to go from 16 to 17 games without getting something substantial in return. College players went from 11 to nearly 13 and didn’t even have a say in the matter, much less any concessions from the NCAA and its member institutions.

    Take the proposed collective bargaining agreement put forth by NFL owners, which expands the schedule for both the regular season and the playoffs significantly. The owners view these games as more television money; the players view them as additional toil in a sport that already extracts plenty of it. If an extra game and an expanded playoff happens, it’ll be after a negotiation where the players have some say in their own future.

    The college football schedule, by comparison, has undergone significant change since 1990, when most Division I-A teams played 11 regular season games without any conference or national championship games. In 2006, the NCAA began permitting schools to add 12th games to the schedule. The decision had its dissenters (including the ACC), but bulldozing past third-party objections is a lot quicker – and cheaper – than bargaining with a labor union. It also lets you say ridiculous shit, like this quote from NCAA President Myles Brand at the time:

    "The season is not being elongated. The 12th game takes up a bye week."

    Schedules grew in other forms, too. The College Football Playoff is the most obvious, but bowl games have more than doubled since 1990, and every FBS conference now plays a championship game.

    When you add them all up, FBS programs in 2019 averaged 12.8 games played. In 1990, that average was nearly a game and a half lower, at 11.4.

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    The same level of expansion NFL owners and the Players Association are about to negotiate over, with major shifts of revenue at stake, just … happened in college football. And the players didn’t get a say in the matter or any additional benefit in return for that extra labor.

    Compound that by the comparative number of players involved, and the problem gets far worse. The NFLPA has about 2,500 active and associate members. Take just the 85 scholarship spots at each of the 130 FBS schools, and you’re talking about more than 11,000 players without representation.

    Plenty of commissions and committees around college football say they care about the well-being of student-athletes. Sometimes they even act that way; It’s not nothing that the ACC voted against a 12th game. Still, even the best-intentioned of these groups don’t directly represent players. If the Playoff expands to eight or 16 teams (or beyond that), or if the NCAA decides 13 games seems better than 12, the primary people affected by those decisions won’t be consulted or reap any of the benefits. (Northwestern athletes attempted to unionize a few years ago, but the National Labor Relations Board shut that effort down and put a major obstacle up against potential unions forming elsewhere.)

    There’s one piece of California’s new law giving student-athletes the right to make money off their own names, images, and likenesses that might change this, though. The law prohibits punishing any athlete for obtaining “professional representation in relation to contracts or legal matters, including, but not limited to, representation provided by athlete agents or legal representation provided by attorneys.”

    If players have agents representing them to potential sponsors, it won’t take long before they start wanting those agents to represent them to their schools and conferences and the NCAA. It’ll be the first time they’ve had any direct representation, after all, and they know that the alternative is to just hope the NCAA does the benevolent thing. The agents will tell them how bad an idea that is, and history will back them up.
     
  17. Jimmy the Saint

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    I put off watching ESPN's CFB 150 thing during the season. I'm really enjoying this.
     
  18. GunBuns

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    Let's not do a flagrant 1/flagrant 2 type system but worry about players being allowed to stay on the field and if someone can wear 0; fuck off.
     
  19. HotMic

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  20. Daddy Rabbit

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    Unless I missed it, I'm surprised there was not a NIL thread or post in here.
     
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    watching 2002 FSU/Miami, FSU fans probably blame the kicker for that but it was an absolute shit snap/hold, straight up finkle
     
  22. PSU12

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  23. HotMic

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    There are some pretty dumb people in the comments.
     
  24. Daddy Rabbit

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  25. billdozer

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    Gonna be a young receiving corp this year

     
  26. Jake Scott

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    If only Clemson had more 5* WR's
     
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  27. Jimmy the Saint

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    Real game changer. This must knock a few tenths of a percentage point off their chances of winning the ACC.
     
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  28. Sir Phobos

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    Fields is like a mortal lock for the Heisman now.
     
  29. Owsley

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    Hopefully this doesn’t impact his career/future earnings. Does anyone know if he’s expected to be cleared/able to resume football next year?
     
  30. billdozer

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  31. Owsley

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    Damn, that fucking sucks
     
  32. Corch

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    Man that sucks.

    He helped make Clemson a lot of money and now his career is over before he can make a cent, just the way coach likes it.
     
  33. Dump

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  34. Daddy Rabbit

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    How does this affect the Bahamas Bowl though?
     
  35. Saul Shabazz

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    Betia was easy to blame for everything

    Didnt help that he took every opportunity to talk about his career goals of kicking a game winner against Miami

    game was Bobby and his drunken mistake of a son's fault though
     
  36. theregionsitter

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    I suspect you see teams turning down bowl invites this year because they can’t light money on fire
     
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  37. southlick

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  38. HotMic

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  39. dblplay1212

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    Bama too high.
     
  40. Corch

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    So we're winning the Natty then, nice.
     
  41. TC

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    Do other fanbases have pics of their players at organized practices or is that just Bama?
     
  42. Thoros of Beer

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    Have to believe there should be an asterisk for any team that wins the national championship or any player that wins the Heisman this season. Just isn't going to be the same.
     
  43. Shiggityshwo

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    Yes sign me up for that asterisk please
     
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  44. IHHH

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    bama will surely claim their 100th national championship after beating the citadel.
     
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  45. ned's head

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    By god, that's A&M's music
     
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  46. HotMic

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  48. GunBuns

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    we had our amazing group of handsome beat reporters stalk our facilities all day to take pictures of players checking into workouts.
     
  49. Mr. Bean

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    Anyone preorder Phil Steele’s mag this year? Usually pick up one of the newsstands to read at the beach but saw it’s only preorder this year and don’t want the CFB season to go up in flames before they’re even sent out :ohdear:
     
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  50. G46

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    Phil.

    I usually buy the digital, haven’t done it yet. I have the Athlon though
     
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